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larsgusc 02-21-2006 11:32 PM

im a beginner
 
k well i am working with about $400 and i was not sure whether to go ahead and go the cheap and easy route with an RTR, or wait a little while and build one myself. i guess since i am going to be racing it i should probly wait and by a better kit.

Super_Dave 02-22-2006 01:21 PM

RE: im a beginner
 
If you buy an RTR buy the Cen Matrix. Solid chassis its deffinatly one of the best built buggies I've seen. The radio equipment is good but we stripped the steering servo on the 2nd day running it. The engine is a great starter engine but it doesn't last that long... maybe 3 gallons or so (I forgot how much fuel my friend had through his but it sure as hell wasn't in there for long). Otherwise I'd say its the best RTR on the market because you don't need to upgrade all of the electronics, motor, or put diff oil in the diffs like you would have to with an Ofna and it is built better then any of the ofnas, the mayhem, or the MP7.5.

If you want a kit go with the Ofna hyper 7 TQ. I know I was against Ofna in the top paragraph but thats only for their RTRs. The hyper 7 TQ kit is a very cheap kit but its a solid buggy with great handling on track. You build it so you set it up the way you want to the first time instead of having a crap setup that makes you pull it apart and rebuild half of it anyway. Put the radio, servos, battery pack, and engine you want in it and your set to go. Your probably going to spend about the same amount of money if you buy either of these buggies.

RC30GTR 02-22-2006 11:33 PM

RE: im a beginner
 
YOu will end up spending close to $1000 for a kit. IF you have the money.. go for it. it will definteily perform better than any RTR.

If your budge is around $400, go with the CEN matrix. It is one true performance buggy. The Airtronicx MX3 FM radio will save you money and give you room for errors. THe buggy iteslf is the toughtest i have seen/own and top notch performance. LIke Dave said, you wont need to upgrade a lot of stuff on the matrix compare to other brands

Super_Dave 02-22-2006 11:58 PM

RE: im a beginner
 
Does anyone know how much the matrix kit is going to be? If its going to be about $250 like the hyper 7 TQ you'll probably get away with about $500 to $600 and still have a very good buggy. Just get the Futaba 2PL and use the servos that come with it (as long as ones a 3305 for steering) for $80 and buy the O.S. .21 RG for $110. Then all you have is the paint for the body, diff oil, and shock oil. Can't forget about the starter box if you get a non pull start/roto start engine.

RC30GTR 02-23-2006 12:48 AM

RE: im a beginner
 
I belive CEN said about $450 - $500 and available in March

Dawman 02-23-2006 10:26 AM

RE: im a beginner
 


ORIGINAL: RC30GTR

YOu will end up spending close to $1000 for a kit. IF you have the money.. go for it. it will definteily perform better than any RTR.

If your budge is around $400, go with the CEN matrix. It is one true performance buggy. The Airtronicx MX3 FM radio will save you money and give you room for errors. THe buggy iteslf is the toughtest i have seen/own and top notch performance. LIke Dave said, you wont need to upgrade a lot of stuff on the matrix compare to other brands

Where are you buying your stuff ? You can build a buggy for $ 600 -700. $1000 for a kit ? You can get a kit for around $350 , $200 for engine , and rest for electronics. Stay away from CEN , every Cen vehicle we sold it came back because it was junk. Cen is fairly new and needs to get their bugs worked out.

Super_Dave 02-23-2006 05:33 PM

RE: im a beginner
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: Dawman



ORIGINAL: RC30GTR

Stay away from CEN , every Cen vehicle we sold it came back because it was junk. Cen is fairly new and needs to get their bugs worked out.



Cen has been around for a while and they have been the bottom of the barrel for nitro r/c but recently they had a change in management. Their new design team made the Matrix and Nemesis and they are quality products but everything else is still crap. Someone at our local track got the matrix and it is one of the best built buggies I've ever seen. My friend is actually racing with the matrix over his kyosho MP777 now. We went over the entire buggy and put it through its paces... the only problems are weak servos... we stripped the steering servo on the 2nd day driving it and the engine doesn't last long but it is a decent engine for the time is does have good pinch. Otherwise it is a bullet proof rolling chassis and has great handling with a little setting up for your driving style and track.

Also $1000 is easy to get to when building a kit. I got my Kyosho MP777 for $250, mach .26 $140, JR XS3 $180, two Futaba S3305 servos $40 each, Diff oil about $20 but probably more, shock oil about $15, Tires to fit the local track $60, starter box and 12v battery $80, reciver pack $30. That is a total of $855. Thats for decent equipment and I still have about 8 sets of tires and a new body and paint so that puts me over $1000. Oh yeah and thats not including a new wing with the body, racers edge shock towers, and center universal drives.

mozzzy_2000 03-06-2006 08:59 AM

RE: im a beginner
 
Best bang for ya buck has got to be a RedCat Hurricane XP also known as a Himoto Torpeda Pro. I have had one for serveral months now & its a blast!
Got in an auction on Ebay for $265US. comes with everything. It comes with a high quality team Infinty .27 engine. No not "legal" but one hell of screamer!!
Took it to my LHS where they just about fell over at its quality for the price & the engine alone. Don;t let anyone fool you into thinking these are crap. they are definately not crap. they are exceptionally robust & fast. 99% of All buggies come from the same factories in China in the first place so that "cheap chinese" argument doesn;t hold much weight. They do about 80KPH not 80MPH as ads will say but that I think has more to do with the chinese translation more than anything
I have recently had 2 massive high speed crashes with only one part snapping, the steering mount. There was zero damage to anything else much to my amazement & to the amazement of the LHS.
I've spoken to many experienced users & they reckon its as good as Kyosho or Ofna & infact I know someone that reckons it sh*ts all over his Ofna 9.5!
The only gripe I have is parts are not that readily available in shops here in Oz. But there are many online stores & these are infact much cheaper that the local hobby stores. Checkout RedCat Racing website for more info & plenty of parts & hopups.
So anyway thats my 2 cents worth. You wont find a better deal than that!
Cheers

RC30GTR 03-06-2006 10:42 PM

RE: im a beginner
 

ORIGINAL: mozzzy_2000

Best bang for ya buck has got to be a RedCat Hurricane XP also known as a Himoto Torpeda Pro. I have had one for serveral months now & its a blast!
Got in an auction on Ebay for $265US. comes with everything. It comes with a high quality team Infinty .27 engine. No not "legal" but one hell of screamer!!
Took it to my LHS where they just about fell over at its quality for the price & the engine alone. Don;t let anyone fool you into thinking these are crap. they are definately not crap. they are exceptionally robust & fast. 99% of All buggies come from the same factories in China in the first place so that "cheap chinese" argument doesn;t hold much weight. They do about 80KPH not 80MPH as ads will say but that I think has more to do with the chinese translation more than anything
I have recently had 2 massive high speed crashes with only one part snapping, the steering mount. There was zero damage to anything else much to my amazement & to the amazement of the LHS.
I've spoken to many experienced users & they reckon its as good as Kyosho or Ofna & infact I know someone that reckons it sh*ts all over his Ofna 9.5!
The only gripe I have is parts are not that readily available in shops here in Oz. But there are many online stores & these are infact much cheaper that the local hobby stores. Checkout RedCat Racing website for more info & plenty of parts & hopups.
So anyway thats my 2 cents worth. You wont find a better deal than that!
Cheers
haha,, dont you know? Redcat dotn make anything, their car is manufacture by himotor which is the same as smartech. they are the same stuff...

stick with the major brand or regart it...

oh also. My Matrix Rules..


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