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dvdeath3x 02-17-2010 12:15 AM

Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 
so i notice on some other forums and youtube people mentioning that they are doing 'countersteer r/c drifting' and they talk like it's different from just turning on your r/c car and drifting. but after watching the videos, im not seeing anything different whatsoever? youre sliding around turns sideways maintaining control with your steering and throttle.

can anyone help me out here? what am i missing?

1ne8ighty2wo 02-17-2010 12:42 AM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 
I have this same question too. Countersteer is what you have to do in order to maintain a drift. Unless people just get good at flinging around a corner and hoping it ends up in the right spot

ryana89 02-17-2010 03:41 AM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 
Drifting is counter-steering? (or atleast requires it) Some people just dont have a clue what there on about[sm=75_75.gif]

cbr6fs 02-17-2010 05:25 AM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 
Countersteering in RC drifting refers to over driving the rear wheels so the car is fighting to stay straight no matter is the front wheels are turned or not.

It tends to look more realistic as it's comparable to having more power at the rear wheels than the front.


This is a good example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbw_y9g-OPc

These are 2 HB TC-D's running the same except the car in front has been setup to countersteer.


You can see that it carries more angle, is sideways more often and is slightly slower than the non countersteer car.
It's also more difficult to control and not really for beginners.



Cheers
Mark

1ne8ighty2wo 02-17-2010 07:13 PM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 
How do you set up a car to make it counter-steer drift? Like how is it different than normal?

Raguvian 02-17-2010 07:45 PM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 


ORIGINAL: 1ne8ighty2wo

How do you set up a car to make it counter-steer drift? Like how is it different than normal?

Put a bigger gear in the back. On a shaft driven car you would put a bigger bevel gear so the rear diff spins faster than the front one.

marshun 02-28-2010 08:02 AM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 


ORIGINAL: cbr6fs

Countersteering in RC drifting refers to over driving the rear wheels so the car is fighting to stay straight no matter is the front wheels are turned or not.

It tends to look more realistic as it's comparable to having more power at the rear wheels than the front.


This is a good example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbw_y9g-OPc

These are 2 HB TC-D's running the same except the car in front has been setup to countersteer.


You can see that it carries more angle, is sideways more often and is slightly slower than the non countersteer car.
It's also more difficult to control and not really for beginners.



Cheers
Mark
first i apologize for bumping this

but there isnt really that much of a difference if youre driving both styles correctly.
true that you can pretty much only drive sideways in a counter steer chassis. but asfar as the speed and angle comment, not true at all.

its definitely not something for beginners though


DR SNUGGLES 03-01-2010 06:13 AM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 
Wahhahahahahahahahahah
Funny.

Ye bud you right.
The rear wheel are running faster than the front.
I have been playing with this for the last few weeks and Dammmmmmmmm
A challenge.
Ye it is more realistice and requiers much more fine tuning on your chassis.
When you got the hang of it its awsome.

SDNitroGuy 03-02-2010 01:57 AM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 
I've noticed heavy front negative camber to severly decrease front tire patch to limit the "pull" of the front wheels is a pretty common adjustment too. I tried it on my TC3 with no other modifications and it definitely is much more "tail happy" but the front still tends to steer the car so I can't keep it locked all the time. I don't see how changing the rear bevel gear, if I remember correctly that's the big center one that directly contacts the motor pinion gear would do anything but slow the car down entirely in favor of
top speed? Someone care to explain? I'd rather not buy a whole new chassis to
try out this new "style"

braytonia 03-18-2010 11:59 PM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 

ORIGINAL: SDNitroGuy

I've noticed heavy front negative camber to severly decrease front tire patch to limit the "pull" of the front wheels is a pretty common adjustment too. I tried it on my TC3 with no other modifications and it definitely is much more "tail happy" but the front still tends to steer the car so I can't keep it locked all the time. I don't see how changing the rear bevel gear, if I remember correctly that's the big center one that directly contacts the motor pinion gear would do anything but slow the car down entirely in favor of
top speed? Someone care to explain? I'd rather not buy a whole new chassis to
try out this new "style"
Its actually the bigger gear in the rear diff case. The ring gear if im not mistaken... But some companys sell a kit called oversteer the rear. Ive been looking for one for my car but nothing.
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SDNitroGuy 03-19-2010 01:41 AM

RE: Countersteer drifting, is it any different?
 
I'm looking into trying to fit the Yokomo overdrive kit in my TC3, I've heard the front goes in no issue, the rear requires some DIY. I'm surprised AE never came out with different gearing you'd think it'd be useful for grip racers too


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