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DANDthekid 09-06-2007 02:31 AM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 


ORIGINAL: peetiewonder

Dude how tight your diffs are really depends on your car setup and driving style and tires. I have found that for abs having my front tighter than my rear like a racing setup helps to eleminate that slop, and the car also drifts really well with rubber based rp-d drift tires. I used to run my rear tight with the front loose but i like this setup better. it all depends how u drive.
I have locked them once, then I unlocked them, but now it drifts just fine for me, (I have a Sprint 2 (non-drift)

Foxy 09-06-2007 07:46 AM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 

ORIGINAL: smaxx3.3

This needs to be a sticky NOW, loads of info in here that are asked in different threads 3-5 times a week. who do we need to talk to too get this sticky-ed? (i think thats a word lol)
ME (amongst others)! I'll see what I can do. No promises. It needs a fair bit of editing before it's ready for a sticky, but I will be happy to help with that.

AresROC 09-06-2007 12:32 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
Thanks, Great Info.

I currently run a TT-01 with Stock Motor + Stock Pinion (low gearing) with ABS tires so I don't have much problem with the TT-01's bevel gear open differentials, yet. Once I get a 19T motor and a larger pinion I should be able to access more throttle control instead of spinning out too often. I plan to pack grease/thread-lock/tissue into the differential and see what difference it could make. The ball-diffs would have to wait for the TA-05...

GTB 09-06-2007 03:44 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
I have a TA05 and my rear diffs arn't locked, but there tighten a far bit down. But like peetie said, it depends on your driving style.:D

Gex_61 09-06-2007 06:44 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 

ORIGINAL: azzman


•For drifting, electric rc cars are better than nitro models. It is easier to control the throttle of an electric car during a drift. Nitro rc cars would probably burn out the clutch and overheat the engines if used for drifting.
If you say something like this then please say IMO or similar because this is not fact but only your opinion as you obviously have not tried nitro drifting...

I agree, change it.


There are two types of drifting.

One is where you are still useing rubber tires with some kind of grip. Whether it's nitro or electric you need a power source strong enough to lose grip and drift. This type of drifting is done at a much faster pace and requires more skill and setup. It can also be more expensive since you have to pay for a strong engine/motor and special tires.

The other is where you use abs or pvc pipe for tires. This gives you a ballet-like style of drifting. The car moves at much slower speeds and is very predictable. Not much setup is required and you don't need too fast of a motor. This type is probably more popular because it's cheap and easy.
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I would also like to add....

Since the car wont be going anywhere fast (plastic tires) you should get a heatsink and fan because it is the only way your motor will stay cool. Pavement can get hot!

I think you should get everything you need at the start and just learn how to drive it. Don't buy a 27t motor because you are a beginner at it. Just go strait to a 19t motor. I have drifted with both and it's much nicer with the 19t. It might actually be harder to drift with a 27t. I've never heard of anyone drifting with a 35t motor, it's hard to imagine that's even possible.

As far as setup, I drift with an almost stock xxx-s rtr2 and abs pipe. It's plastic, belt driven, no locked diffs, pretty much stock exept for the electronics and it drifts just as good as any of the videos I have seen.

Brakethenupgrade 09-06-2007 08:46 PM

RE: The Beginners Guide to Drifting!
 
Very helpful, I just bought a sprint 2 drift as my lovely spirit couldn't drift at all :(

magnat 09-07-2007 12:16 AM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
Really???
Hell Wack Some Polypipe onto your sprint 2 and you'll soon go Slideways!

I love the Sprint 2 for drifting... just dont like the AI ESC's they use, I changed my LRP unit for a M-Troniks RV11 and Man it Slides and races better then ever!

GTB 09-07-2007 03:04 PM

RE: The Beginners Guide to Drifting!
 


ORIGINAL: Brakethenupgrade

Very helpful, I just bought a sprint 2 drift as my lovely spirit couldn't drift at all :(
Yeah try ABS tires, they should get it sliding.[8D]

FireStriker 09-09-2007 01:55 AM

RE: The Beginners Guide to Drifting!
 
First of all great article you did good and helped alot of beginners,

but i noticed in the first couple notes you wrote

"It is recommended that you use a shaft drive rc car rather than a belt" driven transmission for your drifter.
The shaft drive provides good throttle response, where as the belt drive cars might give some backlash due to the belt design. "

It is true that you should let beginners start with shaft due to easier maintanince,

but it is completly false that shaft has better throttle response,

almost every1 agrees that belts are smoother and therfor have better throttle response,

not to offend you r to start an arguement just to point somethjing out!

DANDthekid 09-09-2007 10:51 AM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
Opps!:D
Well I drift a Sprint 2 (non-drift) and the belt it just goes crazy on me iot is very choppy, every time I try to drive it there are more problems to prevent me from driving, so like I also said, "Do some research on a car you are looking into."

x2o 09-09-2007 12:50 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
is it the stock belt? You might try upgrading to a higher quality after-market belt to help out with that :D

DANDthekid 09-09-2007 10:54 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
thanks man, but I thing it has to do with how the chassis is, I have to go now, so I'll go more into depth later...

peetiewonder 09-09-2007 11:06 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
dawg have done the diff mod on your sprint 2? if not you should think about it. U cut open the enclosures around the front and rear diffs because one of the problems is that rocks get in there and then cant get out.

FireStriker 09-10-2007 01:22 AM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 


ORIGINAL: DANDthekid

Opps!:D
Well I drift a Sprint 2 (non-drift) and the belt it just goes crazy on me iot is very choppy, every time I try to drive it there are more problems to prevent me from driving, so like I also said, "Do some research on a car you are looking into."
Ru sure you did the diff mod,

cleaned and oiled the pully's,

proper tensioning??????

TIGER76 09-10-2007 05:26 AM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
They did an article in a recent issue of rcca about shaft vs belt and they found shaft had more of an instant repsonse to power and the belt were smoother delivering power so as far as drifting goes it depends on your style of drifting i much prefer the instant snap of power of shaft but can understand why people prefer belt driven too each to there own i reckon ;)

DANDthekid 09-10-2007 05:31 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
I havn't done the diff mod yet, first I want to get my car working again...

GTB 09-11-2007 02:15 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
Yeah my belt is smooth and easy on the response side.

Tusar 09-17-2007 05:37 AM

RE: The Beginners Guide to Drifting!
 
Just a few things i have found out when drifting

1. do not over tighten wheel nuts, this locks up the wheel and stuffs up your turning

2. also do not over tighten the screws on the A arms that need to twist, move

3. if using PVC, dont brake too late, i hit a wall yesterday and popped my wheel off, took me 20 mins to get it back on

correct me if im wrong

azzman 09-18-2007 04:00 PM

RE: The Beginners Guide to Drifting!
 


ORIGINAL: Tusar


3. if using PVC, dont brake too late, i hit a wall yesterday and popped my wheel off, took me 20 mins to get it back on

correct me if im wrong
Umm I think you will find that braking too late is a no no in any type of driving, with any type of tires...onroad, offroad, drifting......1:1 cars especially!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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I def recommend not to brake too late...(sorry to take the piss, I know you are trying to say that with PVC you have to brake earlier because they have the least grip, but it does sound funny...;))

DANDthekid 09-27-2007 05:40 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
Well I screwed up my Sprint 2 again, once I get into higher RPMs my pinion gear and spur gear disconnect...

Drift Noob 09-27-2007 07:03 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 


ORIGINAL: DANDthekid

Well I screwed up my Sprint 2 again, once I get into higher RPMs my pinion gear and spur gear disconnect...
Dude, that aint good.

If it is what you're talking about, couldn't you just lock-tite them together? (I think it's what your talking about).

hey man, thanks for the guide, I really enjoyed reading it, was a great help.

GTB 09-28-2007 04:55 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
When is this thing getting stickied? We should all PM the Admins and make em do it.:D

Drift Noob 09-28-2007 05:32 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 


ORIGINAL: GTB

When is this thing getting stickied? We should all PM the Admins and make em do it.:D
Being an administrator is hard work, give them time. They still have to finnish eating all the bribe food given to them by wanna-be moderators.

DANDthekid 09-30-2007 03:21 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
Yeah I have been trying to fix my car for months now...

Being a Admin is hard work...

GTB 09-30-2007 03:32 PM

RE: The Beginners Guild to drifting!
 
Ok how hard can it be. Just answer every question with NO!!:)


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