The official UNOFFICIAL thread of Tamiya Frog - LB strikes again!!
03-01-2007, 12:10 PM
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RE: The official UNOFFICIAL thread of Tamiya Frog - LB stikes again..
LB,
Thanks for posting my pic - that is pretty nice of you.
I will post a better pic of my original 1983 version, built on the Monster Beetle.
Things that I used from my Monster Beetle - 2.2 tires just like on the Lunchbox. Rear oil shocks. Rear skid Pad. Font steering knukles to hold the 2.2 tires.
If you have ever ran a frog in the day, the rear has a tendency to bottom out quite easily. This leads to the plates to bend a bit creating slop in the diffs and then - STRIP - the two pot metal diff gears strip created the most dreaded clicking sound.
Thorp use to make a ball diff for the Frog that was well worth the money - but are very hard to find these days.
I wonder if companies are going to remake some of the aftermarket stuff for the frog since it has been re-released. They might be missing out.
Good luck on the build - I compared my new manual to the old and in many cases it is EXACTLY the same - same picture, words, and advice. Gotta love Tamiya - why change a good thing.
The TamTech stuff is hot in Japan. They have whole race series and 5 different vehicles already for this class. The are 1/16 instead ot 1/18 for whatever reason - Tamiya just likes to be different. I like the quirky nature of Tamiya, but even I get disappointed with some of the ideas. I bought the Nitro Thunder when if first cam out because I thought what a great idea - a 1/10 buggy like the 1/8 scale without all the hassle. The vehicle was disappointing for the fact that it was an answer to a question that nobody is asking. The engine was anemic, there was little part support and it just never ran like I thought it should. I should have just got a TNX.
Oh well - live and learn.
Thanks for posting my pic - that is pretty nice of you.
I will post a better pic of my original 1983 version, built on the Monster Beetle.
Things that I used from my Monster Beetle - 2.2 tires just like on the Lunchbox. Rear oil shocks. Rear skid Pad. Font steering knukles to hold the 2.2 tires.
If you have ever ran a frog in the day, the rear has a tendency to bottom out quite easily. This leads to the plates to bend a bit creating slop in the diffs and then - STRIP - the two pot metal diff gears strip created the most dreaded clicking sound.
Thorp use to make a ball diff for the Frog that was well worth the money - but are very hard to find these days.
I wonder if companies are going to remake some of the aftermarket stuff for the frog since it has been re-released. They might be missing out.
Good luck on the build - I compared my new manual to the old and in many cases it is EXACTLY the same - same picture, words, and advice. Gotta love Tamiya - why change a good thing.
The TamTech stuff is hot in Japan. They have whole race series and 5 different vehicles already for this class. The are 1/16 instead ot 1/18 for whatever reason - Tamiya just likes to be different. I like the quirky nature of Tamiya, but even I get disappointed with some of the ideas. I bought the Nitro Thunder when if first cam out because I thought what a great idea - a 1/10 buggy like the 1/8 scale without all the hassle. The vehicle was disappointing for the fact that it was an answer to a question that nobody is asking. The engine was anemic, there was little part support and it just never ran like I thought it should. I should have just got a TNX.
Oh well - live and learn.
03-01-2007, 12:14 PM
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LB,
That box is an original Brat - do you have it? Or just got the picture for their site?
You can tell the difference in the car picture in the upper right. The MSC and the steering setup are the clue. The old Brat used equal length tierods to the wheels and the new one uses the same as the frog. Also the aluminum shocks are missing.
That box is an original Brat - do you have it? Or just got the picture for their site?
You can tell the difference in the car picture in the upper right. The MSC and the steering setup are the clue. The old Brat used equal length tierods to the wheels and the new one uses the same as the frog. Also the aluminum shocks are missing.
03-01-2007, 12:17 PM
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No, that's from the website, Tamiyabase.com
Yeah, MSC is a give away..
What do you mean by the equal length tie-rods.. ?! You mean the Frog does not?? Or?
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LB,
That box is an original Brat - do you have it? Or just got the picture for their site?
You can tell the difference in the car picture in the upper right. The MSC and the steering setup are the clue. The old Brat used equal length tierods to the wheels and the new one uses the same as the frog. Also the aluminum shocks are missing.
LB,
That box is an original Brat - do you have it? Or just got the picture for their site?
You can tell the difference in the car picture in the upper right. The MSC and the steering setup are the clue. The old Brat used equal length tierods to the wheels and the new one uses the same as the frog. Also the aluminum shocks are missing.
03-01-2007, 12:19 PM
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Thanks for stopping by! We need some real Frog expert here! I will be new to the chassis.. (not new to Tamiya.. had the original Hornet and Wild Willy, and built many many other kits for the LHS when I was young, in exchange for discount, LOL! So I actually got to built some of the cool ones, like HotShot, Bruiser, etc.)
For sure, it would be great if the aftermarket companies decide to re-introduce some of the hop-ups for the old classic!
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LB,
Thanks for posting my pic - that is pretty nice of you.
I will post a better pic of my original 1983 version, built on the Monster Beetle.
Things that I used from my Monster Beetle - 2.2 tires just like on the Lunchbox. Rear oil shocks. Rear skid Pad. Font steering knukles to hold the 2.2 tires.
If you have ever ran a frog in the day, the rear has a tendency to bottom out quite easily. This leads to the plates to bend a bit creating slop in the diffs and then - STRIP - the two pot metal diff gears strip created the most dreaded clicking sound.
Thorp use to make a ball diff for the Frog that was well worth the money - but are very hard to find these days.
I wonder if companies are going to remake some of the aftermarket stuff for the frog since it has been re-released. They might be missing out.
Good luck on the build - I compared my new manual to the old and in many cases it is EXACTLY the same - same picture, words, and advice. Gotta love Tamiya - why change a good thing.
The TamTech stuff is hot in Japan. They have whole race series and 5 different vehicles already for this class. The are 1/16 instead ot 1/18 for whatever reason - Tamiya just likes to be different. I like the quirky nature of Tamiya, but even I get disappointed with some of the ideas. I bought the Nitro Thunder when if first cam out because I thought what a great idea - a 1/10 buggy like the 1/8 scale without all the hassle. The vehicle was disappointing for the fact that it was an answer to a question that nobody is asking. The engine was anemic, there was little part support and it just never ran like I thought it should. I should have just got a TNX.
Oh well - live and learn.
LB,
Thanks for posting my pic - that is pretty nice of you.
I will post a better pic of my original 1983 version, built on the Monster Beetle.
Things that I used from my Monster Beetle - 2.2 tires just like on the Lunchbox. Rear oil shocks. Rear skid Pad. Font steering knukles to hold the 2.2 tires.
If you have ever ran a frog in the day, the rear has a tendency to bottom out quite easily. This leads to the plates to bend a bit creating slop in the diffs and then - STRIP - the two pot metal diff gears strip created the most dreaded clicking sound.
Thorp use to make a ball diff for the Frog that was well worth the money - but are very hard to find these days.
I wonder if companies are going to remake some of the aftermarket stuff for the frog since it has been re-released. They might be missing out.
Good luck on the build - I compared my new manual to the old and in many cases it is EXACTLY the same - same picture, words, and advice. Gotta love Tamiya - why change a good thing.
The TamTech stuff is hot in Japan. They have whole race series and 5 different vehicles already for this class. The are 1/16 instead ot 1/18 for whatever reason - Tamiya just likes to be different. I like the quirky nature of Tamiya, but even I get disappointed with some of the ideas. I bought the Nitro Thunder when if first cam out because I thought what a great idea - a 1/10 buggy like the 1/8 scale without all the hassle. The vehicle was disappointing for the fact that it was an answer to a question that nobody is asking. The engine was anemic, there was little part support and it just never ran like I thought it should. I should have just got a TNX.
Oh well - live and learn.
03-01-2007, 12:32 PM
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RE: The official UNOFFICIAL thread of Tamiya Frog - LB stikes again..
No the tie rods are not. The servo sits to the left so the left tie rod is shorter than the right. Turns better to the left than right or vice a versa - I will have to look at mine tonight and pst some pics of what I am talking about. If you look that the car picture in the upper right on your Frog box you can see what I am talking about.
Great car to build. You have fun - comes with bearings for the diff, but don't forget to get 8 - 5x11 bearings for the front and rear wheels.
The greatest part about the buggy are the trailing arms - who makes trailing arms? Keeps the buggy much more compact without the shock tower in the rear. The other is the inboard front springs - Uses a cantilever to operate the spring from the lower arm - too cool. Really hard to put on a oil dampered shock - but hey it looked great without the springs up front.
Great car to build. You have fun - comes with bearings for the diff, but don't forget to get 8 - 5x11 bearings for the front and rear wheels.
The greatest part about the buggy are the trailing arms - who makes trailing arms? Keeps the buggy much more compact without the shock tower in the rear. The other is the inboard front springs - Uses a cantilever to operate the spring from the lower arm - too cool. Really hard to put on a oil dampered shock - but hey it looked great without the springs up front.
03-01-2007, 12:37 PM
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Crap.. I think I might be out of bearings.. I maybe have like 4 of something left.. but I may have enough.. I usually have some inventory.. let me check tonight.. LOL!!
Yes, definitely like to see some more pics of your cars for sure!!
03-01-2007, 12:45 PM
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That's pretty sweet!!
Yeah, I am sure I will be taking some pics, as usual!!
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I expect some awesome action shots like this of your Frog EP!
Check it out:
I expect some awesome action shots like this of your Frog EP!
Check it out:
03-01-2007, 01:51 PM
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Try to make this thread as informative as possible about Frog... doing some research on what hop-ups are out there..
This one looks good.. pretty $$$, though.. the CVD... but it is to be expected.. it is made by Tamiya!
With 3Racing would sell one!!
03-01-2007, 02:02 PM
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Lunchboxer must really be into the vintage tamiya rc's. To bad a sand viper isn't a vintage. Thats a good thing for me though.
03-01-2007, 02:05 PM
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LOL, well, I grew up with the old school stuff..
If I want new design stuff, I would probably pick a Losi or AE for RWD buggy...
I might get a Losi XXX-T stadium truck, though...
03-01-2007, 02:07 PM
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That's it LB - Is that your sticker set? You get 30-50 for it on E-bay.
The CVD is worth it, just for the cool factor. I still put the rubber boot over mine. I am still looking for the CRP Front shock set - won't put it n my new one, but definately on my original.
The boot is the coolest thing. They are just starting to make cars with them again - Tamiya had them 20 years ago.
The CVD is worth it, just for the cool factor. I still put the rubber boot over mine. I am still looking for the CRP Front shock set - won't put it n my new one, but definately on my original.
The boot is the coolest thing. They are just starting to make cars with them again - Tamiya had them 20 years ago.
03-01-2007, 02:11 PM
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But those buggies are for racing. And you told me about a month ago that you're not very competitive..........
ORIGINAL: Lunchboxer
LOL, well, I grew up with the old school stuff..
If I want new design stuff, I would probably pick a Losi or AE for RWD buggy...
I might get a Losi XXX-T stadium truck, though...
LOL, well, I grew up with the old school stuff..
If I want new design stuff, I would probably pick a Losi or AE for RWD buggy...
I might get a Losi XXX-T stadium truck, though...
03-01-2007, 02:16 PM
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p2k2racer:
How is your Viper? By your name I guess that you have a stocker in it - a P2K2 to be exact.
Any hop-ups?
How is your Viper? By your name I guess that you have a stocker in it - a P2K2 to be exact.
Any hop-ups?
03-01-2007, 02:22 PM
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No no, not mine.. I just download it online.. just want to make this thread contains as much info about The Frog as possible, that's all.. ha!!
Yeah, might need to order some of them CVD next time.. [:@]
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That's it LB - Is that your sticker set? You get 30-50 for it on E-bay.
The CVD is worth it, just for the cool factor. I still put the rubber boot over mine. I am still looking for the CRP Front shock set - won't put it n my new one, but definately on my original.
The boot is the coolest thing. They are just starting to make cars with them again - Tamiya had them 20 years ago.
That's it LB - Is that your sticker set? You get 30-50 for it on E-bay.
The CVD is worth it, just for the cool factor. I still put the rubber boot over mine. I am still looking for the CRP Front shock set - won't put it n my new one, but definately on my original.
The boot is the coolest thing. They are just starting to make cars with them again - Tamiya had them 20 years ago.
03-01-2007, 02:26 PM
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Right, but to me, it is like, either old school stuff (i.e., sentimental value) or high performance / new tech.. so to me, the Sand Viper kind of got caught in between.. it is not old, but not the newest either.. so.. not knocking on your car.. I think it is nice.. but everyone has a different collecting philosophy, you know!
Don't have to be a racer to enjoy the race worthy cars.. ha! Just like most people who own Porsche / Ferrari / etc. probably aren't great drivers.. (some are.. but.. majority have never taken their car to even a track day..)
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But those buggies are for racing. And you told me about a month ago that you're not very competitive..........
But those buggies are for racing. And you told me about a month ago that you're not very competitive..........
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Alright I'll leave you alone.....BUT IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND JUST PM ME!!!!!!!!!!
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Right, but to me, it is like, either old school stuff (i.e., sentimental value) or high performance / new tech.. so to me, the Sand Viper kind of got caught in between.. it is not old, but not the newest either.. so.. not knocking on your car.. I think it is nice.. but everyone has a different collecting philosophy, you know!
Don't have to be a racer to enjoy the race worthy cars.. ha! Just like most people who own Porsche / Ferrari / etc. probably aren't great drivers.. (some are.. but.. majority have never taken their car to even a track day..)
Right, but to me, it is like, either old school stuff (i.e., sentimental value) or high performance / new tech.. so to me, the Sand Viper kind of got caught in between.. it is not old, but not the newest either.. so.. not knocking on your car.. I think it is nice.. but everyone has a different collecting philosophy, you know!
Don't have to be a racer to enjoy the race worthy cars.. ha! Just like most people who own Porsche / Ferrari / etc. probably aren't great drivers.. (some are.. but.. majority have never taken their car to even a track day..)
ORIGINAL: p2k2racer
But those buggies are for racing. And you told me about a month ago that you're not very competitive..........
But those buggies are for racing. And you told me about a month ago that you're not very competitive..........
03-01-2007, 02:32 PM
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Why PM you?! Ha! If I were to buy one, I'd buy a new kit, though.. hee hee.. but maybe I will start a thread.. hee hee.. on how to build a Sand Viper..
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Alright I'll leave you alone.....BUT IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND JUST PM ME!!!!!!!!!!
Alright I'll leave you alone.....BUT IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND JUST PM ME!!!!!!!!!!
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Ah to let me know! I'm trying to start a RCU sand viper club here!
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Why PM you?! Ha! If I were to buy one, I'd buy a new kit, though.. hee hee.. but maybe I will start a thread.. hee hee.. on how to build a Sand Viper..
Why PM you?! Ha! If I were to buy one, I'd buy a new kit, though.. hee hee.. but maybe I will start a thread.. hee hee.. on how to build a Sand Viper..
ORIGINAL: p2k2racer
Alright I'll leave you alone.....BUT IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND JUST PM ME!!!!!!!!!!
Alright I'll leave you alone.....BUT IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND JUST PM ME!!!!!!!!!!
