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Ace Bogie 07-03-2003 04:00 PM

WWI scale combat plans
 
hey
I'am looking for some wwI kits or plans
i am also wondering if wwI combat has the same rules and requirements of wwII scale combat
:confused:
Any information will be very much appreciated

jmayle 07-05-2003 03:36 AM

WWI scale combat plans
 
Ace,

I have a couple of plans for WWI planes. Was there one that you had in mind or will any one that I have do? What format do you like? I do not think that anyone is flying bird from the WWI era but do not let that stop you from starting something new.

Bob

Demon 07-05-2003 01:01 PM

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There was quite a bit of traffic on WWI Combat about a year ago, but it seems to have fizzled out. There's a LOT of info on the subject here:
http://www.rccombat.com/forum_2000/t...?TOPIC_ID=6739

HTH,
D

Ace Bogie 07-08-2003 01:09 AM

WWI scale combat plans
 
Jmayle,
do you have a SE5 plans.... If not what else do you have...
oh ya and Jpg will be fine..



Demon,
thanks for the site it anwserd alot of my questions that i had..

Which_way_is_up-RCU 07-08-2003 10:56 AM

WWI scale combat plans
 
Though that thread was probably more hot air then substance, Ed Kettler did in fact build a SE5 for WWI combat. He even wrote an article about the construction of the plane. You can find it on my web site TexasCombat in the workshop section.

Ace Bogie 07-08-2003 11:25 AM

cool
 
thanks for the website :D

Ace Bogie 07-09-2003 07:40 PM

To: Jmayle
 
Sorry i don't think so
but thanks for the offer

dmheil 07-17-2003 12:36 AM

WWI scale combat plans
 
Our club (www.charlescountyrc.org) and one down the road a bit (www.paxaero.com) have begun a WWI combat event. One of our club members designed some (7) WWI profile planes and the rules state how they will be built and what engine and so forth. Our first "combat" sortee is rapidly approaching and should be fun. Take a look at the web sites for some ideas. i'll post a picture of some of the planes shortly.

dmheil 07-17-2003 12:42 AM

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Here are 6 of the planes lined up. 3 SE5's, one Fultz (sp?) One Fokker F7 and 1 albatros. These planes fly great on a .25. Lots of fun.

Ace Bogie 07-17-2003 12:57 PM

WWI scale combat plans
 
Wow
planes looks good when I first looked at them i didn't even think they were profile wow
thanks for the web sites i'll have to check them out eh.
thanks again! :D

thojo 07-17-2003 02:16 PM

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I would consider changing the paint schemes on the SE5's to vary them up abit. Its common to take your eyes briefly off your plane in combat to search for targets, and I bet somebody reacquires the wrong one and flys theres into the ground.

These are very cool though, look forward to a full report and pictures of the contest. Good Luck!

Ace Bogie 07-17-2003 08:56 PM

WWI scale combat plans
 
What size of scale are they..... 1/7 ?????
can you get the measurements off the se5.A

dmheil 07-17-2003 10:18 PM

WWI scale combat plans
 
I have no idea of the actual scale but the wingspan is 38 inches on the Fokker D7. The wingspan on the Nieuport is slightly greater due to extended wing tips. Did you get a chance to read the "rules" from the Charlescountyrc.org page?

dmheil 07-18-2003 01:20 AM

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Here is a picture of one of the planes before covering.

jchumley 07-18-2003 11:19 AM

WWI scale combat plans
 
The CCRCC WWI combat planes are about 1/8 scale. I am building a Spad VII now and having a ball. Should have it in the air next week. I understand a Fokker DR1 has been added. Anyone know when the plans will be available?

BTW, At this scale, a Handley page bomber would still have about a 12.5' wingspan! Is anyone in CCRC building one of those?

JWC

dmheil 07-18-2003 11:27 AM

WWI scale combat plans
 
I know a bomber is in the works but I don't know the size. I heard it would be a twin .40.


I have the Fokker D7 flying and a Nieuport 28 almost ready to cover. These planes fly great and you can slow them down to almost walking speed for landing. not to mention the TT .25 is real easy on fuel. The Nieuport will have the OS .25.

Ace Bogie 07-18-2003 03:35 PM

WWI scale combat plans
 
sorry if i am wrong but are you guys saying spad has plans for www1 combat planes....
i was gona make a se5a out of coro shouldn't be to hard to get together

hope it will fly :rolleyes:

thojo 07-18-2003 04:53 PM

WWI scale combat plans
 
Do you guys offer kits and spars to non-members?

dmheil 07-18-2003 04:58 PM

WWI scale combat plans
 
Not really. This was done as a "fun" thing between the two clubs. The LHS put together a wood pack for all the materials and the club had lasercut ribs made. I know as of a week or so ago, 80 sets (enough for 80 planes) of laser cut ribs were sold by the club. I would suggest that you contact the CCRCC president (go to www.charlescountyrc.org) for additional information.

Ace Bogie 07-19-2003 11:16 PM

s.e5A
 
hey dmheil can you get some close up pictures of the se5a planes that you guys use for me... it will help me out alot
oh ya can you also get the measurements for me to..
thanks :)

dmheil 07-20-2003 11:29 PM

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Ace,

Sent you a PM.

David

Ace Bogie 07-21-2003 12:02 AM

thanks!
 
yep i got it

thanks for all the help..... :)
i am gonna try and make a none profile pfalz d-7, i will probilly use coro to make it..

i was wondering how fast does the profile of the ww1 type of plane fly..

thanks again. :cool:

dmheil 07-21-2003 12:11 AM

WWI scale combat plans
 
They're actually pretty fast. We're using 10x3 props to slow them down a bit. The designer did a great job on these planes and they are very forgiving. They slow down to a walk for landing, take off in 10 feet!

First scheduled combat between the clubs in August 9th. I intend to have both video and stills available after that time.

My second plane is comimg alone nicely, I have made a couple of modifications to the basic design. I used HS-81's on the wings for the ailerons so I can program in differential and I made a cavity within the profile fuse to hold my radio equipment and battery. I am using a NiMh 720 and it is a lot smaller than a standard NiCd 600. I also got a small JR receiver for it.

All up weight is just over three pounds, dry.

CCRC1 07-21-2003 01:25 AM

WWI scale combat plans
 
If you are looking for a fun club project this is a great one. Easy to build, inexpensive and a breeze to fly. One very important key to success, keep the die hard combat members away from the planning and development of the project. I started this project to get members involved in a fun, easy event that anyone with basic flight skills could participate in. I learned very quickly that the die hard combat folks will insist on high performance, high dollar, lightning fast, fire breathing, screaming airplanes. That is exactly what drives away the majority of the members in the club because they feel they cannot "compete". I have about 6 of these combat flyers in my club and I went many rounds with them about the guidelines we developed. We use a .25 plain bushing engines (no modifications of any kind) (this alone almost put them into respiratory arrest), no composite material, 10x3 or 9x5 APC or Master airscrew props, 10% nitro fuel, no deviations from the plans etc....
I held my ground with these guys who insisted that the airplanes would not fly with a .25 bushing engine. Well, the results are I have almost two dozen members who would never even consider building anything from plans, building these airplanes and having a blast. We proved our "Combat Veterans" wrong as these planes take off in about 10 feet and I fly mine at half throttle for for most of the flight. They are gentle and land like a feather.
This is a great club project but take my advice, don't call it "combat". I refer to the event in my club as the "Dawn Patrol Games". Keep it simple and easy and you will get a ton of participation. The concept of this event is to take a low performance airplane and use a little strategy and a lot of luck to cut a streamer. Our events are not individual based, but team based. Your team(squadron) will be given a mission to complete so you cannot just run around the sky trying to cut a streamer, you must work together to complete the mission. Your squadron may be required to to protect an observation balloon or run with a bomber to allow it to complete a bombing mission. The more you put in fun stuff and keep out the "winning is everything" mindset the more club members you will draw into the event. There are already plenty of regular combat events for the die hard combat pilots to participate in, keep this one for the average joe pilot who just wants an event that gives everybody a chance of succeeding.

jchumley 07-25-2003 12:31 PM

WWI scale combat plans
 
I am finishing up this SPAD VII to fly this weekend.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/sh...=20766&thumb=1

I moved the ailerons to the upper wings for a more scale appearance. According to the club gurus, they should be less efficient on the upper wing but from what I have seen, they should work just fine. I also altered the landing gear to look more scale using shock corded dummy strus and axle fairing.

JWC


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