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Old 02-08-2008, 05:39 PM
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Default Brushless HPI Firestorm - The Flux

HPI’s First Brushless Truck!
Coming soon from HPI Racing is the ready-to-run E-Firestorm Flux, HPI’s first-ever brushless motor equipped 2WD 1/10th scale stadium truck. The E-Firestorm Flux takes the durable E-Firestorm platform to the next level with amazing performance from brushless motor technology. The new Flux Brushless system includes a Flux Warp brushless motor that is controlled by Flux Motiv electronic speed control. Add your own battery pack and you’re ready to wheelie and experience the extreme power and efficiency that brushless technology offers.


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From the tough ALL METAL gear transmission to full adjustability of the suspension geometry, the E-Firestorm sets a new standard for ready-to-run stadium trucks. Full ball bearings, silicone oil filled threaded shocks – it’s all there, precision built from the factory. Top it off with your choice of a bright red or metallic silver custom screened DSX-2 body and your E-Firestorm Flux is ready to hit the dirt!

Built Tough
TOUGH is the word that best describes the E-Firestorm Flux. Everywhere you look the critical parts have been designed to withstand the rigors of off-road racing. The key to durability for any 2WD stadium truck is the transmission, and the E-Firestorm Flux tranny is extra tough, using all metal gears to easily handle the power of hot electric motors. Inside the tranny is a sealed planetary differential with, again, all metal gears for extra toughness. And everything is protected by an adjustable dual-pad slipper clutch mated to durable 48 pitch gears, with tough steel dogbones and axles transmit the power to the tires.

The Firestorm's design heritage is easy to spot in the E-Firestorm Flux. The stealthy black color theme is purposefully applied to the sleek curves of the composite nylon main chassis with strategically center-mounted batteries, servo and transmission. The proven tough suspension from the Firestorm is carried over for maximum durability. And subtle features like threaded shock bodies and hex head screws point out that the E-Firestorm Flux is not your average RTR truck, it's a whole new level of design for the RTR class.


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Performance Driven Design
The E-Firestorm Flux uses race-inspired design to give owners full control over suspension adjustments for excellent handling on surfaces like open fields, parks, and even to your local racing track. The lay down steering servo and low profile transmission help provide a very low center of gravity (CG) for quick response. A full set of turnbuckles allows you to adjust camber and front toe. The rear toe and anti-squat angles are adjustable using pivot blocks, just like on the high-spec racing trucks. Silicone oil-filled shocks absorb all bumps and jumps and keep the tires on the ground. The shocks even feature threaded shock bodies for easy spring adjustments, while 3 upper and 2 lower shock mounts give a multitude of tuning possibilities. 14 ball bearings provide maximum drive train efficiency for faster top speed and durability. Wide-track suspension gives the E-Firestorm Flux superb control. Providing extra grip and control are square-pin Ground Assault rear tires, and asymmetric dual-edge Front Line tires keep the E-Firestorm Flux pointed in the right direction.

Brushless Electric Power
The E-Firestorm Flux takes full advantage of all of the benefits of electric power; it's quiet, clean, powerful, and truly plug-and-play… no starter or fuel needed! Blazing power comes from a Flux Warp brushless motor, controlled by an electronic speed control for complete control over throttle, brakes, and reverse. Add your choice of batteries from NiMh to Li-Po; they all fit easily in the E-Firestorm battery slot that gives secure and tool-free access to the batteries.


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The Complete Package
From the tough all metal transmission gears to full adjustability of the suspension geometry, the E-Firestorm sets a new standard for ready-to-run stadium trucks. Full ball bearings, brushless 5700kv motor, electronic speed control, silicone oil-filled threaded shocks - it's all there on the E-Firestorm Flux, precision built from the factory. Top it off with your choice of a bright red or metallic silver custom screened DSX-2 body and your E-Firestorm is ready to hit the dirt!


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FLUX WARP 5700kv BRUSHLESS MOTOR FEATURES:

* High Torque/ High Temperature Neodymium Magnet.
* Oversized precision sealed bearings.
* 2.3mm 1/8" Hardened Steel Shaft.
* Slotless stator design delivers smooth, linear torque.
* Triple insulated windings for long life.
* Highest efficiency motors in class (> 85% efficient) gives longest possible run times.
* Black Anodized Case.
* Easy to Install.
* Can be rebuilt (bearings and rotor user-replaceable).
* Compatible with any Sensorless ESC.

FLUX MOTIV BRUSHLESS ESC FEATURES:

* 6-12 Cell NiMH/ NiCd or 2-3 Cell Lithium Polymer.
* 70A* Continuous / 380A burst current.
* Ultra low resistance (.0007 ohms / phase).
* Sensorless technology eliminates additional sensor wiring and complexity.
* Lithium Compatible. ** Programmable Lithium under-voltage cutoff protects delicate Lithium packs from over-discharge.
* High performance cross-cut aluminum heat sink.
* Smooth startup and run with sensorless motors (Patents Pending).
* Linear Torque Braking/ allows better control on corner entry.
* Castle Link™ compatible for the ultimate in race tuning.

*25C temperature, 5mph air flow through heat sink minimum. Burst current: < 2 seconds duration, 1% Duty cycle.

**ESC must be programmed for Lithium cutoff when using Lithium batteries.

E-FIRESTORM FLUX FEATURES:

* Flux Warp 5700kv brushless motor provides high performance, efficiency, long motor life, reduced maintenance
* Flux Motiv ESC for smooth and efficient motor control
* Composite main chassis is lightweight and durable
* Suspension geometry and components from the Firestorm 10T
* Nimble handling and easy to drive in all conditions
* Many existing Firestorm option parts bolt directly on to maximize performance
* Vertically adjustable front and rear camber links are easily adjustable to suit conditions and driving styles
* Adjustable shock positions (3 upper and 2 lower) to maximize suspension performance
* Adjustable wheelbase to tune the length of the truck to suit driving conditions
* Adjustable rear toe and anti-squat for quick adjustment to fine tune handling
* High quality thumbscrews on battery retainer for secure and tool-free battery access. Fits most Li-Po packs, 6-cell NiMh batteries, and even 7-cell NiMh batteries
* Dual pad slipper clutch protects the drive train on hard landings
* Durable low-profile 2.6:1 ratio ALL METAL gear transmission is extremely durable and capable of handling very powerful motors
* Sealed planetary gear differential for nearly zero maintenance, maximum reliability and convenience of tuning differential action with heavy weight silicone oils
* Strong alloy steel dog bones for simplicity and durability
* 14 ball bearings throughout the drive train for maximum speed and efficiency
* Turnbuckles used for each camber link and steering rod allow fine adjustment of the suspension geometry to suit your driving style and track conditions
* Threaded shock bodies allow fine adjustment of ride height
* Silicone oil filled shocks for high performance and more consistent damping in extreme temperatures
* Aluminum 12mm wheel hex adapters used front and rear are compatible with all HPI 1/10th scale truck rear wheels. Allows many different wheel and tire combinations to adapt to driving conditions and numerous styling options
* Alloy steel front axles are extremely durable
* Captured hinge pin design used throughout… easy maintenance with no E-clips
* Lay down steering servo for the lowest possible center of gravity
* High quality hex head machine screws used throughout for simple maintenance
* Adjustable height body mounts allow a variety of body styles to fit the chassis for a custom look
* Ground Assault taper pin rear tires and Front Line ribbed front tires for high traction and long life on nearly any surface
* Shiny chrome “Scorch” wheels made from high impact nylon for extreme durabilty
* 48 pitch pinion and spur gear for maximum efficiency and reliability, protected by a molded gear cover to keep debris away from the gears
* Pre-painted DSX-2 body with custom graphics to complement your style


#10553 RTR E-FIRESTORM 10T FLUX WITH DSX-2 TRUCK BODY
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:44 PM
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Default RE: Brushless HPI Firestorm - The Flux

ok i was deciding between the brushed e-firestorm and vxl rustler (i have an old rustler body for parts) but now with this news i may just go for the brushless e-firestorm
Old 02-08-2008, 05:45 PM
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Default RE: Brushless HPI Firestorm - The Flux

Good news this im looking at a e storm now for a ST and was gonna get a mamba to go with it but this deal looks good too!!
any price set yet??
Old 02-08-2008, 05:47 PM
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Default RE: Brushless HPI Firestorm - The Flux

does that remind anyone of an e-firestorm with a mm5700. I think the esc looks like a sidewinder.
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Default RE: Brushless HPI Firestorm - The Flux

I haven't heard any price as yet, whats in the first post is all that I know atm. It looks good, nicer than a VXL dare I say it......
Old 02-08-2008, 05:54 PM
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Default RE: Brushless HPI Firestorm - The Flux

yeh i read the review in RCCA on the e-storm and wasnt happy with the 22mph top speed on 6 cell []
but the reviewer stuck in a mamba 5700 and got it up to 35+ with standard gearing so with a gear change its got to hit 45+ with lipo support
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man i love RC, lol
Old 02-08-2008, 07:20 PM
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its the mamba sidewinder esc!!!!!! woooohoooo
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"Castle Link™ compatible for the ultimate in race tuning." ???
I'm guessing it's an OEM sidewinder, maybe souped up a little to handle the 5700KV motor?

Also it says RTR in the desc., but on the site it's in the /kits directory? Is it a kit or isn't it?
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Great find!

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its the mamba sidewinder esc!!!!!! woooohoooo
E-Firestorm + Sidewinder ESC and 5700 motor? Yes, fabulous combination if I do say so myself!





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Old 02-08-2008, 09:04 PM
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Tower has the price listed although I think it must be wrong unless this comes with a good radio and batteries/charger. 445.00. How many you want????? lol[sm=greedy.gif]
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why cant they just sell a kit [:@] . still sweet though
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"Castle Link™ compatible for the ultimate in race tuning." ???
I'm guessing it's an OEM sidewinder, maybe souped up a little to handle the 5700KV motor?

Also it says RTR in the desc., but on the site it's in the /kits directory? Is it a kit or isn't it?
That's ok. Today/yesterday Tower had the DT02-MS 2WD Tamiya buggy in the "on road car kits" section. Heh.

Darkwav - I dig the shocks you have. Saw them on HPIs site the other week - very slick.
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I dont get what the bif deal is about this...? Its just a E-firestorm with a rebadged sidewinder ESC and a sensorless novak type motor.
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I dont get what the bif deal is about this...? Its just a E-firestorm with a rebadged sidewinder ESC and a sensorless novak type motor.
oh really, if i am not mistakin you thought it was awesome that the rusty vxl came out. but your saying whats the big deal that a brushless E firestorm is coming out.
I'll tell ya what the big deal is, its another vxl killer in the market[sm=punching.gif]
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I dont get what the bif deal is about this...? Its just a E-firestorm with a rebadged sidewinder ESC and a sensorless novak type motor.
oh really, if i am not mistakin you thought it was awesome that the rusty vxl came out. but your saying whats the big deal that a brushless E firestorm is coming out.
I'll tell ya what the big deal is, its another vxl killer in the market[sm=punching.gif]
First of all it will be knowere near as fast as the VXL on 3s. Second of all Traxxas did alot of mods from the XL5 version to all the r/c's they put the VXL in. The VXL rustler,pede, and bandit was something to talk about.
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I dont get what the bif deal is about this...? Its just a E-firestorm with a rebadged sidewinder ESC and a sensorless novak type motor.
oh really, if i am not mistakin you thought it was awesome that the rusty vxl came out. but your saying whats the big deal that a brushless E firestorm is coming out.
I'll tell ya what the big deal is, its another vxl killer in the market[sm=punching.gif]
First of all it will be knowere near as fast as the VXL on 3s. Second of all Traxxas did alot of mods from the XL5 version to all the r/c's they put the VXL in. The VXL rustler,pede, and bandit was something to talk about.
5700 on 3s will be just as fast and no special gearing to the moon either
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I dont get what the bif deal is about this...? Its just a E-firestorm with a rebadged sidewinder ESC and a sensorless novak type motor.
oh really, if i am not mistakin you thought it was awesome that the rusty vxl came out. but your saying whats the big deal that a brushless E firestorm is coming out.
I'll tell ya what the big deal is, its another vxl killer in the market[sm=punching.gif]
First of all it will be knowere near as fast as the VXL on 3s. Second of all Traxxas did alot of mods from the XL5 version to all the r/c's they put the VXL in. The VXL rustler,pede, and bandit was something to talk about.
5700 on 3s will be just as fast and no special gearing to the moon either
Nope still not as fast... Plus you cant run the sidewinder on 3s with the 5700 motor.
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I dont get what the bif deal is about this...? Its just a E-firestorm with a rebadged sidewinder ESC and a sensorless novak type motor.
oh really, if i am not mistakin you thought it was awesome that the rusty vxl came out. but your saying whats the big deal that a brushless E firestorm is coming out.
I'll tell ya what the big deal is, its another vxl killer in the market[sm=punching.gif]
First of all it will be knowere near as fast as the VXL on 3s. Second of all Traxxas did alot of mods from the XL5 version to all the r/c's they put the VXL in. The VXL rustler,pede, and bandit was something to talk about.
5700 on 3s will be just as fast and no special gearing to the moon either
Nope still not as fast... Plus you cant run the sidewinder on 3s with the 5700 motor.
Talk about a takedown!

Yea I know that was cheesy, haha

I love how they just changed the colors and sticker on a sidewinder to use in their car. Its the same kinda stuff that goes on in the automotive market. TONS of rebadged stuff. We'll just have to see how this thing turns out. I do'nt think it'll be a vxl killer (even though I'd love to see vxl fanboys stick their foots in their mouths )
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I'd love to see One of the bigname companies such as HPI, Losi, Traxxas, AE get tied with Castle and have them supply their ESC's in that companies r/c's. I would also like to see an updated MM. A new layout and a little more powerful.
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I dont get what the bif deal is about this...? Its just a E-firestorm with a rebadged sidewinder ESC and a sensorless novak type motor.
oh really, if i am not mistakin you thought it was awesome that the rusty vxl came out. but your saying whats the big deal that a brushless E firestorm is coming out.
I'll tell ya what the big deal is, its another vxl killer in the market[sm=punching.gif]
First of all it will be knowere near as fast as the VXL on 3s. Second of all Traxxas did alot of mods from the XL5 version to all the r/c's they put the VXL in. The VXL rustler,pede, and bandit was something to talk about.
5700 on 3s will be just as fast and no special gearing to the moon either
Nope still not as fast... Plus you cant run the sidewinder on 3s with the 5700 motor.
well if you read the specs it says on it, it can be run with a 3s... this may be a castle ESC but its not a castle motor. and you and i know that the sidewinder ESC is 3s capable.

how ya like that takedown rymansl2 , lol
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ORIGINAL: Takedown

I dont get what the bif deal is about this...? Its just a E-firestorm with a rebadged sidewinder ESC and a sensorless novak type motor.
oh really, if i am not mistakin you thought it was awesome that the rusty vxl came out. but your saying whats the big deal that a brushless E firestorm is coming out.
I'll tell ya what the big deal is, its another vxl killer in the market[sm=punching.gif]
First of all it will be knowere near as fast as the VXL on 3s. Second of all Traxxas did alot of mods from the XL5 version to all the r/c's they put the VXL in. The VXL rustler,pede, and bandit was something to talk about.
5700 on 3s will be just as fast and no special gearing to the moon either
Nope still not as fast... Plus you cant run the sidewinder on 3s with the 5700 motor.
well if you read the specs it says on it, it can be run with a 3s... this may be a castle ESC but its not a castle motor. and you and i know that the sidewinder ESC is 3s capable.

how ya like that takedown rymansl2 , lol
Yes Im aware that the sidewinder can run on 3s but only with the 4600 motor. It cant run 3s when combined with the 5700 motor according to Castle. Thats what Im trying to say...
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"Castle Link™ compatible for the ultimate in race tuning." ???
I'm guessing it's an OEM sidewinder, maybe souped up a little to handle the 5700KV motor?

Also it says RTR in the desc., but on the site it's in the /kits directory? Is it a kit or isn't it?

If I'm not mistake the sidewinder could already handle the 5700kv..... I'm pretty sure.

So lets see here, traxxas started out with a 3500kv motor, then Losi introduced a 4300kv in there RTR, and now this with a 5700kv motor........ So who and when do you think'll come out with the RTR with a 3 turn motor in it?
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TD if i am not mistakin the 5700 can handle a 3s with the regular MM. in the sidewinder the 5700 has been toned down to only handle 2s, im i right?. in this case there not using a castle motor with this system. the specs say this brushless system will have a 5700 capable running 3s, so yes it will be as fast.
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also remember the C4 big stick? castles MM 7700 has a max 2s capable, but with the C4 big stick 7700 it can be 3s capable.

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