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fuzion18ss 07-09-2007 04:42 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
Fox,

I'm suprised you aren't chewing up the 45 tooth pinion gear because you have a mismatch.

18 + 45 = 63

23 + 41 = 64


When doing gearing, you want the sum of the first set to match the sum of the second set. This ensures the same amount of gear mesh in both sets.

You could use a 39T pinion for second and pick your first gear pinion and spurs based on what you have and/or want.

Give some thought towards a 41T 1st and 39T second with highest spurs you could get (so 23 and 21) if you have a lot of wheel spin off the line

My personal setup is the 43T/39T pinions with the stock red spurs (19 and 23). I have a 18ss with RD logics turbo II pipe and with this gearing I reduced my wheel spin (from the stock gearing)

Good luck and nice build.


[link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXM617&P=7]39T Pinion[/link]

fox222 07-09-2007 08:38 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
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That's what the gear charts shows for this car. All of the pinions are the same diameter with a little creative teeth spacing. Down at the bottom of the chart it states that you can use any 1st gear pinion with any 2nd gear pinion.

HeLLsGoD 07-09-2007 09:02 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
yes i moved to antarctica to slide with the penguins...

yeah you can use any 1st gear pinion with 2nd gear pinions but i think youll need corresponding spurs with it..

watch this clip.. drift stage-d. he uses different color pinions and drifts like a god

[link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J03GmPRH2O8[/link]

almtx3 07-10-2007 08:59 AM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 

ORIGINAL: HeLLsGoD

yes i moved to antarctica to slide with the penguins...
LOL!! hahahah! Too funny man!

That car in the video was outrageous [X(] - Not only can it drift like a monster but it looks way good doing it! The whole HPI lighting up on the side thing was incredible. Very cool! - thanks for posting it HeLLsGoD.

I recently purchased the gold pinion gears and I will be heading out to track this weekend so hopefully there will be some kind of difference in bottom end. We will see...

phoenix_stu 07-11-2007 10:56 AM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 


ORIGINAL: fox222

Well, we are about to find out if the GPM center shafts are 18TZ tough.

Sorry if this is a bit off topic.
Could you explain a little about those rear body mount posts and maybe a link of where to get some like that. They really look effective.

fox222 07-13-2007 10:21 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
Sorry, I have had them for years. They may have been made by Kyosho but I'm not sure.

phoenix_stu 07-13-2007 11:01 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
Thanks anyway.[8D]

RLMHPI 07-16-2007 06:22 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
So how are the shafts holding up are they TZ tough I keep snapping dog bones with my CVR i could just imagine the TZ!!! So whats the deal so far am i going to buy some or what??? ..lol..

fox222 07-16-2007 08:00 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
Buy them! I have alot of runs and center shafts and they are doing great. Now I have broken one of my rear MIP cvd’s so I thinking of ordering the universal axel shafts from GPM also.

fox222 07-16-2007 08:14 PM

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Ever had this happen?

HeLLsGoD 07-16-2007 09:10 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
howd u manage to do that?

fox222 07-16-2007 09:14 PM

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18TZ

RLMHPI 07-16-2007 09:50 PM

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Cant say i have!!!! lol good job

Nitro212 07-16-2007 10:19 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
lol man i fear that TZ is teasing me to buy it but i fear it cuz lol i know imma spend alot of cash in my car cuz i break stuff with my cvr i can only imagine the TZ

i always break a suspension arm yesterday i broke the steering thing a screw broke so and so i got bad luck :(

almtx3 07-17-2007 09:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: fox222

Ever had this happen?
OK WOW! [X(] So now I definitely want a TZ! That engine is no joke. Glad to hear the center shafts are holding up Fox, what are your plans for replacing that spur gear? I haven't seen metal or hardened spur gears for our cars and it seems like you're gonna need them.

almtx3 07-17-2007 10:31 AM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 


ORIGINAL: fox222

Well, we are about to find out if the GPM center shafts are 18TZ tough.

Where did you buy the center shafts fox? I've searched around but haven't found a place that sells them?

phoenix_stu 07-17-2007 10:35 AM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
You can find em' here...
http://stores.ebay.com/RC-MALL_HPI-R...QQftidZ2QQtZkm

I ordered a bunch of stuff from them and they are pretty good and reasonable.

To be more precise:
http://cgi.ebay.com/GPM-Steel-Main-U...QQcmdZViewItem

almtx3 07-17-2007 10:55 AM

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Thanks a million phoenix_stu! Yeah Ive ordered from them in the past and they are pretty good. I never thought to check them out.

phoenix_stu 07-17-2007 11:03 AM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
My pleasure. Glad to help.

fox222 07-17-2007 07:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: al18ss



ORIGINAL: fox222

Ever had this happen?
OK WOW! [X(] So now I definitely want a TZ! That engine is no joke. Glad to hear the center shafts are holding up Fox, what are your plans for replacing that spur gear? I haven't seen metal or hardened spur gears for our cars and it seems like you're gonna need them.
2mm steel pins!

HeLLsGoD 07-17-2007 08:05 PM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
I just bought the GPM steering set w/ bearings, a set of foams, heatshrink tubing for the dogbones/shafts. Still waiting to buy 25% AT/VP race fuel and a superchassis. Hopefully everything by the end of the month. Cant wait to recieve them next week and revive my sleeping rs4.

Im still looking where to find a cheap HPI superchassis, $60+ on tower is alot. Anyone else know cheaper?

EDIT:
Also looking for the new HPI drift springs that just came out.. cant seem to find them

Cheers,

almtx3 07-18-2007 08:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: fox222
2mm steel pins!
I believe the pins that hold the wheel hex drive washers are 2mm correct? Is that what you used? This is a good tip!

almtx3 07-18-2007 08:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: HeLLsGoD
Im still looking where to find a cheap HPI superchassis, $60+ on tower is alot. Anyone else know cheaper?
HeLLsGoD, what do you think about that GPM 3mm chassis? I know its not the super chassis but it looks decent. The price is not bad either...;)

HeLLsGoD 07-18-2007 09:11 AM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
yeah i noticed its fairly cheap.. under $30US delivered to my door. I was actually considering it

[link]http://cgi.ebay.com.au/GPM-Alloy-3MM-Main-Chassis-fits-HPI-Nitro-RS4-3-III_W0QQitemZ170131395909QQihZ007QQcategoryZ34063Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem[/link]

Theres a couple of differences between the two though, one difference is the GPM one is just a straight plate , the proper HPI superchassis has bends on its side edges, making it hard to bend in the middle area. Notice how the stock 2.5mm chassis has a curve on its side edges, those curves make it alot harder to bend and keeps the chassis rigid.

Also the GPM one is heavier i think, and the vent holes are differently placed but still a good buy for under $30. If anyone buys let me know how it goes..

phoenix_stu 07-18-2007 09:12 AM

RE: Stronger drive shafts for RS4 3?
 
Sorry guys if this is a bit off topic.

Hey HeLLsGoD.... Let's see if you will answer this question. I am still not sure why you couldn't send me a reply to the PM that I sent you. I know if you had time to read it you could of at least been respectful and replied. I am not some little snot nose twit running around asking silly questions.

ANYWAY.

I just ordered a set of those 3racing shocks that you have. I noticed on your report of them that you were going to give and update on the performance on them. Maybe I missed it but I didn't see it.

Could you let me know how they are at performance? I would appreciate it.


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