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masonman 02-09-2007 01:48 AM

9 CAP vs 9 VAP
 
I have a 9cap tx. What does the 9V tx do that my 9C won"t. I'm all time being told that the 9V would have been a better radio. The one i have now does everything i could ever need....................

Geistware 02-09-2007 08:51 AM

RE: 9 CAP vs 9 VAP
 
I looked and could not find a 9V are you talking about the 9Z WC2 ?
The two things that I know that the 9Z has over the 9C is that the 9Z has flight modes and removable antenna which the 9C does not.

firstplaceaviator 02-09-2007 08:56 AM

RE: 9 CAP vs 9 VAP
 
The 9VAP is an antique. Futaba does not support them anymore. If it were to break, that's it...You are buying a new radio.
Your 9CAP is a more capable than the old 9V was...There were 2 things the 9V could do that a 9C can't. first, you could buy an optional tach that plugged into the Tx and read out was on the screen. second, you could adjust the angle of each stick.
The 9c has twice the programming features of the 9V. For helicopter programming the 9C is fantastic. CCPM had not even been invented when the 9V was being produced! It only has very basic helicopter functions.
The 9V was a great radio in it's day. But, it is so old that it had mechanical sliders for trim and pots in the radio for sub-trims... Whoever is telling you the 9V is superior to the 9C is wrong... I mean geez! It's from like 1990!!!
Doug

TopThumbs 02-09-2007 09:23 AM

RE: 9 CAP vs 9 VAP
 
I've owned my 9V since new and has never failed me. Something about "mechanical sliders" that turn me on. Something about mechanical pots that turn me on and the tach?
it's built in. there is a little sensor on the side of the radio :D

I use my direct servo connect all the time (check operation without transmitting)

This radio is still a marvel of technology IMHO. It's one reason why just the transmitters collect more than $150 on the used market ;)

It's heavy, it feels solid, has 4 model memory with all the features a rc plane pilot would ever want, again IMO ;)

I'm not familier with the 9C so I cant compare but dont count out the 9V simply because it's not plastic and new.

Bill

side note:
I would say that a '63 vette is superior to a '07 vette... but that's just me :D

firstplaceaviator 02-09-2007 10:05 AM

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Top Thumbs,
Don't get me wrong. I think the 9V is a great radio. I like a heavy well built Tx. The 9V feels just "right" when you hold it.
My biggest complaint about Futaba radios today is the cheezy plastic cases.
If you accidently get glow fuel or even exhaust on them. The metallic coating starts coming off.
I don't understand why a $1000.00+ radio wouldn't have a lightweight aluminum case.
The programming in the 9V just can't compare to todays offerings. I don't like trim sliders. They are to easy to bump and inadvertantly change your trims.

My problem is that new technology turns me on, and I'm old school as well.
My ideal Vette would be a 67 body, perfectly grafted to an 07 chassis and drivetrain, 1000+ HP with a big old rumbling exhaust, and without the black box!
Doug

TopThumbs 02-09-2007 10:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: firstplaceaviator

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My ideal Vette would be a 67 body, perfectly grafted to an 07 chassis and drivetrain, 1000+ HP with a big old rumbling exhaust, and without the black box!
Doug

You sir are my new best friend [8D]

Back in the day, if you look at some of the older Futaba higher end radios, they are all heavy, boxy and of quality construction. The heavy aluminum "coating" LOL doesnt come off when fuel vapor drifts by [X(] *kidding of course*

I think the new radios with thier plastic bodies and sleek designs crammed packed with electronics and gadgets fit a large market and are well received by most new flyers.

What I like about the "old" trims are that I can see at a glance where they are, I can touch them as a refferance to how my trim is, and it's mechanical... just one less thing to worry about.
in agreement with you I have "bumped" my trims many times, usually throttle for some reason :eek: so you have a score there.

I'm not sure of the programming aspect but will probably agree with you that newer radios will, by default, have superior programming as far as software and such. I just like to "feel" what I am doing sometimes - ya know?

I lost my 9VAP in a move and I went into a panic for months. really - this radio has become a part of my existance and I just knew I would have to "progress" into the new technology and buy a new computer radio. I'm really not sure why either - I dont fly Heli's and I usually don't use more than 5-6 channels and rarely use mixing. I do use dual rates, model memory and like the trim pots :D. It's just an old comfortable brother, we've been through a lot in the last 15 or so years, fires (yes it caught fire when I charged it with black wire disease and survived), fuel dumpings, drops and banges, I even found it under my kids bed once covered in cheese powder from cheezetts and koolaid [:@]

oh, by the way - the wife found it in it's case stuck in the eves of the house, how it got there I'll never know.

I know, someday I'll have to bury my blanket and move on but untill then... go fast and turn left!

Bill

firstplaceaviator 02-09-2007 11:06 AM

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masonman 02-09-2007 11:13 AM

RE: 9 CAP vs 9 VAP
 
I meant the 9z sorry

firstplaceaviator 02-09-2007 11:48 AM

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Masonman,
Now youv'e changed everthing! Yes, the 9Z has a few options that the 9C does not.
It took me several years to use my 9CHP to it's fullest extent, and I am still very happy with it.
A 9Z won't make you a better pilot than a 9C will...
I don't think the few features of the 9Z vs. the 9C warrant buying a used or OOP radio.
I would go with the new 12FG before I bought a 9Z.
Doug

masonman 02-09-2007 06:35 PM

RE: 9 CAP vs 9 VAP
 
Wow another 12 ch.Radio. It that one a step up from the 12z you see in the tower book?..........I'm not saying the 9Z would make me a better pilot, Just alot of people told me the money i spent on my 9c i could have bought a 9z......But i couldn't be happier with what i have, Its the best radio i have ever owned.I think there are alot of people who rely on mixes to do some of the cool stuff they do with there plane. I use mixes, But not for arobatics

firstplaceaviator 02-09-2007 07:13 PM

RE: 9 CAP vs 9 VAP
 
Actually, the 12FG is one step below the 12Z and it is exactly what I have been waiting for. The rumors are flying about this new radio. It is not available in the US yet.
Here is a thread on it: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_53...tm.htm#5378779

masonman 02-09-2007 07:26 PM

RE: 9 CAP vs 9 VAP
 
Wow i hope its under a grand. It seems like there is a huge jump from the 9ch to the 12ch in price. I don't see how the extra 2 chs cam be so much. I know it has other stuff, But still. Take that 52inch plasma screen off of it an some of us everyday guy may be able to aford it

firstplaceaviator 02-09-2007 07:45 PM

RE: 9 CAP vs 9 VAP
 
masonman,
would you mind posting that in the forum that I supplied the link for?
Since Krysta Hunt (Product Development & Support Specialist, Futaba Service Center USA) is watching that forum.
The more people that inquire about it, the more likely they are to release it in the US.
Thaks,
Doug

masonman 02-09-2007 10:36 PM

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Wrong forum or what???????????I thought we were talking about in this one........Must have been wrong


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