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AznAbyss952 01-27-2003 03:02 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
Starting nitro engines can be a pain in the arse. Is a starter box worth it?

dbow 01-27-2003 03:09 AM

Starter Box
 
Yes


http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAXU2&P=7


dbow

dbow 01-27-2003 03:18 AM

Starter Box
 
Why did you change the question?

AznAbyss952 01-27-2003 03:32 AM

Re: Starter Box
 

Originally posted by dbow
Why did you change the question?

It made me feel like a mad n00b when I'm not not really a n00b even tho this question does kinda put me in that category...lol...plus i found the starter box in old post...putting the search engine on this forums to use.

dbow 01-27-2003 03:40 AM

NO
 
Nah I wouldnt worry bout looking like a noob. Its probably that you just have never used a starter box.
Sounds like the pull start served you well for a while. Now of course you see the light and know that pullstarts are crap...lol
Just my opinion.

Anyhow, a starter box can do a lot for ya and make things easier.
It is a little heavy to carry around if you have a 12V but its worth it when it comes time to start the car.
No yanking on that darn string anymore, My first pullstart just about ripped my skin off my fingers. I will never use another one in my life.
My Ofna Box has been going strong for a few years now, I have not done one thing to it but replace the 12V.

Dbow

grampi 01-27-2003 04:17 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
I have a starter box, and I couldn't imagine being without it.

AznAbyss952 01-27-2003 04:24 AM

Re: NO
 

Originally posted by dbow
Nah I wouldnt worry bout looking like a noob. Its probably that you just have never used a starter box.
Sounds like the pull start served you well for a while. Now of course you see the light and know that pullstarts are crap...lol
Just my opinion.

Anyhow, a starter box can do a lot for ya and make things easier.
It is a little heavy to carry around if you have a 12V but its worth it when it comes time to start the car.
No yanking on that darn string anymore, My first pullstart just about ripped my skin off my fingers. I will never use another one in my life.
My Ofna Box has been going strong for a few years now, I have not done one thing to it but replace the 12V.

Dbow


A starter box is a little on the expensive side tho...lol...it is worth saving for a while and buying one?

Moonunit451 01-27-2003 04:50 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
Well, I am a NOOB and so far I haven't realized the neccesity of a box, although I have had the skin ripped off my fingers.

I guess I ought to consider a box before too long if it's that important.

AznAbyss952 01-27-2003 05:19 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
As soon as I got enough money for everything, then I will go for what I want.

KyleSch 01-27-2003 11:23 PM

Is a started box worth it?
 
Ive never had any problems with pull starts. I know my friends have gotton blisters on their hand from using the pullstart, thats never happened to me for some reason.

}{unter 01-27-2003 11:26 PM

AznAbyss952
 
You alrdy have a pull start correct? you will have to buy a Backplate (take pull start off) and get a new flywheel. They also have a magnifold for pull start im not sure if you HAVE to buy one of thoes but the other 2 you have to.

Just pull the damn thing :p

}{unter

grampi 01-27-2003 11:54 PM

Is a started box worth it?
 
If you're referring to using a starter box in the RC 10GT Plus, you don't have to buy anything but the starter box.

I removed my pull start assembly because I never use it, and because I heard that after time, the assembly can put a drag on the engine. Once you remove the pull start cover assembly, you'll notice the crankshaft protruding out from the rear of the engine. The shaft goes through a baring, which is mounted in the engine's backplate. I simply removed the guts of the pull start assembly, plugged the rope hole with some silicone, and reinstalled the pull start cover.

You don't need to replace the flywheel either. The factory one works just fine with the starter box.

}{unter 01-28-2003 01:48 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
But i do have to pull the pull starter guts out right?

Also why would they make This fly wheel For it
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LX3379&P=7

and this one for non pull start ?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LX3377&P=V

theres got to be difference.


}{unter

grampi 01-28-2003 02:00 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
You don't have to pull the guts out, but if you're going to use a starter box, why not pull them out? It reduces weight, and the chance

Good question about the different flywheels. I don't know why they offer different flywheels for the pull start, and non-pull start engines. I can tell you I have the Duratrax 1/10 universal starter box, and the flywheel that came on my RC 10GT Plus works just fine with it.

nitroman88 01-28-2003 02:35 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
how about just using a 20 dollar hand held and a rubber wheel insert. works for me!

rcfoolz 01-28-2003 03:32 AM

starter box or not
 
I was fed to believe that a starter box was for those other guys. Well, count me in, I'm one of those other guys. The starter box IS my best friend on race dar. It shure saves on the band-aids for the fingers too

AznAbyss952 01-28-2003 03:57 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
So what exactley will I need if i plan on getting a starter box?

grampi 01-28-2003 04:17 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 

Originally posted by AznAbyss952
So what exactley will I need if i plan on getting a starter box?
You'll need a battery (or batteries) for it, and a battery charger. I already had a 12V battery charger, so I bought the 12V sealed battery for mine. It works great, and I can't remember the last time I had to charge it.

AznAbyss952 01-28-2003 04:26 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
What will I have to modify on my engine?

nitroman88 01-28-2003 04:46 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
abyss: have you concidered a hand held starter and a rubber wheel? it is much less and works just as good as a starter box. just trying to save you some money. 60-140 bucks for a starter box was to much for me to spend on starting the engine.

AznAbyss952 01-28-2003 05:03 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 

Originally posted by nitroman88
abyss: have you concidered a hand held starter and a rubber wheel? it is much less and works just as good as a starter box. just trying to save you some money. 60-140 bucks for a starter box was to much for me to spend on starting the engine.

Thanx for trying to save me money...I know what a starter box and and pretty much how it works...but what is a hand held starter and rubber wheel? How does it work?

Moonunit451 01-28-2003 07:59 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
}{unter,

I think the difference in the flywheels is due to the actual height of the engine
from the chassy in the pullstart and non pullstart mounting application.

AznAbyss952,

The hand held starter is basically a handheld electric motor, with an armature extending out of the end of it to which you attach a round wheel with a rubber ring around the circumference(like the one in a box) They usually need to be connected with 2 clips to a twelve volt, like a car battery. They look kind of awkward to use to me.

BUGGIES_R_US 01-28-2003 02:35 PM

I like the boxes..
 
MY thanks to dbow for hookin me up with starter boxes.. when I was breaking the engine in.. it was a pain to pull it.. althought my engine was good to me!
I'd frequently wake up with a sore finger!

I think the bump start is actually cumberson to work with.. and if you look around you can get a good starter box for under 100 easy!
Like me for instance selling one for 60 shipped :D
-ram

dbow 01-29-2003 12:29 AM

Pull start Vs Starter box
 
The pull start does not have to be removed, most car flywheels will reach on most cars/Trucks.

Back in the day everyone always said the pullstart created drag on an engine. I have proven this to be true several times. If you were to put a lightweight flywheel on your engine and keep the pullstart, you will find that the engine will have a very hard time holding a idle. Remove the pullstart and it will idle along all day just fine. You of course wouldnt want to put on the lightweight flywheel , but Im using it as an example to make a point about the drag, as it is true.

Grab the box and keep the pullstart, think of the pullstart in positive ways. I realize thats hard for some but your engine should start fairly easy once its warmed up. The box will do the dirty work and if the engine quits just tote your heater in your pocket and you can start er back up without having to run back to the box.

Im not saying that I would have a pullstart and starter box and spend the money for such, but if you already have one, make good use of it while it last.

Dbow

Moonunit451 01-29-2003 05:46 AM

Is a started box worth it?
 
Excelant points as usual dbow, I learn something from you nearly daily.


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