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Old 03-30-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Kani 3 vs. x1cr also titanium

Is the Kanai 3 better than the x1cr? Any big differences?
Is titanium better than aluminum for racing?
I know that titanium is stronger than aluminum but it is heavier.
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If an item is machined to the same strength then it should be lighter in titanium than in aluminium and therefore it should give advantages in racing. But it's a question if the reduction in weight justifies the higher price.
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Titanium is lighter and stronger, and like Engrose said, it costs more.
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Titanium is lighter and stronger, and like Engrose said, it costs more.
Nope, Titanium is stronger but CONSIDERABLY heavier than aluminium. What Engrose said is that 'if they were both machined to the same STRENGTH (not size), then the Ti would be lighter'. In other words, a bar of Ti could be several times thinner than a bar of Ally but have the same strength, therefore because of the reduced VOLUME, the Ti is a lighter bar with the same strength.

Aluminium Density @ 293 K: 2.702 g/cm3
Titanium Density @ 293 K: 4.54 g/cm3

The tensile strength of untreated aluminum is 86.2 MPa
The tensile strength of Titanium ranges from 275 (untreated) to 590 (Ti5) MPa, special grades of Ti6 have been produced with tensile strength up to 1275 MPa, but these are insanely expensive (worth more than platinum).

Sorry to be a geek, interesting stuff tho' eh?


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Default RE: Kani 3 vs. x1cr also titanium

Foxy42 is correct...

Where you need weight saving magnesium/aluminium alloy is usually lightest, but not as strong as the same size article made from Titanium..

Titanium is usually used as a steel substitute, where you need the strength of a steel component but with far less weight...

Examples are nuts and bolts usually, turnbuckles also...

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What about the x1cr vs. Kanai 3...
I know people are tired of the "which is better" question so advantages and disadvantages would be good.

Titanium: It is therefore useless to have parts like the radio tray made out of titanium?
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Titanium Radio Tray would be stiffer than ally, but carbon would be good also...

X1CR is a newer buggy with some nice features, whether its better than the highly developed Kyosho is probably down to the driver on the day...

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ORIGINAL: atomicjtr

Titanium is lighter and stronger, and like Engrose said, it costs more.
Nope, Titanium is stronger but CONSIDERABLY heavier than aluminium. What Engrose said is that 'if they were both machined to the same STRENGTH (not size), then the Ti would be lighter'. In other words, a bar of Ti could be several times thinner than a bar of Ally but have the same strength, therefore because of the reduced VOLUME, the Ti is a lighter bar with the same strength.

Aluminium Density @ 293 K: 2.702 g/cm3
Titanium Density @ 293 K: 4.54 g/cm3

The tensile strength of untreated aluminum is 86.2 MPa
The tensile strength of Titanium ranges from 275 (untreated) to 590 (Ti5) MPa, special grades of Ti6 have been produced with tensile strength up to 1275 MPa, but these are insanely expensive (worth more than platinum).

Sorry to be a geek, interesting stuff tho' eh?



No way!?! and all this time I thought it was lighter *smacks forehead* Thanks for the infomation, I appreciate it!

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