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Old 03-25-2010, 07:32 PM
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Default SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

Hello, Would a saito 82 power my sig hog bipe at 9 pounds? Not looking for extreme speed, or extreme flight performace. Just enough engine to have fun with it.

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Old 03-25-2010, 07:48 PM
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

Yup it will fly OK

Use a low pitch prop and don't expect a high rate of climb.
Old 03-25-2010, 07:50 PM
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

What do you think the best master airscrew prop would be??
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:11 PM
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

I would go for a bit more power in that bipe mainly because of the drag that bipes have. Your going to be working that 82 hard to fly that plane. If your on a tight budget and the 82 is laying around I say use it, but if you've got the money to buy a new motor I would put a 100, 125a or 150 in it. Remember you can always throttle back. In my opinion its better to have too much power then not enough.
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I would go for a bit more power in that bipe mainly because of the drag that bipes have. Your going to be working that 82 hard to fly that plane. If your on a tight budget and the 82 is laying around I say use it, but if you've got the money to buy a new motor I would put a 100, 125a or 150 in it. Remember you can always throttle back. In my opinion its better to have too much power then not enough.
I agree, a little extra power is good.

I way getting a heavy plane ready to fly and wanted to test props. I used a fish weighing scale on the picnik table to test pull. It worked very well, but crashed the plane twice because it was underpowered for our field. I would try and wave off a landing and it tip stalled in twice. The last one did it in, too bad. I did not have any money in the plane $20, but thats what under powered did to me.


That told me the best pulling power prop, it worked very well.

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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

In my case I like alot of extra power haha. Im rebuilding my CG Ultimate for a Saito FG 36, and when its done im putting an fg36 in my CG Extra 300s both call for a 120 max
Old 03-25-2010, 08:54 PM
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

I had a YS.91 in my Sig Hog bipe and it was more than enough, pulled it along very strong with good vertical climb.
Flew well at 1/2 throttle so the .82 will fly it okay, but if you don't have an engine yet, the .91 will fly it better.
I feel anything more than a .91 is a wast of money unless you are looking for extreme, and you said you were not.

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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

Ok thanks guys. I did fiberglass the fuselage, and sheet. Would I wona make an engine change because of that???
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Hello, Would a saito 82 power my sig hog bipe at 9 pounds? Not looking for extreme speed, or extreme flight performace. Just enough engine to have fun with it.

Thanks


I have a 82 on my Astro Hog, there are days when I
wish I had more power. She's still flying.

Bob
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

Most of the hog bipes I have seen and flown were using the OS .91 FS and it was a great combo. I do question the weight of your plane, that must have been a lot of glassing?? The Saito will fly it though, how well???? Try it and see what you think. I have an old GP Aeromaster that I built and installed a .68 two stroke, I thought the plane was a total dog. Then I stuck a two stroke .91 in it and the plane came alive, there is a big difference between flying the plane and flying it like it was alive. The Hog is a great little airplane but it needs some power to show what it was designed to do.
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In my case I like alot of extra power haha. Im rebuilding my CG Ultimate for a Saito FG 36, and when its done im putting an fg36 in my CG Extra 300s both call for a 120 max
I don't think your .36 would get my CG Extra off the ground. Please post up how well it does. As built stock to the plans the CG Extra is a bit on the heavy side, one of the reasons it's so smooth in the air. I will argue it's the best flying Extra in it's size though, good luck to you.
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I don't think your .36 would get my CG Extra off the ground. Please post up how well it does. As built stock to the plans the CG Extra is a bit on the heavy side, one of the reasons it's so smooth in the air. I will argue it's the best flying Extra in it's size though, good luck to you.
Wow your CG 300 must be a beast.
The FG36 is comparable to the Saito FA220, thats a whole lotta power for that plane IMO
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

LargeScale88: I have two Hog Bipes...!! And I love both of them. I also like power and therefore placed a Saito 100 in each plane. I wanted to make sure the plane would do what I wanted it to, when I told it to do something. I think it's a wonderful combination and will probably never change the setup. I run Master Airscrew 13X6 / 13x8 / 14x6 and have even put APC 13x6 and 13x8s on those engines and they are a trip!!
Have you already purchased the Saito 82? If so, as the other guys have said, give it a try. But I think you'll be wanting for more authority in time.
Here are my two love-birds: OK - Sorry, I guess I don't know how to up-load photos. I'll figure it out this morning and send them on in this thread. Mike [8D] [img][/img] [img][/img]
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!


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What do you think the best master airscrew prop would be??
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K series 14 x 4 would be my starting point. I think the 82 will swing a 15x4 as well if you have a noise problem.
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

[img][/img][img][/img] OK, I think I have it right now.
Just because both planes are Hog-Bipes and both have the same engine doesn't mean they fly the same. This one (verses the red & white bipe) flys much more agressivly. I believe I'll end up keeping both of them for ever!!

Have fun!!
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Old 03-26-2010, 07:51 AM
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

No noise problem. And I have not ordered the saito 82 yet. Mikie 1: What will the plane do with that saito 100 in terms of "stunts" and "aerobatics"???
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

At9 lbs she a little heavy , I would use a Saito 1.00 just to save the weight, also the power well come in handy. Are there any places you could lose some weight ? micro servo on the throttle, lite wheels, smaller battery ?
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

Ive got a micro servo for throttle, dubro lite tread wheels, and lite covering on the wing. So I cant go much lower in weight.
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

Here's mine with a Saito 100 and APC 15x6, Flies great.
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Old 03-26-2010, 09:09 AM
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

Nice looking bipe. How does your saito 100 run?
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!


ORIGINAL: Mikie 1

[img][/img][img][/img] OK, I think I have it right now.
Just because both planes are Hog-Bipes and both have the same engine doesn't mean they fly the same. This one (verses the red & white bipe) flys much more agressivly. I believe I'll end up keeping both of them for ever!!

Have fun!!

Very nice cover job Mike, . I am about to re-cover one of my planes, how do you do the yellow between the black and red, did you just layer?

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Nice looking bipe. How does your saito 100 run?
Thanks,
My Saito 100 runs VERY strong. Actually it is overkill for the Hog bipe, but you can always throttle back. I used the 100 because I just happen to have one at the time. A .91 four stroke is plenty. Your .82 will fly it, but I agree with the others. I think it will be marginal.

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I don't think your .36 would get my CG Extra off the ground. Please post up how well it does. As built stock to the plans the CG Extra is a bit on the heavy side, one of the reasons it's so smooth in the air. I will argue it's the best flying Extra in it's size though, good luck to you.
Wow your CG 300 must be a beast.
The FG36 is comparable to the Saito FA220, thats a whole lotta power for that plane IMO
My brain ART, I read it but my brain was saying .36. My next CG Extra is getting my old RCS 1.40 and the old one I still have is using the YS 1.20
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

I have a Hog Bipe with an OS .91 4-stroker and she flys well. If I had to do it again though, I'd go with the Saito 1.00
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Default RE: SAITO 82 power of 9 pound hog bipe!

And Someone said that the bipes have alot of drag on them, which may cause some problems???????????????

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