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SeamusG 03-15-2012 11:59 AM

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You use your long winters brilliantly!

Thx for sharing.

Jaybird 03-15-2012 12:07 PM

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The larger SE5a is an old Top Flite Dave Platt series plane that has come back to me after a crash that split the fuselage in half several years ago. I had put so much work into it and a sister ship that crashed a few years before that, that I gave gave both hulks to a club member about three or four years ago. Last fall I inquired about his restoration efforts and he said that he'd glued the broken fuselage one back together, but the covering was still split and he'd stopped working on them. I told him I'd be interested in buying them both back but he said I could just have them since I gave them to him. The one with the broken fuselage was built by another modeler so I took it to him to see if he could patch up the Sig Koverall and match the paint which he did superbly. It's had one very scary test flight back in the winter when we had a warm spell but hasn't flown since. The other one that I built is missing the entire lower wing and landing gear assembly plus the front end and strut damage.


The smaller one is the new ParkZone SE5 and is a fun flying little plane. I took it Rhinebeck for the Jamboree this past year. The larger 1/6 scale wasn't ready at that time

Jaybird

j.duncker 03-15-2012 02:08 PM

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Well when I was flying pylon and slope combat with Zagis and turbine powered Starfighter I also had a 1/4 scale Stampe.

Boy o boy that thing was fun to fly. Get the scale style take off right with the tail wheel up and just enough power to get her moving throgh the grass, 10 minutes of biplane stlye aerobatics again with just enough power to get her over the top and then a side slip approach with full rudder and crossed ailerons in to landing with the 4 st burbling away.

I guess the big difference for me was in getting the flight to be realistic. A slow roll with the Starfighter would be done at 150+ mph and the nose would not move if I got it right, with the Stampe I would be doing it at maybe 20 mph at 1/3 throttle and the nose would move lots as I tried to keep her flying along the same imaginary wire in the sky.

Great fun

Jaybird 03-16-2012 05:14 AM

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Your Stampe is a beautiful plane. There have been a couple of very large ones at the Old Rhinebeck Jamboree the last few years. They were gorgeous on the ground and in the air. The very large white and blue one was electric with a reduction drive which gave it a realistic "engine" sound.

I flew my 1/6 scale Concept Fleet M2 last night with a "new" OS 42 four stroke in place of the OS 46 two stroke and it was fabulous. Just the right speed and sound and lots of power.

Jaybird

LesUyeda 03-16-2012 06:22 AM

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"Your Stampe is a beautiful plane"

I built a 1/4 Scale Svenson model of that thing once. The squadron marking was a penguin on the tail. Belgium markings I believe. Flew absolutely great. One of the guys was driving into the field when I did a loop, and later told me that at the top of the loop, he was holding his breath, waiting for it to go over the top. The thing was sooooo draggy, that at full throttle, it flew the same speed straight down, as it did in level flight:-))))))))))))))

Les

Jaybird 03-16-2012 06:27 AM

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Bigger does fly better! Sounds like a lot of fun.

Check out page two of this thread, post #43 for a great slow motion 1/2 scale Neiuport.

I keep looking at the Great Planes WACO arf....hmmm

Jaybird

j.duncker 03-16-2012 08:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: LesUyeda

''Your Stampe is a beautiful plane''

I built a 1/4 Scale Svenson model of that thing once. The squadron marking was a penguin on the tail. Belgium markings I believe. Flew absolutely great. One of the guys was driving into the field when I did a loop, and later told me that at the top of the loop, he was holding his breath, waiting for it to go over the top. The thing was sooooo draggy, that at full throttle, it flew the same speed straight down, as it did in level flight:-))))))))))))))

Les
Les Manchots used a penquin on the tail. This team, which flew with two Stampe SV-4b biplanes, was formed in 1965 using two instructors from the Elementary Flying Training School of the Belgian Air Force. Their first display was at the international air meeting in Brustem in 1965. In 1967, the team formally received its name "Manchots" (from French - Penguins). The team existed until 1970, also displaying around Europe in Germany, United Kingdom, France, Italy and the Netherlands.

Mine was finished in the colours of one of the Stampes used by the team.

Their signature manouvre was to fly around with one aircraft flying inverted just above the other.

Jaybird 03-16-2012 08:58 AM

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I love how they are flying in a "V" formation to maintain their respective angle of attack. The inverted one really shows much forward stick was required to maintain level flight .

Thanks for sharing.

Rhinebeck has a full size Stampe in their collection as well which one of the models is painted to represent.

Jaybird

LesUyeda 03-17-2012 06:11 AM

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j.duncker

That's it exactly, almost. The color scheme, wing and tail flash IS identical, but mine had the front cockpit included in the canopy. I still have the 2, 1/4 scale DGA pilots I made for it.

Les

LesUyeda 03-17-2012 06:24 AM

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Here it is:-))))))))))))

Les

almost. I'l learn how to use this new system and computer someday. I did not intend to include the p-40:-((((((((((((((

Jaybird 03-17-2012 04:01 PM

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We had a fantastic day up here in Maine with a good group at the KVMA field. Got in three flights with my Concept Fleet with the new OS 48 four stroke and a successful second test flight on the SE5a with a scale landing to boot (nose over). I even have a sunburn...one side of my face...amazing for the middle of March around here.

Here is picture of my Fleet in the air. No pictures of the SE5a test flight...darn.

Jaybird

Gray Beard 03-18-2012 10:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: LesUyeda

Here it is:-))))))))))))

Les

almost. I'l learn how to use this new system and computer someday. I did not intend to include the p-40:-((((((((((((((
Nice Les, Very nice!!!! Looks like something I would like to fly!!!!!

LesUyeda 03-19-2012 06:20 AM

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"Nice Les, Very nice!!!! Looks like something I would like to fly!!!!! "

Thanks. It was quite an experience. Problem, was every time I tried to lift it over our fence, I punched ANOTHER hole in the wing:-(((((((((((((((((

Les

Jaybird 03-23-2012 05:49 AM

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Heading to Owls Head Transportation Museum near Rockland , Maine for the third annual Model Festival with my SE5a, Fleet and Super Skybolt to show a historical timelime of biplane development.


Jaybird

Jaybird 04-06-2012 05:52 AM

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Here is a set of videos that show the variety of craftsmen and women who were displaying their work and some of the demontrations.

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycTjeSaaPu8

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRC1G...feature=relmfu

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdoW...feature=relmfu

Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9bP...feature=relmfu

Jaybird


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