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Old 03-16-2009, 06:19 PM
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I have never had an "adult" RC before. A friend at work, BKfamily01, has helped me decide where to start. Long story short I ordered a HI101 Syclone buggy for my 12 yr. old son and a 908T Viper for myself from Himotoracingusa.com last Friday.

I know that I need to locktite all the metal to metal screws before I break in the engine. I also know that the 2 gallons of Traxus fuel I just bought has too much lubricant in it. I also bought 8 OC 3A glow plugs and 36 AA batteries.

Help out a new and excited guy! What else do I NEED to buy up front, and what else do I need to know! When the cars get here it is going to be all play.
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Just take your time during break in, do the 5 tank break in and you will be fine. Now that I know Bryan sent you, I will be sure to send you a starter kit with it, comes with a fuel bottle, tuning screwdrivers, ingniter and charger. This will get you up and going, all you will need is fuel, batteries and paitience.
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And if you ever need live support you can join paltalk or just ask in here.
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your going to need some air filter oil and some after run oil....and beings Eddie is hooking you up with starter kits your pretty much golden....I also noticed you bought alot of AA batteries...for now until you get some 5-cell hump packs for the reciever (you dont need them but they are nice) make sure you tape or wrap a rubber band around the batteries for the reciever....I'd throw a failsafe on them aswell...and on nitro rc's ALWAYS make your at bdc (bottom dead center) ASAP when the engine is not running

and most importantly...HAVE FUN
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Thanks for the recommendations guys, and thanks Eddy for the kit!

Another question, has anybody tried treating the cylinder and piston with a metal treatment like Militec-1?
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found it, i dont know how that would work, doesnt seem like it would hurt.

http://www.militec1.com/
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[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7644445]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7644445[/link]

Phil, this thread links to all the good threads like tips and tricks.

Bryan
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Hey Phil.....

Welcome to the Himoto Family!!!

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Thanks Bryan, those links should occupy me for awhile. Three days left and I will have my car!
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Eddie and friends,

The screw settings per the manual on the X2S were rich enough that the engine was hard to start and would not stay running. We leaned it out a bit to get it running and start the break in. Phil used a temp gun during break in, and verified the temps, so we are sure they are right. My question is about breaking in by temp versus by screw settings. For the first several tanks during which he was leaning out the screw settings after every tank, the temps started all the way down at about 140 and slowly climbed to maybe 205 through several tanks. Then they started to climb pretty quickly, and Phil adjusted the screws to a good conservative tune with temps around 210 or so.

Is it OK to break in at such low temps for the first few tanks? Is that what you want? Or do you want to get the temps up around 200 or so right away and keep them up (but not too high) during break in?

I am hoping to get the RXT broken in this weekend and wanted your opinion about break in temps.

Thanks!

BK
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make sure you check out the OUT OF BOX Videos...

[link=http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/3/RC-Out-of-the-Box-Pt-1-of-5-690442.html]Part 1[/link]
[link=http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/3/RC-Out-of-the-Box-Pt-2-of-5-690600.html]Part 2[/link]
[link=http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/3/RC-Out-of-the-Box-Pt-3-of-5-690627.html]Part 3[/link]
[link=http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/3/RC-Out-of-the-Box-Pt-4-of-5-690667.html]Part 4[/link]
[link=http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/3/RC-Out-of-the-Box-Pt-5-of-5-691093.html]Part 5[/link]
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Thanks, Adam. I have watched all of them. I expect to finish going over everything today. I tore the RXT down to the chassis and have been reassembling checking, loctite-ing and adjusting as I go.
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BK,
Thats the way to do it bro...... just dont rush it.. take your time...




Phil G,
Make sure you Watch the OUT OF BOX Videos......
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ORIGINAL: bkfamily1

Eddie and friends,

The screw settings per the manual on the X2S were rich enough that the engine was hard to start and would not stay running. We leaned it out a bit to get it running and start the break in. Phil used a temp gun during break in, and verified the temps, so we are sure they are right. My question is about breaking in by temp versus by screw settings. For the first several tanks during which he was leaning out the screw settings after every tank, the temps started all the way down at about 140 and slowly climbed to maybe 205 through several tanks. Then they started to climb pretty quickly, and Phil adjusted the screws to a good conservative tune with temps around 210 or so.

Is it OK to break in at such low temps for the first few tanks? Is that what you want? Or do you want to get the temps up around 200 or so right away and keep them up (but not too high) during break in?

I am hoping to get the RXT broken in this weekend and wanted your opinion about break in temps.

Thanks!

BK
BK.....

Personally?
I Like to get my Engine Temperature up to approximately 200 Degrees F as soon as Possible. Within the first or second tank.
I have Found that Factory Needle settings are almost Always too Rich....I think this is a Throwback to the Days of Yore, when we Idled through the First Tank (car raised up on blocks) with Extremely Rich settings.

You will see my Personal Break in Method when Adam and I film my Buggy Break In for our Video series. I use the same Method for ALL my engines, Big or Small Block. In a Nutshell: I start the engine and start to drive the car immediately at no more than 1/4 throttle. On and off the throttle and I only come to complete stops when I adjust the HSN. I start Leaning the HSN almost Immediately and usually reach a temperature of around 200 degrees F before the 1st Tank is done.

Its pretty Straightforward Process after That. Standard 5 Tank Break In, whereby I increase the Throttle a bit on every Tank until I am doing "on and off" runs at Full Throttle by the 5th Tank....Through the entire process, I monitor Temps very carefully and try to Never exceed 220 F....
I start Tuning for Performance on the 6th Tank, but I still try to "keep it Rich" for the first 1/2 gallon of fuel that I put through the engine.

Keep in Mind that Ambient air temps will affect the speed and ease at which your engine reaches operating Temps. Here in So California its usually around 80 degrees F (at least ) so my engines heat up Fast and I actually have to make sure the dont go "over temp".
Up North in your area of the woods it will take a bit longer to get the Temps up. I would be careful not to "over lean' the engine just to reach a target temperature. I'm Thinking that 180 to 215 would be a good Ballpark temperature for your friend to aim for during Break In...
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try to get and keep 200 during break in.
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This Viper X2S is a blast! I spent 2.5 hours trying to start it the first night, when I started getting to the point that it would fire up, the glow plug thingy lost its charge (what is that called). I think the suggested starting point on the HSN was just too high.

I had Bryan take a look at it, he tinkered with it for a few minutes and showed me a few things then had it running in under a minute...SHOWOFF! Like he said on my first and second tank I only hit the 110's (F). I turned the HSN 1/2 turn in after each run, the next three runs were 150's, 220's then a scarry brief 305 [:-] before I richened it up again. I am usually between 210 and 255 degrees now. I am coming up on 20 tanks run through the engine, and it is running strong!

I spent some time today (after 2 sway bars came off the connectors after an incredible display of cartwheels) retightining all nuts and screws, I was suprised at how loose everything was.

My 12 yr old wants one so bad. He is going to load his pants when he gets his Syclone for his birthday!

The videos are tough for me to watch at home, dial up[&o]. I will try to check them out later at work. I have to ......GET TO help my son break in his after his birthday!

So what should I get next, I am thinking bigger faster and more off road capable. Is there a road racing / rock crawler hybrid?


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if you like speed buy the taipan xrs
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Hey Phil....
Didn't I read somewhere that Brian got himself an RXT-1?

If he Did,,,,you might Check THAT out,,,,,,You'd be Runnin with the Big Boys if you got one of THOSE....[sm=tongue_smile.gif]
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Here are a few vids of my Taipan....

[link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83EAEpG0IVo]Video 1[/link]
[link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNHuGihkuHo&feature=channel_page]Video 2[/link]
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Phil....may I make a suggestion on your purchases?....first off I think you and your son would be much happier with the megap mxb buggy (thats if he wants a buggy)...bit more money then the syclone but a better rc....
and my suggestion for you is a rxt-1 or a rxb-1....I have not ran my rxt-1 yet but if u want a combination of speed, off-road ability and on-road ability I would go with the rxb-1...then buy you some street slicks for on-road use (they work well...I got mine cheap from suprasales)...then u got the best of all three worlds, speed, offroad and on-road ability

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