my next generation roll center sway bar for any scale vehicle
2nd version generation 4
if you raize one side of lower suspension arm it of course lift the other side but at the same time and or any time and or before that the ball put preasure on the oposite tire increase grip to drive better at any time left right front rear https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...22f4c34365.png 1st version generation 3 i dezign that took to much room to many part az double bearing https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...4a2cf4e749.png here iz the original generation - prototype i made a few yearz ago https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...04a18842ff.png i would say say generation 0 iz no sway bar generation 1 iz a team associated tc5 sway bar no bearing generation 2 iz a team xray t4 2018 sway bar with bearing generation - prototype see my prototype generation 3 prototype see my prototype generation 4 my center ball thought created 2018 may 13 sunday 02:00 p.m generation 5 feature my rear generation 4 and or front end connect to front knuckle steering arm and turn when knuckle turn to compress inside front suspension and decompress out side front suspension that angle main lower chassis plate for center gravity toward turn instead of the oposite way natural with a example 1:10 scale electric buggy that main lower chassis plate tip to out side side of car if you turn left chassis top right which iz roll center anti i make a lot of new generation part see link below |
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when i dezign the double bearing i hated it for it did not make room the same amount of space mass that this below made
Attachment 2260442 after hard work sufering and a few dayz later today my mind natural told me it like a ball when i woke up that moment with in that next 5 minutez and to my suprize that i want it to fit like above it doez |
i have just finish making a prototype new generation shock with adjust ride height that doeznot effect spring compression
when you adjust ride height from lower suspension arm you turn a set screw that compress the suspension this dezign iz on the very top of the shock assembly and you can uze your octagon wrench to adjust ride height https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2b4dae64ee.png |
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Back to reinventing the wheel, eh? |
dint this jack might get banned from other forums. YES he did..
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yup
i went thru every part of the 1:10 scale to up grade in to some thing new for the world market i think i will call the roll center bar generation 2 with prototypez deleted |
another type of ride height adjustment it new so it can have some quark
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...490046b44b.png |
Originally Posted by tntpooof
(Post 12431858)
dint this jack might get banned from other forums. YES he did..
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i re contrust the prototype file
i liked it any way you can make a ball for this where the bar iz like the first image of a ball roll center bar but have it only rotate from roll center and uze bearing to rotate left right so it a hybrid https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...03c08369d6.png |
i made a new version to day
it iz the simplist and or cheapest i could make from the double bearing and or ball https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2794661986.png well i made a carbon fiber verison the carbon fiber iz to be cut at angle but show image u shape https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...c9f95c3660.png |
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the simplist versionz in my post above can angle on the center ball cup so i made https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...1b8fc2db41.png https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...983b16166a.png |
i have one prototype to look at
it uzez a lower shaft mount not a ball mount low arm suspension mount so it not a double ball mount the bottom iz a hole for a shaft and screw like the bearing mount above but it mounted at a right angle for the first prototype becauze if it angle iz straight it bindz when the suspension compress i am thinking that i cant under stand until i draw it or think about it that that angle iz important that it linez up left right grip with up down roll with one of the above versionz to make it rotate mmmm like a trick to figure out |
here it iz !!!!
my final prototype .... and i think it iz my best version out of all of them for price part count eaze of assembly it cheap and the geometery of the angle lower bal lower suspension arm shaft take the center ball cup that can az a car siting angle left right horizontal and it removez that ability that mean when you drive it it iz at a angle the bar but with this angle mount the cylinder it can not angle akward i have chozen theze 3 for my finalz i could add the ball but it for now are theze prototypes edit i forgot to mention there could be a precise angle not just a 45 degree to this https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...d671216d2c.png https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...8a0c3bafae.png https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...10f839f40a.png |
It’s all BS until it ends up on a model and proven to be a worthwhile “upgrade”. Until theres proof it works and works better than what’s currently available,’nobody is going to take a second look. Prove this is more than a bunch of fancy MS Paint drawings. |
Originally Posted by 1QwkSport2.5r
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It’s all BS until it ends up on a model and proven to be a worthwhile “upgrade”. Until theres proof it works and works better than what’s currently available,’nobody is going to take a second look. Prove this is more than a bunch of fancy MS Paint drawings. there are so many people pissed below me.... the next generation |
I’m not pissed. I don’t give a crap. What I do give a crap about are innovations that truly make my RC experience significantly better. Example: RPM suspension arms. Better than stock and lifetime warranty. Make a better than stock part that is more durable and better performance for a good price and I will buy it. Throw a bunch of reinvented wheel pictures without any proof the “theory” is better than anything currently available and you will get laughed off like a red headed step child. Post this stuff on a racing forum and you’ll get banned for spamming. Prove your stuff works in reality and you’ll get better reception. |
Originally Posted by 1QwkSport2.5r
(Post 12432379)
<div style="text-align:left;">I’m not pissed. I don’t give a crap. What I do give a crap about are innovations that truly make my RC experience significantly better. Example: RPM suspension arms. Better than stock and lifetime warranty. Make a better than stock part that is more durable and better performance for a good price and I will buy it. Throw a bunch of reinvented wheel pictures without any proof the “theory” is better than anything currently available and you will get laughed off like a red headed step child. Post this stuff on a racing forum and you’ll get banned for spamming.<br /><br />Prove your stuff works in reality and you’ll get better reception.</div><br /><br />
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Bring in the 4 theory 4 wire brushless motor.
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you mean
4 tires go in the vent.... it even court cases.... i think los angeles try to hide there pride missing i sent this image with a text to l.a.p.d called bad stuf emergency over ride.... i uze https://pixlr.com/editor/ https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...52aa95b584.png |
the only other version i have to all 3 that i have chozen to be my only 3
iz the right angle lower suspension arm shaft iz instead at a straight angle with the screw on the out side facing the same way the tire faces then.... if you do a right angle you can also angle that right angle up ward to have two anglez az 1 for the shaft lower mount i am guesing that iz the one you need but you can realy draw it you ahve to cad https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...cbc5f648cd.png i have to look at both but it coming in close for the final race who will win |
there are two downfals to my designz
all of them there iz camber change when you set your turn buckle you have to have in the side turnbuckle mount higher than the outside knuckle mount when you compress suspension the pre set camber angle extends outward becauze the angle turnbuckle getz longer az you compress suspension becuaze it iz a angle iz shorter than a straight line but after time the camber and width start to degrade together and there iz no way you can change this from happening you can only make it worse by have a turn buckle that iz lower on the inside or turnbuckle that iz straight horizontal only a mini-z ma-010 with it up down suspension can have camber with zero change in width and or camber so that iz a rule of thumb when you do stabilizerz that your lower suspension mount will never get in the same line az your stabilizer anglez and it i will degrade after time that it bindz it getz tight cauze you cant alingn it like camber this iz the nature of a car the only downfal i do not have a computer with 3d cad moveable rendering to draw a circle of the left right bearing then a circle of each type of lower suspension mount and i am guessing if i did all of that you will still alwayz find a percentage when it compress that iz bindz you can only reduce it to itz lowest value binding meanz it wantz to pul in another direction and or getz stif to bend in it self the bar will bend in the middle but never zero then imagine making this for a ma-010 when i know that you will alwayz seem stuck on a 1:10 suspension that when you look at ma-010 you feel the same az it takez up your time the binding the camber change the toe change in suspension compres you also have kick up to add to that stabilzer i made where you angle the inner lower suspension hinge pinz upward toward inside the car or the other angle then you can also angle thoze from a down view to the car out ward and or inward that go with the angle lower shaft suspension stabilizer mount to make it angle back az when you compress the roll will angle the the barz back a way from the mount it on ........................... you also have a ability to make a shaft that slide in a another shaft ya a shft that slide in a hollow shaft that can roll with the motion of the suspension and with bal mount angle but it slide in to the other shaft to roll another direction liek back az a roll center bar doez to compensate but still achieve both typez of stabilizer a roll center and a oposite tire grip i never tried it |
i had another verson
wheren you have the dobubel ball mount and there iz no ball cup snap to put on the end of the bar and you put like a turnbuckle you can find here and there the metal ball with teh hole in it ya..... a left right grip bar take two double ball suspension mountz ball shaft ball that i have put a turnuckle ball in side the top of them slide you bar in with the double bearing mount if you lift left it compres right but if you lift both it doez not do any thing to put a screw you put that metal ball in to the double ball mount for suspension when you turn left it compress right and start to angle the bar you you slide in to the little ball in side that movez liek a turnbuckle ball then it naturaly liftz up both side and the sway bar slidez in and out that ball but there iz friction that comez with it to slide a bar in side a hole that anglez to a force it need to angle |
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