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Big D HPI Fan 03-19-2008 10:39 PM

Payback
 
Hey everyone i want to get some payback on my friend.

He has an xtm xt2 buggy with a 457 engine, 2 speed, JP-3, and AirTronics servos.

We clocked it at 64 miles per hour and that was on road with street tires.

It does pretty good in the dirt with the right tires and is still crazy fast.

I would like to get a buggy that would go faster and perform better than his.

If anyone has any combinations that are good it would be appreciated. I have about a 700-1,000 price range.


Calin666 03-19-2008 11:29 PM

RE: Payback
 
Losi 8ight race roller, Spektrum DX3R, JR digital servos, 7.4v 1300mah Lipo pack for the reciever, and an OS .21 V-Spec engine. Whoop ass in a box.
Just my opinion.

clifton421 03-20-2008 12:04 AM

RE: Payback
 
Do you want to go faster on the street or at the off-road track? There is a big difference between the two! It is impossible to find one vehicle that will dominate in both areas (otherwise people would be running 8ights in on-road races, lol).

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Dirt_hawg 03-20-2008 01:09 AM

RE: Payback
 
You mean RC8's......

JMcDonald 03-20-2008 11:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: Calin666

Losi 8ight race roller, Spektrum DX3R, JR digital servos, 7.4v 1300mah Lipo pack for the reciever, and an OS .21 V-Spec engine. Whoop ass in a box.
Just my opinion.
Other than the V-Spec, what do those things have to do with going fast in a strait line or bashing? It would be several hundred dollars over his 1000 budget for essentially nothing gained for his purposes.



If you can go for a Truggy instead, you can get the TTR ST-1 for $370 (the price just went back up :( ) and get the optional 2-speed for it ($65). That should pretty easily put you in the same speed range as your friend.

ST1:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.ph...&filter_mfr=41

2-speed Kit:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5791

So about $450 shipped for something that should go as fast as you're shooting for. If you want something a bit better, you can get the Pro Kit version for $465 (which has lots of upgrades for the money), a JR XS3 synthesized radio for $100, and a decent steering servo for another $20, the 2-speed kit for that $65, and a decent engine for under $200 and you will still have only spent less than $900 for what I'd call a pretty damn good setup. You could even go up to $300 on the engine and still be within your $1000 budget.

Pro Kit:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/12858

$20 servo:
http://www.hobby-estore.com/towerpro-mg995-servo.html

$100 JR XS3 radio:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/3449


If you absolutely have to have a buggy I simply suggest buying whatever has the smallest stock pinion gear and largest stock spur gear, then going the other way with them (like, going from a 13/49 or 12/50 setup to a 15/46 setup). Though, even with a 40k+ revving engine that will only put you at about 60 at most. One trick, however, would be to put Truggy wheels / tires on there. I just calculated my top speed with the theoretical 44k rev limit of my Go .21 5-port, and a 15/46 gear combo on my Turmoil using 5" tires (which are actually shorter than most Truggy wheels I believe) and it is about 62. With 5.5" tires (Which I think should be closer) it is about 68MPH. So, with truggy wheels and tires you could make up for his 2-speed. If you are going to do that, you will definately want a .28 engine instead of a .21, though.




sloppyG 03-20-2008 11:56 AM

RE: Payback
 
go brushless and kick his butt

neu 1515 motor on 6s or something silly like that

JB COMP 03-20-2008 12:06 PM

RE: Payback
 
For an engine I would recommend a Ab modded Picco/Jammin 21 or 28 with a good clutch and pipe.
MSR 1005 seems to be a good pipe.


musclecar64 03-20-2008 12:46 PM

RE: Payback
 
Noooooo!!!!![X(]
The towerpro 995 Servo is a piece of crap! Just a few weeks ago, I tried two in my RC8, one for steering and one for throttle/brakes, and they are extremely low quality. I mean EXTREMELY. Don't let the over 200oz. of torque, .13 sec transit speed, so-called "digital" :eek: electronics, and metal gears fool you! This servo may seem fast when brand new before you hit the track, but it will not last. After a little time on the track, the servos were binding so bad that you couldn't even turn the horn at all when not powered on. Also, there was much less torque in one direction than the other. Even when they do work, the overshoot, glitching, and bad centering is embarassing. I thought these would be a great buy ($25 a pair shipped off ebay), but they were'nt even worth it. I immediately switched back to my old Hitec 645 on steering, and JR 590 for throttle. I have since then bought a pair of Associated (ACE) DS1015 servos, one for throttle, and one for steering, and they're awesome! I can't even begin to tell you how much stepping up to some truly high quality, high performance digital servos is worth doing.
Bottom line, do not buy the Towerpro 995 servos. They seem like they're worth a shot, but they aren't. If you are building a dream machine, which is what it sounds like you're trying to do, invest in some good servos. After all, what good is everything else about your car when you don't have total control over it? Just some words of advice.;)

Codeblack 03-20-2008 12:54 PM

RE: Payback
 

ORIGINAL: musclecar64

Noooooo!!!!![X(]
The towerpro 995 Servo is a piece of crap! Just a few weeks ago, I tried two in my RC8, one for steering and one for throttle/brakes, and they are extremely low quality. I mean EXTREMELY. Don't let the over 200oz. of torque, .13 sec transit speed, so-called "digital" :eek: electronics, and metal gears fool you! This servo may seem fast when brand new before you hit the track, but it will not last. After a little time on the track, the servos were binding so bad that you couldn't even turn the horn at all when not powered on. Also, there was much less torque in one direction than the other. Even when they do work, the overshoot, glitching, and bad centering is embarassing. I thought these would be a great buy ($25 a pair shipped off ebay), but they were'nt even worth it. I immediately switched back to my old Hitec 645 on steering, and JR 590 for throttle. I have since then bought a pair of Associated (ACE) DS1015 servos, one for throttle, and one for steering, and they're awesome! I can't even begin to tell you how much stepping up to some truly high quality, high performance digital servos is worth doing.
Bottom line, do not buy the Towerpro 995 servos. They seem like they're worth a shot, but they aren't. If you are building a dream machine, which is what it sounds like you're trying to do, invest in some good servos. After all, what good is everything else about your car when you don't have total control over it? Just some words of advice.;)
I honestly had the opposite experience. I would say stay away from having them control your engine but steering is fine, eventhough i have 995's on both ends. Had them for a little over a year now actually, love them. Maybe I was lucky.

adam-69 03-20-2008 01:01 PM

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. I have since then bought a pair of Associated (ACE) DS1015 servos, one for throttle, and one for steering, and they're awesome! I can't even begin to tell you how much stepping up to some truly high quality, high performance digital servos is worth doing.
cant beat a good pair of ds1015's in my opinion =]

gbasile77 03-20-2008 05:21 PM

RE: Payback
 
if you are just after flat out speed, why get a buggy? get a good road car with 2-speed box.
or just get a 1/10 brushless

musclecar64 03-20-2008 06:41 PM

RE: Payback
 

I honestly had the opposite experience. I would say stay away from having them control your engine but steering is fine, eventhough i have 995's on both ends. Had them for a little over a year now actually, love them. Maybe I was lucky.
Really?
I don't know, I mean, yes, they work, but they're nothing compared to a top quality digital servo, IMO. After getting those DS1015s, there's no going back with me!:D
I'm glad you had a good experience with them, I just don't trust them, personally. I feel like they're lacking in quality, and that they could fail at any time.

Codeblack 03-20-2008 08:30 PM

RE: Payback
 


ORIGINAL: musclecar64


I honestly had the opposite experience. I would say stay away from having them control your engine but steering is fine, eventhough i have 995's on both ends. Had them for a little over a year now actually, love them. Maybe I was lucky.
Really?
I don't know, I mean, yes, they work, but they're nothing compared to a top quality digital servo, IMO. After getting those DS1015s, there's no going back with me!:D
I'm glad you had a good experience with them, I just don't trust them, personally. I feel like they're lacking in quality, and that they could fail at any time.
lol. i dont trust them either. having one for the throttle I always look at it with an uncertain eye:). Also i think it was Miamizfinest who had good experience with these until the throttle end went dead:eek:.. usually its true that you get what you pay for.

adam-69 03-20-2008 08:36 PM

RE: Payback
 


ORIGINAL: gbasile77

if you are just after flat out speed, why get a buggy? get a good road car with 2-speed box.
or just get a 1/10 brushless
very true!

Big D HPI Fan 03-20-2008 09:08 PM

RE: Payback
 
Thanks everyone and i am still dont know what i am going to get but will let yall know.


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