Seems like JR is done
 

We had our swap meet yesterday where some one said JR was done in the RC business.
There are some statements that seem to back that up on their site. Plus on a site from RC Japan, which I assume is a distributor.
Also heard that Horizon was not carrying their products anymore, but there are still some JR products listed.
Anyone have more info?

What statements did you read on their website ?
http://www.jramericas.com/

Did you check to see for yourself if Horizon is selling JR ?
http://www.horizonhobby.com/category/airplanes/aircraft-radio-systems/aircraft-transmitters


My version of the short story is that JR and Spektrum had a working relationship and both products were mostly cross- compatible. A few years ago they had a minor falling out and now the new JR radios are no longer compatible with Spektrum gear.

I did read a post from the rc japan facebook site that they won't be selling jr any longer due to delivery issues.

You have to get your information from the horses mouth, not from hear say and internet chats. JR has stated that they are moving their RC product manufacturing to Malaysia where costs are lower. There will be a short period of low supply until they are up to speed in the new facility. Nowhere in the press release did they mention stopping producing JR radios. The Japan facility will close (has closed). JR will be concentrating on the "industrial helicopter" market but states that they are still committed to the RC Hobby business. All this is from an "Official Post and Private Communication" dated August 28, 2016 from Japan Remote Control Co.,Ltd.
You can get all the JR equipment you want from jramericas.com

Seems that some didn't read my entire post
all I'm doing is asking a question to see if someone has more info than the statements posted on a couple of sites.

I have to agree with you Jetmech. Many, including myself on some occasions, will flash through an article and only catch the hot words. I certainly hope JR stands behind thier comments. They mentioned that the RC business is decreasing. I suspect that Spectrum is taking a big bite. I have always been a JR advocate ever since my boating days in the 70's and 80's when my Futaba transmitter literally began falling apart.

I just read a post that sounded like they (JR) wasn't going to be working with Horizon....it was DATED 2006!!! That's like ten years old...so watch the dates on some of those threads. I just talked to JR about their 14x and gave no indication there was anything going on with JR America......just might pick one of those tx up!

Times are tough for all in the hobby business. JR Japan is moving to Malaysia. They have stopped working on their helicopter line for now and working on industrial applications. They are still supporting their current line of radios, servos and receivers. Yes there was/is a small delay with some products as moving to a new facility, production, shipping and customs. If anyone has question call JR Americas and ask them do not believe what someone says on the net. Some of these people may have other motives by bashing JR to promote something else.

Again someone didn't read my post very well. I never said I read on the net that JR was done.
I also said that there were JR products still listed on Horizons site.
This is why I asked if anyone had more info. So before I'm told about rumors how about reading the entire post.

jetmech lol a little angry???

Why do you keep chastising people claiming they never read your original post ?

I believe we all read your post:

Wow no not angry at all. Must have twanged a few nerves.
There is a 24 page post on another site all about this very subject. There I found the more info I was asking about here.

Jetmech; Par for the course on RC Universe; even when people read the entire post will reply with something not relevant or non contributory; I read your entire post and what I got from it was that you had heard stuff and just wanted confirmation or additional information in support or against, you were not stating a fact just looking for info, hard to get sometimes on RCU

Exactly and thank you dasintex. I'd hate to see JR go it is not good for any of us in the hobby.

+1 If they in fact go out of business, what happens to the repair of their transmitters and RX/s?
Somebody has to repair these radio systems sometimes? Who? Will it be Spektrum or JR? JR america?? Any info?

Is radio south still in business? They do repairs.
At no time is a monopoly good for the consumer. The fewer the choices a consumer has the higher the price will be

monopoly?

This is why RC universe has been in decline in my opinion, people are always bashing others for not being a expert on everything which in there own opinion They do know everything! And how dare you show a little ignorance or get the facts wrong, RC universe used to be a place where you could ask questions and get good advice from experienced modelers.

Deal that is correct and many spew claims about this or that and are way wrong lol problem is the guy asking the question think that guy answered his question only to still have issues.

Jetmech monopoly ? who has one?

No one has a monopoly. But there are only three giant radio manufactures. Loose one and we are closer to a monopoly. Which is not good for the consumer.

Airtronics going the same way also. (see thread in radio forum) looks like Spectrum and Futaba have succeeded in crushing the competition. :(

Everyone would hate to see another manufacturer leave the market, but raise your hand if you have bought a JR radio in the last few years. It is probably really hard to sell a lot without a distributor such as they had with Horizon. I just took the batteries out of 3 JR radios on 72 MHz. They were really nice radios....never one problem or glitch. But after decades of frequency issues, going to 2.4 was too good to be true. The only problem I ever had with a Spektrum was the rotary wheel on an early DX6i. Horizon fixed it outside the warranty, did a gimbal upgrade and sent back for $0.

If you have been in the hobby a long time, remember Kraft, Proline, PCS, Orbit, EK, citizenship, RS, Ace, Royal, MRC, and the list of ex radio manufacturers goes on and on

I have no way of knowing, but I bet Spektrum has taken a big clunk out of Futaba too. The E-Flite BNF airplanes, helicopters and drones are everywhere.

This has nothing to do with Spektrum or Futaba. Without disclosing any confidential information, if they do go down it's self inflicted and has nothing to do with any other company.

Holy innuendo Batman.. LOL

Jetmech have you ever had an economic class lol?
The model airplane hobby market is down big time and going down. horizon is not selling what they used to also. Us old guys that have been flying for a long are not getting replaced, new people to RC are flying multi-copters and those of old guys sticking around are buying stuff from china.

Wouldn't surprise me at all. There is a history of Ludditism in the RC community. Radio wise, the big brands forward-looking innovation-strategies where totally eclipsed by Spectrum years ago. Incredible how that brand is still frowned upon in certain communities, pattern for example. Since then, the drone & quad communities have completely reinvented what the 21st century RC set needs to deliver. Any takers in the other sectors? Basically non...only a head in the sand attitude to the technology and a smirk when one suggests they should check them out because they WAYYYY better the the pro futaba/jr set I've owned.

I year back I posted a quick report about the Spectrum AS3X multi gyro axis receiver in the Pattern community. The receiver technology is usually used in tiny micro foamies, softening out turbulence and making the light weight aircraft have a far greater feeling of mass. Quite extraordinary in fact. I slotted one into a small 1m Pattern aircraft and was shocked by 1: how much bigger the aircraft felt in the sky, it was just like adding physical scale and kg's to the model and 2: How the onboard mixing generated by the receiver was simply stunning, making the necessity for 100s of trimming flights a thing of the past and 3: how the graphic interface between the iPhone and the aircraft for setting up every possible variable was superb! Better by miles than anything thought up by Futaba or JR. The response back from the pattern community was post after post of ridicule, laughter, insults all based on one fact, gyros aren't allowed in competition. Of course I knew this and stated the same in the opening paragraph but urged the community to see what is happening in tech-land... the writing was on the wall in my humble opinion. Not F'in' interested was the reply. Pathetic.
And it isn't just radios;-)

IMO, Futaba, JR and Co, have far to complacent, way to cocky and delivered far too little, far too late.
Why use 20th century technology and mindset in the 21century?
Lucky for them, they still have a miniscule following of Luddites... so they'll be able to sell a couple of sets over the next year.

I just don't understand the drone and quad phase, I've flown them and messed around with them and find them flat out boring, I also don't care much for all the electric planes, everything every review weather by magazine or a website, they always use electric motors in there reviews, never glow, sometimes gas power but not often, electric puts me to sleep, and I'm tired of the hobby industry trying to shove it down are throats!
Im not bashing those that like electrics better, doesn't bother me at all, it all just reminds me of the motocross industry back in 2002 when the bike manufacturers started forcing four stroke race bikes on us racers, it hurt the racing scene for the amature riders, the four strokes were just so exspensive to buy and maintain, a lot of us couldn't keep racing competitively because we couldn't afford it any longer.

All that was done so the manufacturers could have larger profit margins, and it's no different in the RC world.

Yeah I am the same the industry pushed electrics because it made them a great deal of money, then the foamies came in and made them even more money. Now there are some cool planes in foam but i miss the good ole days of RC. Look at the magazines in the early 90s then look today and see a big difference

Well, I was an AMA officer in the other AMA in California at the time,,
That had more to do with California AQMD/EPA rules that made it impossible to sell 2 strokes in California for general offroad (green sticker) use than Manufactures profits directly,, 2 strokes were to become "closed coarse only" bikes,,, Shoot many 4 strokes became "track only" bikes too. They have to race on Sunday what they want to sell on Monday,, right?

Manufactures and shops sell what sells,, stuff that doesn't sell well fades away,, it just is.

Yes it's the way things are for sure, has California law eased up on 2 strokes ? There getting more and more popular again, I'll admit I have 4 four stroke dirt bikes in my garage and only one 2 stroke, but hey I'm old now as far as motocross age goes, my racing days are long gone.

Not likely,, the AQMD/EPA never softens rules,, and the riders have just got used to 4 strokes.. Smokers are a thing of the past I think,,

Yeap, I never raced,, Dual Sport is my thing

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2194961

So what's that got to do with my economics class?
you can't believe that a monopoly is good for anyone. Less competition or no competition whom ever is left can set the price where they want.

just because they might be the last company making radios in the future doesnt mean they are a monopoly lol, There are no entry barriers set by this company, no government restricting entry in to making a new brand and so on. There isnt a large demand for ALL radios out there.

I picked up a new JRX9303 2.4 in 2008 and it has been a great TX. The programing was hard, but I was able to do all I wanted to. When I decided to get a new TX , as the 9303 was not getting along with some of the new Spektrum RX's I went with Spektrum for my new TX as bind and fly is a way of life for me.

Nope there is nothing stopping anyone from making a new and or better radio. But they have to have market share to have an influence though.
I see you're team JR. Thank you for living up to my expectations of a radio sponsored team individual JR or Futaba.
like I said I don't want to see this happen, I hope it isn't true.
by the way if you're the only one you have a monopoly.
if you have 99% of market share you have a monopoly any other company or companies need to get big enough to have an influence on the market.
all this thread is, is a question and or a confirmation or denial of information that's out there.
it was not meant to insult anyone.

Jetmech I am so glad as a sponsored pilot I can live up to your expectations. Thank you that is awesome.

And I too hope JR stays!!!!

I gotta wonder what JR thinks of how you are representing them and interacting with customers,,,

Are you implying that as a Team JR member that Jeff should be held to a higher standard than your average sport pilot? I find it very ironic that you would be lecturing people on how to interact with others. I have been flying with Jeff for close to a decade, always a class act.

scale 4 me in your opinion how should I act then? Jetmech said as a team member I lived up to his expectations and I said thank you...