RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

Well that was a great expression of opinion but thats all it is, your opinion. I dont agree at all about your Yok comments. Out of the box the Yok's will slide yes, but sliding and drifting are 2 different things. I still found that Oil dampers all round, solid spool in the back and a front one way are needed to make the Yok a real drift machine.

As for whats huge in Japan. Well yes the Yokomo's are common but any real Jap drifter will tell you that the TA03F Pro is where its at although its slowly being banned in alot of comps because it just drifts so well and they say it gives drivers an advantage :)

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

Every "REAL" drifter I spoke to (and I'm not exactly sure what would qualify you as a "real" drifter as opposed to a fake one) uses and LOVES Yoks. The TA03F is big in Europe. NOT Japan. And if it's banned, I'd assume that they'd still use it as a personal drift car and just keep the Yok for comps. Not seeing that either.
That being said, it's still one of the most popular chassis in Amercian Drift Comps AND in Japan Drift comps. That's not so much my opinion as everyone's reality.
Secondly, explain to me the difference between a "real" drift machine and a...I guess fake one. Maybe the competitions I see or am involved in are fake. Maybe all the real drifters are in Aussie. I mean, you guys do get cooler cars than we do (i.e. most JDM versions of stuff), so sure, you'd have an argument there. But, I'm not exactly sure as to the difference between real drifters and fake ones.
And I'm not saying Yok is the BEST. What I'm saying is it is that it's more popular than many other chassis (yes, even the TA03F that is so good, it's banned) and that it is the only RTR kit that will drift out the box without requiring any hop-ups to compete. And those are all based on experience and observation. And, I never said slide...did I? Wait. I think...mmmhhmmm no, I said drift out the box. Not slide. So, that's like saying that tacos and burgers are different when I mentioned no tacos. I don't get that.
And floppsy, I know this'll probably get out of hand here, but I'm not saying that the TA03F isn't great. Heard great things about it. Sure it's the shizzz. Blah blah blah. but I can only go off of what Ive driven, what people I know and talk to have driven. And I do have one buddy who wants to try the TA03F, but I don't know anybody that uses it here or in the land of 1000 rice patties. I don't know any Asians that use it. I don't know any soldiers stationed over there that have been into RC for years that use it. I don't know any of the top US rc Drifters that use it (cuz none of them do). So, I can't agree with something I've never seen perform. I can only go with what works. And Yok works.
And really, if you want to, call the TA03F the best and I won't dispute it. But all this badmouthing of Yok is crap, plain and simple.

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

Look at how these nitro guys come and swarm the forum, misleading a new drifter. Nitro cars can't stand the heat and most of the times arn't the best when drifting. I always hear that a nitro will get too hot because of the charicteristics of drifting. Nitro's also drift tooooo fast for me. I could get an electric to have more style than nitro drifters. And the best part about electric is that you can focus more on how your car drifts, and not have to worry about when the clutch will engage, or when you hit your powerband.
To me electric drifting is way better then nitro. JMO:D

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

Why do they sell the drift chasis then? For suckers?

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

TA03f IS A GREAT CAR, But the Yoks are DRIFT ready right out of the package... Ofcourse everything gets better with upgrades, but right out the box, the yok can slide, drift whatever you wanna call it, just fine.
Would I invest any money in a TA03 thats being banned, not if I planned on being competitive.

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

I'm not a pro, but can't pretty much ANY 4WD electric with ABS drift alright? Obviously some will be better than others, but from what i've read, guys seem to be happy with quite a variety of cars, TT-01, TL-01, TC4, XXX-S, Various Yok kits.

I always had the opinion that my TT-01 was the learning car... it's easy and because it's almost always purchased in kit form, you learn alot by building/tuning it. Each hop up you can get a feel for how it changes the car and because you built it you can better understand the role each part plays.

I know that "pros" must have some opinions more "pro" than mine... but if you're new, you'll learn and enjoy anything, if you're a "pro" you know what you like, but that doesn't mean it's the same thing another "pro" likes.

All of that being said i'm interested in my next car being a Yokomo... either that or possibly the new XXX-S Drift RTR coming out... i'd like to try a belt driven and love the idea of a sealed belt setup.

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

sealed belt is awsome, my HPI doesn't like all the tiny rocks in Arizona...

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

Neon_guy,

I think you took my comments WAY out of context.

1. Yes I'm aware you said "DRIFT" plenty of times in your post but I dont call what the Yok does out of the box drifting. It just slides around nice (notice I said "I dont consider". doesnt mean you or your mates wont have a different opinion, it just means that I may have a tad of an elitist view which I should probably cut out when expressing my opinion.)

2. A real drift machine to me is a chassis that is perfectly tweaked and balanced.

3. Saying that you dont know any "Asians" that run a TA03F is like saying that you know every Asian person in the world. Now I know that aint true coz I know a few that love and run TA03F's a plenty.

Now I could keep going and pull apart your last post even more like you did to mine but I dont think this is the right place for that since we have already hijacked this thread enough.

I def think you have a valid point in that the Yok's are geared towards drifting out of the box alot more than rival products like the HPI STAGE D crap for instance (and the Tamiya Drift kits too) but I still question whether a kit being very common makes it the best which is the way I took your original post.

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

I do not own a drift machine, so my input is limited..... but from common sense the way the market works, What is more popular is not always better.... people in general are lazy... they like short cuts... If a rc car says drifter kit, the majority of people getting into drifting are going to say ok that is the one I should buy because its made for drifting... when the only difference could be a matter of wheels, or the body shell....

I have nitro' no electrics yet... I agree that electrics are way better to drift in a sense of with nitro's you don't get that nice smooth sidwayz phat drift... even with the stage d kit's...

which are not made for suckers..... but are made for those who do not want to switch to electrics but stilll want to be so called drifting...

if you watch the stage d vid's yes the car does drift... but watch the stage d, and then watch a electric drift that has been setup properly...

the stage d is moving so fast you can't even hardly enjoy the sublime view of the rear being kicked out in a control slide...

Plus I have hard enough time keepin my nitro's in tune and top running condition without the constant abuse of hi rev rpm's that are the nature of drifts...


In my OPINION hands down from what I have watched of videos' and seen pics and read post of I think the best drifters out of the box are the following not in any order

Sprint 2

TA-04 and 05

Associated tc4 and 5

with this being said any car can drift with proper setup.. its just a matter of if you want something that will drift out of the box or do you wan't something you have to build up and add all kinds of bad ***** parts to make your own ultimate drift machine.....

oh yeah lets not forget one of the most imporatant aspects of this ( the driver's skill)

sorry I just felt like ranting

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

sputnikxxx I think you said it perfectly in your first paragraph. That pretty much sums up my thoughts.

Your second last line is right on the mark too. Drifting is 30% car and 70% driver!! :)

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

drifting IS more driver than car...BY FAR. And Floppsy, I'm not totally disagreeing with and I'm not trying to say I know EVERY Asian. I even agree that what is the most popular may not always be "the best". I'm not even saying Yok is the BEST. I was just saying it's the most common and most capable out of the box. However, as to it's quality, while it is popular, it's the most popular amoung the pros that I know. The tt01 and sprint2 are FAR LESS money than the Yok, so as a whole, considering that most noobs can't afford a Yok, I'm sure that those 2 cars will outnumber Yoks. But in competition, where people invest the money and can afford better options, I see more Yoks than anything else. That to me means that they're doing something right. I mean, the TA03F isn't banned here (that I know of). People just don't use it. Here, Yok is pretty much the top dog. And, again, I mean in competition.
And imo, a perfect balance is a balance that compliments the driver and allows him/her to achieve great drifts. Case in point, I do better with teh RTD springs and stage 1 shocks on my MR4TC than I do with the stage 1 springs. The springs are very stiff and don't have much give on concrete. Now, I'm getting BETTER with them because I'm getting used to them. But, I don't think you can have a perfect machine in a sport that is so varied on driver performance and style points. Ben can drive my car perfectly in any setup I chose. and he can outdrive a LOT of people using my car. His car, however, has a different setup than mine and he's still amazing. That's just my $.02

Oh yeah. Drift kits aren't for suckers. They just take some of the guess work out of it. I don't know what Yoks' touring chassis has so I can't compare that. but I think the sprint2D has oil filled shocks and stage D tires as opposed to the regular touring that...doesn't have those shocks or tires. Normally, there's not a huge diff between touring kits and drifting kits. IN some cases, it's just tires and a body. You really have to check and compare depending on the kit you choose.

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

just get a tt01 or a sprint 2

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

started with a TT-01D and it's a very good drifter...i think i already know how to drift after a month of practice(i've compared my drifting to the pros vid-not even close but i can drift) :)
Neon_guy, i agree with you, YOK is popular with asians and i'm planning to buy 1. what is your motor & esc combination?

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

I'm currently running a 19t motor with a Yok esc. I used to run a 35t but I upped it for comps.

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

i bought a 19T peak dynasty motor with a 70T/22T gear, works great! was suppose to buy a 78T gear but our local hobbytown didn't have 1...

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

i say get the yokomo. you'll be very happy with it. parts are easy to get via the internet. upgrades are also easy to get.

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droppedgmc,
could you please direct me to internet site re:yokomo parts, thanks. what upgrades did you do to your mr-4tc?

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

http://www.genkidoridori.com/
http://www.oamurai.com/
and do a search on ebay "yokomo sd" or yokomo drift"

my mr4tc sp is fully upgraded. i will also have a mr4tc sd in the mail soon that is fully upgraded. i'll have pics in my profile soon af that.

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tnx droppedgmc

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

I cant find the TA03 anywhere, does anybody know where i can buy it online?

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

theres some on ebay. there are some that are brand new on there

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

Any where else other than ebay?

RE: Yokomo D1 Drift Kit
 

They're discontinued, so Ebay or the highway. :D