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Old 09-26-2007, 07:16 AM
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I am about ready to cover my 3rd plane. I have
a T.F. Iron and trim iron. I covered my other 2
planes back in the mid 80's with just an Iron.
Will a heat gun make it Easier to cover ??
Thanks for any input.

Bob
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:28 AM
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

you need a heat gun. it will shrink the covering. use the iron to atach to air frame.. Or you could get some nylon covering. dye it the colour you like. use dope to put on frame. then 1 or 2 coats of banana oil. this is no piss take it is like dope but none shrinking and gives a elastic waxy feal to it. a lot stronger then sola tex and sola film..
Old 09-26-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

Opinions vary. I prefer the iron, myself.

If you don't get the covering fitted well, you can shrink it a lot with the heat gun. If you fit the various sections well to begin with, no more than a pass over it with the iron is necessary.

Just my 2¢ worth,
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:33 AM
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

I use one. I generally tack down the perameter with the iron then do a first light pass with the heat gun just to get the wrikles out. I pretty much use the heat gun always on the wing tips, pull and stretch. Cut off the remaining and the trim iron finishes it smooth. It pretty much goes faster doing the general area shrinking on the wings, fuse, stab, and fin. Then I go over the wood contact areas with the iron again. Works for me. Others probably have different ways.
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

i love the heat gun and for me its needed
Old 09-26-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

Once you use a heat gun in conjunction with an iron you will wonder how you ever got along without it.
Old 09-26-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

Agreed. The heat gun is much better for covering wingtips. For me, it is also much better for removing wrinkles that develop from flying or riding in a hot car, etc
Old 09-26-2007, 07:58 AM
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

Works great on shrink tubing also.
Old 09-26-2007, 08:19 AM
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

Also works great to heat epoxy and get it flowing into the smallest of cracks.
Old 09-26-2007, 08:22 AM
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And they make a mean toasted cheese sandwich.... Just watch out for T-pins!!!
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

I once used a heat gun to remove a poor glass job on a swapmeet plane. It was covered with 2oz glass and weighed a ton. Just started at an edge and kept the heat up and slowly pulled it up. Took awhile, but with a little sanding to resurface I was able to salvage a corsair wing with .75oz glass.

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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

ORIGINAL: BarracudaHockey

Once you use a heat gun in conjunction with an iron you will wonder how you ever got along without it.
Very true.

Do you NEED a heat gun? No, but then, you don't NEED a covering iron. A clothes iron would work. But a covering iron does a better job.

Take a look at these videos, especially #4 where I do the wingtips. You'll see how valuable a heat gun can be.

[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=726]Covering Videos[/link]
Old 09-26-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

I think you'll get a whole lot of opinions here that are based on personal technique. Basically it boils down to how you deal with the covering.

I, for one, consider the heat gun next to useless. My iron has never punched a hole in the monokote and makes quick work of the shrinking.

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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

Bob,

In the long run, as others mentioned above, a heat gun is a great tool to have in the shop. I've used mine for all sorts of things.

Personally, I prefer not to use one for covering. I especially wouldn't use one on the wings of the model you have pictured in your original post.

To help prevent warps of an open frame structure, I attach/iron the edges of the covering down as per standard covering practices. Then I gradually tighten the covering with the iron. I set the iron's temperature so that is will slightly shrink the covering, then alternate between the top and the bottom of the wing to tighten both sides evenly. Then I bump the temperature up a bit (~20 degrees) and go back over the wing again. I repeat this several times until I'm happy with the finish.

All said, you could certainly do the same as I do with a heat gun, and many modelers do so very sucessfully. I still like using the iron, though, because it gives me exact control over the shrinking AND I can guarantee that the covering is properly adhered to each rib and stringer.

Good luck, Gary

PS. I have family in Cullowhee - do you know any retired professors from WCU? Perhaps you're one too?
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

I should have added that for many years I used only an iron too. But once I tried a heat gun, I'll never do another covering job without one.
Old 09-26-2007, 10:17 AM
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ORIGINAL: GAP-RCU

Bob,

In the long run, as others mentioned above, a heat gun is a great tool to have in the shop. I've used mine for all sorts of things.

Personally, I prefer not to use one for covering. I especially wouldn't use one on the wings of the model you have pictured in your original post.

To help prevent warps of an open frame structure, I attach/iron the edges of the covering down as per standard covering practices. Then I gradually tighten the covering with the iron. I set the iron's temperature so that is will slightly shrink the covering, then alternate between the top and the bottom of the wing to tighten both sides evenly. Then I bump the temperature up a bit (~20 degrees) and go back over the wing again. I repeat this several times until I'm happy with the finish.

All said, you could certainly do the same as I do with a heat gun, and many modelers do so very sucessfully. I still like using the iron, though, because it gives me exact control over the shrinking AND I can guarantee that the covering is properly adhered to each rib and stringer.

Good luck, Gary

PS. I have family in Cullowhee - do you know any retired professors from WCU? Perhaps you're one too?

Gary

LOL, No i'm just a retired Blue collar guy, my wife has 2 degrees from WCU
and wants that PHD.

Thanks for all the input, I guess i'll put a heat gun in my shop, if
for nothing else, it will re- heat a cup of coffee lol.

Bob
Old 09-26-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

I've been modeling since the early 1970's and have never even considered using a heat gun for doing wing tips. I'm going to give it a try (now that I have seen your video). Thanks for doing a great job with your videos. Ron
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Default RE: Is a Heat Gun really needed ?

Thanks Ron, a lot of people feel that way once they've seen those videos.

In the review I did for the Great Planes Profile-38 I included 3 videos. The first one is pretty basic, but the other two show covering a curve and a compound curve. They are also worth looking at.

Scroll down to the section on covering:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=352
Old 09-26-2007, 11:23 AM
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MinnFlyer


Thanks for the Video link, Great info there.

Bob

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