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Goran619 09-29-2011 02:40 PM

Servo screws
 


What methods can be used to secure the servo screws into the servo tray? Ijust maidened my P-47 yesterday and after I took it apart today to make sure everything was tight still I found 4 servo screws on 2 different servos had came loose and fell out. I did put a few drops in the threads but that obviously didn't make a difference. Ialso had all the cowl screws come loose and 1 fall out, a guy at my fieldtold me to put silicone on them to keep them in place. so do Ijust put this on the threads and then screw them in? Ineed to find ways too hold the screws in place from the vibration of a DLE20. Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
Jordan</p>

DMcQuinn 09-29-2011 03:21 PM

RE: Servo screws
 
Do secure the screws with some threadlocker (or silicone). Also check your propeller. If it is out of balance, this will exacerbate the problem.

Goran619 09-29-2011 04:03 PM

RE: Servo screws
 
does threadlocker hold screws into wood?
Jordan

BalsaBob 09-29-2011 04:45 PM

RE: Servo screws
 
No, do not use threadlocker. I always use a drop of medium CA (Zap a Gap).

Bob

Gray Beard 09-29-2011 06:07 PM

RE: Servo screws
 
I get my screws from Micro Fastener, hex head screws. I pre-drill the holes under size, thread the screws in then back out. Add a drop or two of thin CA then let it set up. Now install the servos and tighten them down good.

KW_Counter 09-29-2011 07:51 PM

RE: Servo screws
 
I follow Gray Beard's procedures.
KW_Counter

Arrow IV 09-29-2011 08:10 PM

RE: Servo screws
 


ORIGINAL: Gray Beard

I get my screws from Micro Fastener, hex head screws. I pre-drill the holes under size, thread the screws in then back out. Add a drop or two of thin CA then let it set up. Now install the servos and tighten them down good.

Gray Beard's got the goods! I do exactly what he does then I add a drop to each screw and drive them home, never had one come out yet (knock on balsa...) Every once in a while the rubber grommet gets glued too, but small price to pay to make sure your servos stay on the job. Metal to metal ALWAYS needs thread locker of some sort, if at all possible, run with nylon lined nuts (but not both), they are Gump proof!

jester_s1 09-29-2011 10:40 PM

RE: Servo screws
 
If you'll put a drop of thin CA into a threaded hole and let it cure, you'll get hardened threads that will hold the screw well. The wood swells a bit too so it'll be vibration resistant but removable.

jbdismukes 09-30-2011 03:22 AM

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BarracudaHockey 09-30-2011 04:25 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
As for the cowl, go to JR Hobby Hardware and order a bag of sealing washers. They are the bomb diggity for holding cowls without loosening or hurting the cowl.

K-Bob 09-30-2011 04:33 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
Or these #4 stainless bonded washers

http://www.microfasteners.com/catalo...ts/WASFWRB.cfm


carrellh 09-30-2011 05:16 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
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Sometimes the servo tray is made out of poor wood. In those cases a 'doubler' can give the screws something to grab better.

BarracudaHockey 09-30-2011 06:07 AM

RE: Servo screws
 


ORIGINAL: K-Bob

Or these #4 stainless bonded washers

http://www.microfasteners.com/catalo...ts/WASFWRB.cfm


Same thing, same price.

http://www.jrhobbyhardware.com/shop/...roducts_id=280

Edwin 09-30-2011 06:22 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
For the cowl, I counter sink some 1/4" to 3/8" pieces of nyrod into hardwood mounts and glue them in with CA. The screws are screwed into the nyrod. They wont come out that way.
Edwin

MinnFlyer 09-30-2011 06:24 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
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The best way I have found to keep cowl (or canopy) screws from coming out is to enlarge the hole in the block to 1/8" and glue a piece of nyrod tubing into it. make the tubing a little longer than the block to be sure it is fully glued in place. You'll need to tap it in with a hammer. Then enlarge the hole to 5/64".

Now a #2 screw (standard servo size) will screw into the nyrod and will never vibrate loose!

MinnFlyer 09-30-2011 06:26 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
Ooops. Edwin beat me to it :D

Edwin 09-30-2011 06:27 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
Great minds think alike.:) What can I say, it works. Picked it up from an old timer many years back.
Edwin

MinnFlyer 09-30-2011 06:33 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
Yes, but I DO recommend making the tubing as long as possible and enlarging the hole. The standard hole is ok, but a bit tight and the last thing you want is to have the nyrod break loose. If it does, it's a bear to get out!

Goran619 09-30-2011 07:00 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
Where can you pick up nyrod tube? Are there differnt size tubes? And do you make it flush with the cowl block? Thanks for all the advice I appreciate it thank you.
Jordan

carrellh 09-30-2011 07:45 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
It is the "inner" rod of something like Sullivan Gold-N-Rods http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFU91&P=0
This pair wouldd probably give a lifetime supply to multiple people.

kochj 09-30-2011 08:25 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
Use Dubro socket head servo head stews. This will stop the cheap servo screws
From having the heads strip and or the driver slipping and Puting a hole in your new plane.

You can pick up those neopreme backed washers at any hardware store..

cloudancer03 09-30-2011 09:04 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
I go back and forth .sometimes depending on the size of the screw I use medium ca.and other times I insert a piece of yellow nyrod and screw into it.both work exyremely well.

on_your_six 09-30-2011 10:53 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
Is everyone missing the obvious??? The cause is vibration... you need to check and see what is so out of balance... did you balance your prop? what about the spinner? These two things can shake a plane to pieces.



ORIGINAL: Goran619



What methods can be used to secure the servo screws into the servo tray? I just maidened my P-47 yesterday and after I took it apart today to make sure everything was tight still I found 4 servo screws on 2 different servos had came loose and fell out. I did put a few drops in the threads but that obviously didn't make a difference. I also had all the cowl screws come loose and 1 fall out, a guy at my fieldtold me to put silicone on them to keep them in place. so do I just put this on the threads and then screw them in? I need to find ways too hold the screws in place from the vibration of a DLE 20. Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
Jordan</p>

MinnFlyer 09-30-2011 11:00 AM

RE: Servo screws
 
No matter what you do, you still have a piston moving up and down.

Gray Beard 09-30-2011 11:09 AM

RE: Servo screws
 


ORIGINAL: carrellh

Sometimes the servo tray is made out of poor wood. In those cases a 'doubler' can give the screws something to grab better.
This just hit me this morning. I epoxy a 1/8 piece of aircraft ply on the bottom or back of the area the screws are going to go through. Most servo trays that are supplied are just 1/8 thick and don't hold well. I also use the nyrod in a lot of places, good stuff. I use the nyrod for the throttle on gas powered planes too so I always have it on hand.


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