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nappyroots2182 01-31-2005 08:38 AM

controller wont work with afp
 
i have aerofly pro but no cable so i was wondering if my controller from my dave brown simulator would work? it is a 15 pin serial and works with my other sims but aerofly says:
(unalbe to locate the interface cable. please plug interface into a free com port.) so will it not work or what can i do. also where can i buy a interface that would work that i could plug into my futaba controllers? thanks for any help.

crowfly 01-31-2005 04:50 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
Hello, It seems like a lot a lot of folks are having a problem in this area. I'll try to explain. That which you desire WILL NOT WORK. If any old interface cable would work, People would just burn copies of the software CD and go into the simulator business. To protect the program from being copied successfully,the AFPD interface cable has a memory chip with code stored in it. The program won't get past first base without it. The code sent out by the chip tells the software that you are a legitimate user & therefore it is OK to open up & function. If and when you plug in a real AFP or AFPD cable you can then use that cable to run the program or (this is important) while that AFPD cable is STILL PLUGGED IN you can Attempt to use another cord of any brand in a different port on you're computer. I hope this helps. Crowfly

nappyroots2182 01-31-2005 06:20 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
is there somewhere i can just buy a cord for the aero fly pro? also im thinking about getting realflight g3. will this cord work. i heard that it does but not sure.

crowfly 01-31-2005 07:56 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
Hello, Nope, you can't buy just the cord. Soon you will be able to buy a dummy cord but it is just that, a dummy. It needs a "real" afpd cord (with the code) or a game commander ( buddy box with code) in order to use it. It's purpose is to allow folks with a commander box to also be able to use a real r/c transmitter or to allow commander or interface versions to fly two planes at the same time. Once you aquire a real afp/d cord then the g3 box will work with it. AFP/D wont fly without a real AFP/D cord (not dummy) or commander box (which also has code) constantly plugged in to the computer. If this is starting to sound like they (AFP/D) are selling you the cord and giving you the software then you're starting to figure it out. ALthough this is not totally true, it's close. Bottom line,,,,,,,, The cord is the only thing keeping their product from being illegally copied. Crowfly

captinjohn 02-01-2005 11:09 AM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
I believe all what you said is true. BUT... the people that bought AFPdeluxe and paid going on $200 dollars should be able to buy a extra cable for there own use. I have another computer and I would like to have both set-up so when my grandsons come over we can use both. (need 2 cords) Another thing I would lke to know is if you can add a common plug in the cord a few inches from the jack that plugs into my TX. I do not want to ruin the connecting device in my TX. There may be contacts that in time will get wore out and when I go to fly at field this summer will cause a weak connection and boom...there goes my plane into the ground? How about this. Can this happen? Can a person leave the cords plugged in all the time? Which I do not want to do really. Again I love this product, and I want to keep my investment working. Thanks Capt,n

ehart 02-01-2005 01:33 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
I think it'd be nice if Ikarus could address that issue, perhaps allowing registered users to purchase a "backup" cord.

I daresay the original poster never bought the software in the first place, and I'm sure you're not loking to encourage pirating the software.

captinjohn 02-01-2005 01:49 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
Yes they should address that issue. My AFPDeluxe has a serial number (?) right on the computer screen. That number I think is your copy no. Anyway They know I bought it...paid for the thing and should at least provide one more cable so you could have 2. I would even go for keeping the one I got (if I am carefull about static it,s ok) and they could furnish me a 2nd one for a NOMINAL FEE. It would be hard anyway for the average person to pirate this kind of stuff. I will be calling OMP and Ikarus both sometime in the future about this. Regards Capt,n

codiddley 02-01-2005 06:51 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
I dont know if anyone mentioned this- but you can fly 2 player with another chord- but the Dongle needs to be plugged into the computer you are using.

Cody

captinjohn 02-01-2005 09:31 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
When you do the 2 player thing...is it split screen or what? Seems like it would be neet to fly 2 plane on one full screen? Is it possible? Capt,n

crowfly 02-02-2005 12:58 AM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
Hello, The serial number that you see on the screen is generated by the chip in the cable, not by the software. Try opening the software with no cable attached and see what it says in the serial number location. I agree it would be nice if you could get a spare cable, but it would be like telling G.M. to send me a spare corvette & I promise I wont use it unless my other one is broke down or the grandkids are coming over and we all want to ride but but we can't all get in one 'vette and we'd like to go in different directions. AFPD could be "standard equipment" on every new computer. They could load it right along with windows XP, but still it would be non-functional without a cord with the security code. If every computer did have AFPD and ANY cable (including low priced "spares") would cause it function Ikarus would go broke. You can burn as many copies of the software as you want, but because there is no security (registration) the anti-pirating safeguard must be in the cable. You can take all the pictures you want, of the corvette, and give them to everyone you know. But if you both want to drive in different directions on different streets You're just going to have to buy another vette. Crowfly

Scott G 02-02-2005 01:37 AM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
When you have two controllers hooked up to one computer it is split screen. You can choose to split of horizontally or vertically. I have run two on my box, one using the provided dongle and my transmitter and the other using my USB Real Flight G2 controller. It works really well. I like doing a slow harrier with the smoke on and blocking my friends view... :)

If you want to run it on two different computers simultaneously you are going to need another copy of the software/dongle combo.

scott.

captinjohn 02-02-2005 11:59 AM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
Scott...just another cord should do it (maybe) the software stays in puter. Not sure...Capt,n

Scott G 02-02-2005 03:41 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
Yes, another cable would make it work, but I would be surprised if they sold you one for much less that the original cord/software combo, if at all. The reason the cord is required to play is to insure that no one does exactly what you are trying to do, that being, run the software on two systems simultaneously without buying two copies. I'm not accusing you of stealing, I'm just trying to explain their rationale.

If they sold the second cable for say $20 dollars and the package cable/software costs $170 (that's what I paid on omp) then many people would buy the extra cable and sell it to their friends for say 50 bucks. It would have the overall effect of reducing the price from Ikarus's perspective from $170 to 170+20/2=$95. I think they will try to protect the profits, after all there are some hard working engineers in Germany that need to get paid ;)

Do you have a G2 controller or something so you and your grandson can play on a split screen?

Have fun,
scott.

captinjohn 02-02-2005 09:31 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
My personal opinion is....Ikarus should sell at least 1 interface cord (one only) to whoever bought the AFPD system. Otherwise for sure someone will find a way to get around the Dongle thing. Sure as there is a obstacle put fort...somebody will find a solution for sure. Better to make some more$$ off a 2nd interface now...than to loose when other genius people get it done. my 2 cents!!!!

tadracket 02-03-2005 02:40 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
I say an exchange policy. If you break your cable, send it in for replacement. That is fair and they keep the ratio flat on legit software to cables. I have a 1 year old son and I can see him chewing into my in the near future. I would love to see a replacement policy.

CGRetired 02-05-2005 03:51 PM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
Perhaps I am dense but please allow me to digress.

Ok. I have the RealFlight G2 USB interface. I also bought the AFP Deluxe. Of course, it came with the USB adapter, which from what I read in the above, has the 'serial' chip installed. So, in order to fly I must have the adapter WITH the chip in a USB port. How am I doing so far? Next, I plug the Realflight G2 USB Interface into another spare USB port. It should work, right?

If so, well, I don't quite know what I am doing wrong because the interface goes into one USB port and the Adapter cable goes into another spare port. All that happens is the AFPD loads up, searching for transmitter then sits there trying to find the transmitter. What, if anything am I doing wrong? What hints did I miss to get the software to load up? BTW, I had been running AFP using the G2 USB interface so I know it works.. somehow. The computer is an Intel P4, 1.8 Gig with 512 Meg ram and, of course, Direct X 9.02 I believe.

Thanks in advance!!

wahoo 02-07-2005 09:55 AM

RE: controller wont work with afp
 
The spare interface cable would be a great idea for those of us who have 2 home computers connected together as the split screen option (even on a 19" monitor) leaves a lot to be desired when a friend and i want to fly at the same time.

John


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