So, I own a Rustler VXL.
I also own a few toys that barely can be classified as Drifters. HOWEVER. Has anyone actually tried drifting with a Rusty or any other off road RC?

I just made some PVC wheels, I'll try and fit them on the rustler.

One more question, if it isn't a touring car, and it's 2WD, is it actually called Drifting? Or powersliding xD?

EDIT: Ok, so I think I've found a pretty good 2WD drifting platform as of now, check it out (Attempt #2):
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Thanks,
XO

with 2wd all you can do in rc is spin out.... i wouldnt consider that drifting.... a drift is a controlled sideways movement. in rc it is impossible to make a 2wd stay in a drift cos u wouldnt have enough forward momentum to keep the car sliding but in control as the rear would be slipping all over hte place. so no, i would say powersliding. and it isnt even that much fun cos think about it... how many donuts can u make before getting bored?? thats all that u will accomplish with 2wd rc.... btw, that was from experience, and i tried tuning it to make the front have better traction to keep the nose where i wanted and i tried softening the back springs to make the car shft weight better, and i dont know what i didnt try!!! but it doesnt work. so dont waste time and money trying unless u really want to experiment with the idea. secondly, i dont know of anyone making an offroad drifter.... it could probably work but somehow i dont think so. chassis too high off the ground, springs too long, too much weight shift. but always a better experiment than the 2wd car

it could probably work but somehow i dont think so. chassis too high off the ground, springs too long, too much weight shift. but always a better experiment than the 2wd car

Aha! But that's the beauty of it! I'll tamper it until I get it right

And guess what? IT DRIFTS! Some powersliding, but I can actually sustain a drift for about 4 seconds (I don't have ANY room downstairs to get any more time :P)
I'll post a video soon!

u managed to control the rusty in a drift??? nice yes do post a video as this will be interesting. the most i can say is probably try to harden the front springs abit so as to keep the nose steady and of course lower it as much as it is possible. btw can u post how it is set up and what kind of power unit u have and so on?? that way maybe someone has some idea and can give you some other tuning option maybe it works out better. post the vid as well though. im dying to see this now.

First, RWD drift is perfectly possible, but it requires alot more work to get it to work right. The big problem is that RC's dont have the right... well much anything to do it naturally, so it requires some modification, including a massive boost in front end weight, and extreme turning angle. Some dude around here made one work VERY well, should look it up.

As far as the off roader drifting, not unbelievable. Infact very possible you just gata set it up right. Golden rule is, with enough enough time and effort, any 4wd rc can drift just fine.

but thats the point, an rc rwd car would not be considered drifting as technically a drift is all four tyres slipping in a controlled manner. if he added weight and lots of steer angle then his front would not be slipping, it would b going round a corner with the wheels at different speeds. if this guy's front tyres are slipping too then please pass on a link to a vid cos id love to see this. seriously, not trying to be an ass, just trying to set a difference between powersliding and drift.

I'll post a few videos as soon as possible, but the video I just took has a TERRIBLE angle, you can't really see the drifting.

Also, the front wheels are slipping too. But the faster it goes, the easier it slips. Also, I'm doing this on carpet to reduce the wear on the tires.

Thanks for the comments, I appreatiate it

Well, heres attempt #1! I understand that many are powerslides, I'm working on it, i'm working on it! The front tires are still having a little trouble sliding, however, it is doing much better than stock drifting. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDjbCT3_Dtc

-XO

looks to me that space is the issue not the drifting find yourself a parking lot and forget about tyre wear, make yourself another set to be ready for action yes it does look like it is drifting. carpet does make it seem like the front wheels arent slipping but i guess u could go a bit higher on the drive ratio to get a bit more slide out of it.

Exactly what I was thinking :P Actually, my father owns the highschool gym, I'll get enough space there, and not have to worry about wear!

lol, good idea. let us know how it goes. better yet, film it

As soon as I can! Also, I'm adding a little more weight to the front. </p>

probably a good idea. add it slowly if possible, that way you can see what it is doing and regulate.

Ok, so I think I've found a pretty good 2WD drifting platform as of now, check it out (Attempt #2): 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2oILcczsDM



-XO

RWD Drifting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZR_tdtUMKw

Also, by your definition, CS drifting isnt real drifting either then. Its all semantics really. To me, if your not driving straight, your drifting. Powerslides are just a different type of drifting, and therye exactly that, a power slide. If you want to be technical, my driving style is nothing but a string of well timed, very accurate power slides, as i use power and speed to maintain my angles. You cant say its not drifting because its not done a specific way. Thats like saying somethings not rally because the course is only street. The fact that he's controlling it with his front end should mean squat, but rather the fact that he's accurately maintaining a sideways angle through sweeps and around turns.

I have seen that video, it was quite inspirational
So then, does my video demonstrate a drift? :P

Icedude1989 You got it the wrong way around. If you ever go to a drift event you will see that Every drift car is rwd. The most popular drift cars are ; nissan 240sx, nissan s15 silvia, 350z, skyline R32 and R34 (both skylines come stock with awd and for drifting are converted to rwd), mustang, mazda rx-7 rx-8. If you google these cars you will find out that they are RWD. I own a 240sx and drift it every other weekend in the summer so I know my stuff.

Thanks BlueShande Zero for posting my Rwd drifting vid. For those interested I will be finishing another vid with many angles. Oh and the car has a sweet R32 body on it now!

XeroedOut Your rustler will be a bit harder to drift then a touring car because the motor is mounted on the rear of the truck. For Rwd drifting you want as much weight on the front of your car as possible. My drifter has all the electronic mounted as far up to the front as possible plus a 310gr weight on the bumper! What you should try is mounting at least 300gr on the front bumper. You will need to stiffen up your front springs. Also max out your steering angle as much as possible!

Let us know how it goes!

Jake

<span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ">(nissan 240sx, nissan s15 silvia, 350z, skyline R32 and R34) you are mentioning bodies, not cars... plus, if u look at the chassis, they are all 4wd. yokomo exclusively make drift chassis... have never seen a rwd yok. same goes for all the other drift spec chassis on the market. i admit on being wrong about the rwd not being able to drift part, but i will not agree that the most used method is rwd. maybe in real life, but in rc it isnt. and we are talking about rc in this case.</span>

@RC Flight - I agree completely. As of right now, the rear of my Rustler weighs in at about 3lbs, the front at about 3.5lbs.
I am now in the process of stiffining the front springs, and I'll see what I can do for the steering angle, personally, I think it's almost enough already.

To everyone else - I'll do some fine tuning, and post another video soon!

EDIT: Unfortunately, the Rustler VXL does NOT have an ackerman steering adjustment, I can't adjust the steering angle at all, but I can adjust toe in and camber.
What do you think will be the best toe in and camber for drifting?

btw, many times adjusting steering angle means shaving off knuckles or where knuckles hit on the sides of the body and so on not just adjusting on what is available.

Yeah, I know. But I don't want my rusty just for drifting :P I still want it mostly for offroad, I don't want to mod something that I can't change afterwards.

Icedude What RC drifting is for most guys is to try and get their RC cars to drift and look like a real car. This is why the CS (counter steer) mods are getting very popular nowadays (make the car drift and look like a rwd does in real life).

Here is what wikipedia has to say:
Drifting refers to a driving technique and to a motorsport where the driver intentionally over steers, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels through turns, while maintaining vehicle control and a high exit speed. A car is drifting when the rear slip angle is greater than the front slip angle prior to the corner apex, and the front wheels are pointing in the opposite direction to the turn (e.g. car is turning left, wheels are pointed right or vice versa), and the driver is controlling these factors.

That is the tru definition of drifting. If you don't need a hard opposite lock to slide through a turn, you're power sliding; if you need it, you're drifting.. These are definitions for real life and I dont see why they would change for RC. If you watch rally cars race, you will see that they are awd (most) and slide around corners will all tires loosing traction, this is a controlled power-slide. Your next question I assume would be "why does my Sprint say DRIFT on the box?", well who would buy the car if it said "Sprint Powerslider"... lol

Im not trying to start an argument or anything. Im not trying to change what you believe.. I have no problem with what you believe but this is just what I go by.. Feel free to disagree but this is what most guys go by.

Jake

Yeah, I agree. Drifting is a pretty broad term if you ask me.

Xeroedout

Rustlers do have a good amount of steering angle (more then most onroad cars have). It might not have enough angle to drift long sweepers but it should be enough to get you drifting. You can get rid of some Ackerman by setting in more toe-in. Running toe-in makes your car more squrley tho (rear end will try to come out on you easier).. I run a good amount of toe out on my rwd. I say don't bother with camber yet. Camber is more of a finall adjustment, it is used to adjust how much of the tires contact the surface. The more contact the tire has then the more traction it will produce.

Jake

Got drift?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rec6S...e=more_related

Wish I could found the video I saw a few years back with some wicked beats.....