ORIGINAL: dbigfoot111

well its only a back yard and park basher, i wont be doin anythign crazy, also i wont be doin too many upgrades unless parts are broken.


which would be more durable, more stable, over all best bang for the bucks?


can i get more info on both trucks please =)

ORIGINAL: rclugnut10

imo the e savage is a better setup and can be setup to be more stable, i have heard of ppl having issues with the diffs but other than that its much more durable

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ORIGINAL: The Mad Modder


Those can be straighted out with a set of shims.
http://204.186.93.64/E-Savage-ShimsKit.htm

ORIGINAL: t9dragon


I doubt a set of shims would have helped with my diff problems. I broke 2 diffs on the output shafts. Once I loosened up the slipper I didn't have anymore diff or axle problems.

ORIGINAL: rclugnut10

e maxx is based of the same chassie as the T maxx which came out int 99 they just newly beefed up a few little things...

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ORIGINAL: samguan

Here in Toronto, E-Maxx parts are like everywhere. E-Savage, not many parts available. Correct me if I'm wrong, E-Savage = outdated/old. While most of the hobby shops cary E-Maxx in stock.

ORIGINAL: mousecritter


Everywhere has Traxxas parts... even Pepboys.

Besides, the Esav tends to not break parts. Even if I need parts, Ebay has Esav parts at low prices.

The Esav/E-zilla came out in late 2005/early 2006. It's not the newest, but not as old as the Emaxx 9 year-old-design.

ORIGINAL: samguan


but the thing is that hobby shops still sell them. I don't think you can find an E-Savage in any of the hobby shops here in Toronto.

ORIGINAL: mousecritter

What are you suggesting?

Have you ever considered that Traxxas probably spends millions of dollars just for advertising?

Everyone knows McDonald's, but it doesn't mean they have the greatest burgers.

EDIT: discontinued? The Esav is still listed at HPIracing.com on their main page. Not to mention that plenty of e-tailers still sell them.

ORIGINAL: mousecritter
Everywhere has Traxxas parts... even Pepboys.

Besides, the Esav tends to not break parts. Even if I need parts, Ebay has Esav parts at low prices.

The Esav/E-zilla came out in late 2005/early 2006. It's not the newest, but not as old as the Emaxx 9 year-old-design.

ORIGINAL: mousecritter

You have to realize that not too many people have used both. Of course, whoever owns that particular truck will vouch for their truck. I don't have an Emaxx, but I do own an E-Savage and I'd be glad to tell you my experiences with it.

The E-savage has plenty of speed. I've jumped it 4ft in the air only to land straight on its nose on concrete and nothing broke. I've accidentally drove into plenty of things (parked cars, trees, and even broke a water pipe w/ the Esav). And I'm still using the same parts from when it was new.

As for the diffs, that problems is over-hyped. It may have been an issue when the Esav first came out, but the newer stock has hardened gears. I haven't had any diff issues. The only problem I've had is a clicking noise. I opened everything up and nothing was broken or chipped. I'm pretty sure it's the pinion gear and ring gear, which can easily be solved with shimming the ring gear. I haven't got around to shimming yet. It's not a big deal to me because my Esav performs the same as when it was new. It only clicks at low speed.

I was also stuck between the Esav and Emaxx. Price is definitely one of the things that won me over. I paid $225 shipped for mine (Tower + $50 off coupon).

ORIGINAL: dbigfoot111


how often does hobby tower give out coupons like this?

BTW i was comparing with e-maxx 3950 and the e-savage, e-savage flux is way too much for my pocket.
yes i've been reading on many threads about e-savage, people who owns it said the e-savage will be faster out of the box than e-maxx.
as if now im leaning more to the e-savage,



what do you guys means by bad transmission? does it break easy or something?

thank you for the helpful feeds

ORIGINAL: bhcvc

Well, I have an E-Savage and my friend has 2 ''old'' E-Maxxs and had 1 ''new'' E-Maxx. He sold the new one to his friend. He kept the ''old'' ones because they were stronger since they had most parts replaced with aluminum and he already has spares for the old ones.

Between the 3 (E-Savage, old E-Maxx, new E-Maxx), the E-Savage seems to be the toughest stock. I've landed 6ft jumps straight onto concrete on the nose, the tail, and up-side-down with no breakages. My friend broke the bulkheads, shocks towers, and/or arms on all of his Maxxes. He replaced those parts with aluminum pieces on his old Maxxes, but didn't bother replacing them on his new Maxx since his friend wanted to buy it anyways. His breakages were from bad landings and hitting hard objects, but I hit those same objects and had worse landings than him with no problems. So that's the durability department.

Speed-wise, the E-Savage a bit faster stock, but that's because both the old and new E-Maxxes are bigger than the E-Savage. If you want size and don't mind getting aluminum parts (which end up costing more), the E-Maxx might fit the bill.

The E-Savage diff issues are overblown. Shimmed properly (don't use Kershaw shims, just buy your own of the right sizes and you'll have spares), the diffs work just fine. And if you want stronger diffs, get GCM's diffs...really tough! The weakest part of the E-Savage are the drive axles which can snap when you land while at full or near-full throttle. They will almost guaranteed snap if you're running brushless (just the rears, fronts are usually fine). Get a set of Traxxas 4951x axles and you'll be fine.

Both trucks will handle brushless fine. My E-Savage is brushless and it's DAMN fast! Really fun.

Regarding stability, the wider track of the E-Maxx makes it more stable. However, there are modifications for the E-Savage to help with that too. GCM makes some wider arms which are great. GCM also offers longer TVPs (along with other brands like FLM) which help address the size issue.

Traxxas parts are everywhere, but I don't have a problem getting HPI parts. I usually order online, but my LHSs can order for me too. I don't mind not having parts for a few days. I have other trucks to play with in the mean time.

In the end, I prefer my E-Savage. It's, IMO and experience, a tougher, better built and designed truck. The size and handling can be addressed by the aftermarket. On the same hand, the durability issues with the E-Maxxes can be addressed by the aftermarket also. It's just a matter of how much you want to spend. Considering the E-Savage costs $100+ less than the E-Maxx, that difference can go toward a more stable, larger, and more durable E-Savage for the same price as an E-Maxx.

Oh, the E-Maxx (new) has a waterproof/resistant ESC. Don't know if that matters much to you. If you go brushless, you can't run through water anyways.

Final thing, the Johnson 550 motors on the E-Savage are more durable and last longer than the Titan 550s on the E-Maxx.