glow plug ignitor dead?
 

friday i used my glow plug ignitor for my mammoth and it took 15 pulls to start but it ran and ran flawlessly. i was gonna drive it today (saturday) so i decided to give it a 10hr charge. went to play with it today and truck didnt start. checked the glow of another glow plug and nothin. checked the one thats in the engine now, nothin. how could my ignitor die over one charge? is this infact the ignitor's battery? the ignitor is nothin but 2 months old.red alum case with a sanyo cadnica ni cad 1.2v 1300mah battery. could the bat be the prob? and where can i get one of these batteries besides online?

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it might have short circited, i dont know where you can get a new battery, i took mine apart and the battery had like metal and paper over eachother.

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how can i tell if its short circuited? dammit this thing isnt that old

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i'm not sure, just a wild guess

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is that actuall glow plug glowing red?

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Do you have a Volt-meter or a multimeter? You can try testing the battery with even a torch light bulb. What about the charger? Are you sure the charger is OK? If your battery is comparatively new, the chances are it has gone to 'SLEEP'.

If you discharge the cell too much, your glow-plug charger may have problem restarting it. What you need is to Jump start it like they do in ER.[8D]

Get a six cell pack, like a 7.2v. It is probably best if it is NOT fully charged. Then connects the black cable to the -ve side of the glow plug battery. Now connect the Red cable to the +ve side of the glow plug battery for about 8 SECOND. The battary should now have about 1v or higher after jump starting. You can now put the battery back on charge using your glow plug charger.

This should keep you going until the New NiMH 3300mAh cell arrives from your on-line shop. My old glow plug battery gone dead last week. I replaced the old 1800mAh with a 2000mAh. Also, I bought a new glow plug starter with meter & a GP 3300mAH. I think you want to get the best capacity battery you can afford, and Ni-MH is probably better than Ni-Cd because it does not need to be discharged first when recharge. Hope you find the info useful.

Normanski

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ur blue one looks like mine, ceptits red. so just order a 3300mah single cell battery? iv only charged this thing 3 times. the first time was 24hrs. 2nd time was 18hrs, and lastnight at 8hrs.. i have a volt meter yes. i dont know how to work it so i set it at the V settin at 20 and got 0.08... i dont know what to think of that

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With your volt-meter, set it to DC (Direct current), then set the measure range to 20v or 10v or even lower as long as it is bigger than 3v. The norminal voltage of a single Ni-Cd should be about 1.2~1.3v.

If 0.08v is what you are seeing, then try my jump start suggestion. After jump starting, check the battery voltage again. If it reads above 1v, your battery is OK to be recharged using the glow plug charger. Try it!

Normanski

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OUCH!!!! the wires got hot!! i did the 8 sec jump start with a 7.2volt now read 1.28v. i guess its ok then? does itneed another 12hr charge to get it full? and how many times can i do this till the battery kills itself

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Caution: Normanski jump start method may damaged your health!

Well Done! Well, I will not do the jump start too frequently. What is the current output of your charger? On your charger, it should read something like OUTPUT: DC 3V, XXXX mA. Tell me what the XXX is.

If your charger is OK, as I said that should keep you going until your new battery arrives. Here is the link to the battery you may need:

http://www.gpbatteries.com.hk/html/t...racing_car.asp

Does your glow plug starter accepts 'Sub-C' cell instead of 'C'? The diameter of Sub-C is 23mm. You can go bashing this afternoon hopefully.

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One more thing! May be you can try 5 seconds next time.:D

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the charger reads OUTPUT: DC 1.25v 170mah

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You will need to charge your cell for

1300/170 = 7.65 hr.

I would just leave it on-charge for may be 5 hrs. Are you bashing this afternoon? How is the Mammoth? I have a MTA-4 a.k.a. MGT.

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ok thanks man.
if weather permits im gonna try some bashin. nothin totally insane no roll cage or braces yet. but enough to rip the muffler off and smash the body! mammoth is great. i love doing 4wd burnouts and dounuts on concrete. thanks for the help!

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i charged it for 5 hrs. i test it and its dead again ***? i jump started it agian but no power left. so much for bashin. pos battery didnt even last 3 charges time for a new one

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Sorry to hear! Are you sure the Charger is OK? Check the output of your Charger with your voltmeter.

I am annoyed that we cannot get Glow plug starter that accept 'C' size battery. You can always get normal (Non chargeable) 'C' size from any supermarket or 7-11.

If the charger is OK, then it is time to get some new battery! Sorry!

Normanski

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2.39 is what the charger reads out. they have C battery ignitors. that what i first had. but it had no where enough juice to keep that plug glowing. couple light ups and its wasted. i ordered 2 GP3300 cells. how long should i charge that for?

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Lucky you! With C size glow plug starter, you can still get Ni-MH in C size. They now have capacity of 4000mAH in C size I think. And if anything happens to the cell or you forgot to charge the night before, at least you have a choice to use the non-chargeable cells which are readily available in shops.

The charge time for your new cell should be 3300/170 = 20hrs.

Do you still have the C size glow plug starter?

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20 hrs yikes!!! how many "ignites' could i possibly get outta that. if i run the mammoth on weekends only. do the chrages last for a month if i rearly use it? i hope i dont have to charge it 20hrs every week!

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/257101.asp

that was the c cell ignitor i had. i have no clue where i put it..

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The good thing about Ni-MH cell is that it does not need to be discharged first before recharging. Once you get the new cell, put it on-charge for at least 20hrs. You need to charge it until it is warm to touch.

My old 1800mAh can last easily one day, so the 3300mAh should last 2 days of normal use. But because it doesn't need to be discharged first, you can put the cell back on-charge the moment you get home and it will take less time to fully charge the cell because of the left over energy from the last charge. Your charger is really a trickle charger with relatively low current output. Some people would say that you can leave the cell on trickle charge for long period of time without any damage.

A better solution would be to get a high current charger with Peak-detection. I have one for charging AA & AAA size battery, and I made a special cable to charge my glow plug starter.

Normanski

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Here is a photo of my charger.

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charged the battery like u said for 20hrs. and behold the dam thing still dont work! i remeber the charger gettin warm. so i prob come to conclusion that the ignitor is dead. wow what a HUGE POS to not even last 2 months. i sure as hell hope i dont have to charge the batt again for another 20hrs [:@]. ah the spinnin around in cicrles!

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Had a problem close to what you are experiencing ,make sure that after you have charged your heater that the spring retracts so that it is fully extented, this after you make sure that all connections are secure, RED

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which spring? the oneinside?

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the one out side, your not getting a good ground on the heater or your charger is not working right, you are using the sub c cell right , RED