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my plan is to set up controls on hamradio 10meter band use hamradio tv to transmit video i have both 10meter and 440 beams to transmit and recive on a 100ft tower looking for 4ch transmitter and reciver what should i use and could i put a female adapter on the transmitter to hook it up to the beem i did want to keep the plane all electric but i decide that gas would be best due to the battery requirements of the tv transmitter give me all thoughts on this keep in mind that this should be done as cheaply as possibly which i know will be alot anyway Thanks

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With standard radio equipment if you can see the plane it is within range.

Also, you might want to check in to video equipment made for RC apps. I think it will be a lot more practical than what you are trying to do.

Do you have experience flying a RC model?

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Have you ever thought about using punctuation? It would make it a lot easier to read your post and help you out.

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The FAA has rules about UAV/RPVs, also.

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I only had a few small planes that were all junk. The video transmitter Is for rc and it runs on a 9 volt battery, it just transmitts on tv channels. The idea is to go along way with just driving by the video not by sight of it in the sky. Distance hungry

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This is a pretty sensitive issue right now with security issues and such.

Even with that aside, technically speaking. This is not really a practical project if you are not an experienced Rc flyer

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You might want to look at the UAV/Drone forum before you find yourself
up a creek and not a paddle to be found.

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What could you possibly be doing? A remote bomb that you can fly to a site?

Hate to blow negative vibes, but as stated, this has been discussed over and over and over.

When your first post on a site is broken, with no punctuation and asking questions like this, it looks bad. Fly them like they are meant to be flown and don't screw the hobby up for those of us who really enjoy it by trying something dumb like this.

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First of all some of you are quite nice so thanks. For the others that think they are hot stuff, you can get lost. Just because i think it would be cool to fly a long way dosent mean im going to blow anything up. Actually it was going to be a project for a Hunting Club that my family is a part of. Thousands of acres could be seen from the air, aswell as wildlife. Note that it would be quite a sight. Stupid, ha if to advance or make something better is stupid, than YOU need help. At the same time i do understand regulations and worry of attack after 911 but i know that it is possible to fly over privately own land under these rules without the FBI going crazy. RC planes can be flown in the 6 meter band if you have hamradio license, which i have. The other rules i will check on so i will not spoil your hobby for you. People in this world is at so haste to judge people that they dont know.

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speedster...slow down a sec....while some of the replies may have been harsh and brash...don't loose the message because you didn't care for the messenger....
You are making or trying to make a UAV....the rules for a UAV are different...I personally don't know what they are...
I do know the FAA doesn't care if your flying over private land, an airplane is always flying over someones land, but the FAR's remain the same..
I think the message that was poorly attempted to be brought forth was to do research..get advice from the FAA, FCC, and even Home Land Security...before attempting too much.....

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Ya, and thanks for the help.

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To be honest, I wouldn't use a beam for the transmitter. I would use an omnidirectional antenna. Depending on the antenna, some beams are pretty tight and you could lose the airplane. I'd pick up a cheap Antron or something. You can find AM radios fairly cheap that operate in the 27.415 - 27.555 range. The antron would work great. You can hook an external antenna to the transmitter, but you'd have to play with the length of the coax to get the SWR just right. The radio already has a matching unit built in, so I wouldn't recommend using an external one.
I have video on one of my planes, but the best shots I get are from a 2 meter glider at 500 - 700 ft. You can see a long ways off from that high. I've never dabbled in going beyond my line of sight. I was never comfortable leaving an expensive plane in the hands of electronic fate. If the plane were to go down for some reason, like over a wooded area, I could probably tell which tree it was in, and not have any idea where that tree is.
My question to you is why use HAM for video? I haven't kept up since I got out of the whole HAM thing, but you can get equipment now that you don't have to have a license for, and is really light. My biggest concern would be the weight of the transmitter plus the power supply. You can get a nice $200 set up with the receiver plugged in to a monitor right in front of you. You could retransmit that signal over HAM if that's what you were going for.

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Ya, you have alot of good points. I think that im going to buy a Hangar 9 RTF before i invest alot of money and then destroy it. I like the alpha and Arrow for classic but the f-22 seems that it would be more diverse in tricks and the upgrad to 6ch also.

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The F22 is a fun plane but it has 2 major shortcomings. The first is ground clearance, the other is that the gear is realy too stiff to take off and land in grass. I think it was meant to be flown off pavement. I would look into something with a lot of wing area. Extended fly times require larger fuel cells. You get comfortable with it in time, you can get something larger and go to gas. Gas engines are more economical. Longer fly times on less fuel.

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speedster, the F-22 is an awful airplane for a total newbie.
I've flown one, and I seriously don't like it!
It flies too fast, gets too small too quickly, and is twitchy.
For your video plane, it's about as useless as anything could be.
Get a high-wing trainer. The Hangar 9 Alpha is good.
And just a note... you cannot fly an r/c airplane out of visual contact with the operator. It's illegal to do that!

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For your peoject plane, contact Bruce Tharpe Enterprises in Oregon and order a Super Flyin' King. Plan on spending some time building it. Before you start construction, contact the Department of Homeland Security, the FAA, the FCC, and the U.S. Department of State for all the rules and regulations you'll have to abide by. There will likely be some state and local agencies that you'll need to make contact with but the feds will be nice if you ask and tell you who they are. Then apply for a Certificate of Authorization from the FAA to operate the type of aircraft in the manner you desire in the desired airspace. Before you do that, study for the FAA Private Pilot's Examination and pass it. Then obtain a minimum of an FAA Class III medical certificate. You might have all that together by the time you finish building the plane. Of course you'll have to provide all those departments with all the technical specs of the equipment you intend to employ, and fully describe your intended activities.

I seriously doubt you'll get approval to do any more than build and fly a model plane in the usual manner. In the meantime, contact some of the variuos companies that manufacture and operate legitimate UAV's. They'll be happy to sell you the service. Regardless of where you intend to fly, or how you intend to fly, you DO NOT have the freedom to do just any old thing you want. If you want to play with UAV technology you still have to follow the rules.

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If you really want to know whats required just call your local flight standards district office. Their phone number will be on the faa.gov website, and they will be the ones who actually know what you need.

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Ya, now you have an idea

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OK. So we went from unpiloted to unsportsmanlike. I won't help with spotlighting deer from the air in real-time to direct shooters on the ground. Take them by fair chase or hunt at the grocery store.

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:D Thanks Charlie.

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Speedster18- You got an initial negative response because your post was written in horrible grammar and with at least one misspelled word in every line. The only thing the group here has to evaluate you on is your writing, so you came across as a dummy. Dummies come up with bad ideas like weaponizing RC planes and building half thought out systems that cause damage to property and hurt people. So the group here became unwilling to help you very quickly. I am from Mississippi too so I know how bad the education is there, but with effort I overcame it. So can you.

Now to offer some help. Forget about using Ham frequencies to control a plane. Yes, it is still legal, but has fallen out of use because dedicated control systems have come out since then that are so much better. Do a search on "cross country flying" to find some guys who have done the car chase trips like you're talking about. It's possible to cover 100 miles with an optimized plane in one flight, but that's with the best equipment and a highly skilled pilot at the controls. If you're thinking you'd like a plane that flies itself, that's a UAV which has nothing to do with RC hobby flying and doesn't belong in this forum. Note that I don't condemn those who want to pursue UAV projects. It's simply that it's a different hobby with a different set of regulations and a different set of skills than what we do.

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Did you catch the date on the original post? I'm guessing he grew up and found girls by now.