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Old 07-10-2004, 03:49 AM
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I built my ABS wheels today for the grand total of 4$. It only cost that much cuz I had to buy the whole 10' long pipe of ABS. I should cut these wheels and sell them on e-bay for a few bucks a piece.... Anyway...

I ended up blowing out both of my rear shocks today. I'm not sure if they're 'blown' but they sure are leaking. I'm not sure why this has happened but one might speculate that the drifting and super hard tires are putting a lot of banging on my shocks.

I want to know what kind of suspension changes to make to get the perfect drift. My car can enter drifts pretty easily using hard throttle and full steering but changing directions is not crisp and easy, it pushes a lot. In fact, the "grippy" performance is totally crappy and I can barely hang on to turns unless I'm going really slow.

The local dude at the hobby shop told me my TC3 wasn't made for drifting, that I need some "high traction" shocks. Um... these are RC toys with some oil and some damping washer ... it ain't exactly rocket science...

So basically, I'd like to ask you guys if:
1) Did drifting mess up your rear suspension too?
2) How did you set up yoru suspension to get rid of a lot of pushing (or is it inevitable w/ the ABS tires) <--- I can barely complete a circle with a 4-5' radius as opposed to being able to do this with 2-3' radius w/ sticky tires.
3) What are the differences in suspension from sticky tires to slippy tires.
4) I want my car to snap drift left... SNAP! drift right...

Thanks guys
this is a lot of fun.
Old 07-10-2004, 09:36 AM
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Default RE: Suspension changes for DoRRIIIIFFFFFTOOOOO

was you supspension hard or soft?
Old 07-11-2004, 03:37 AM
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Stock Racer Kit setup.
I'm assuming that's soft.
Old 07-21-2004, 01:46 AM
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Soften your suspension as much as you can. I run very soft springs and VERY light oil (the Yokomo kit doesn't even come with oil!). I set my camber to about 1 degree all the way around to help keep the ABS flat thrugh the turns, but your body roll will be fairly mild when your tires can't exert much lateral "grip" (thats not entirely accurate, but I'll leave the coefficient-speak out of this one, its mostly academic anyway). Anyway, so about 1 degree to keep the tires flat while sideways, and to help keep the edges of the tires from snagging on the road surface.

Beyond that, you'll want to play with your diffs until you find settings that make it easier for you. Ideally you would want a ball diff in the rear for its LSD characteristics and adjustability, and probably a 1-way diff in the front, but anything will work if you experiment.

Drifting does "mess" anything up. Actually, its a lot easier on your car than running with normal rubber tires.

The understeer you are talking about is going to be a simple fact of life with plastic tires until you learn to control the car with throttle and not so much steering. "Snapping" from one side to the other comes with practice, not really so much setup. Its a matter of anticipating the car's response and setting up for the next turn well in advance, just like it is with real drifting.
Old 07-28-2004, 08:20 AM
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Default RE: Suspension changes for DoRRIIIIFFFFFTOOOOO

Seems the local dude at your hobby shop knows sweet F.A about Drifting, I run a TC3, 40wt front/back, losi white springs (front) losi orange springs (rear) and never had any probs.

0-1° camber all round, 27T PK2 Pro slightly lower than stock gearing & 5 year old 2000's and I get 15 minute runs per pack!!!

The TC3 is perfect for Drifting, never listen to a salesman

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Old 07-28-2004, 06:06 PM
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Yes - I have a TC3 and a Colt10 (Both with brushless motors) - Drift both using PVC pipe on my tires and they are fantastic. I am getting a Micro RS4 with brushless motor to setup as a drifter next.
Old 01-19-2005, 02:19 AM
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BUMP. I thought there is some useful information here.

BTW - donoman...yes, it's me, Kensaku (from BARF)...[8D]
Old 03-03-2005, 12:05 AM
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how do u adjust ur diferential settings?
Old 03-03-2005, 01:34 AM
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hey i run a tc4 with stock springs but i have coil over adjusters and have them extremely stiff. also i can turn around in about a 3' radius, maybe its just the car but i can. anyways good luck. and listen to your fellow drifters NOT SALESMEN TRYING TO MAKE BUISNESS!
Old 03-12-2005, 03:03 PM
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i have a tmayia 414m2 do i want my settings to be soft or hard for drifting i all ready have a front one way and a ball diff in the rear... how should i set up my sway bars and suspinsion?????
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Old 03-24-2005, 01:47 PM
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My setup is pretty simple. Medium HPI springs in the rear and Yokomo Softs in the front. Perfect for drifting! WEeeeeee
My S15

And new FC3S
Old 03-24-2005, 03:21 PM
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