RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

Just curious...did they have anything better than the 6600 in stock or was it a case of selling what they had on hand?

RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

I think that you are on the right track with the video card. This program is one of the most video intensive ones that I know of and it requires all the video card you can get to run it at full realism. You can turn off some of the scenery and textures if you want to and maybe get by with a lesser card.

Good Luck

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I dont even know what i got, i (actually my parents, but thats beside the point) bought my computer in 2001, windows XP, Pentium 4, compaq...g3 runs fine, and every once in a while it actually handles full scenery and everything on medium at about 20 fps, and everything turned off is very smooth at about 30 fps, and i cant barely tell a difference between 30 and 15, so its all good for me!

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Breakstuff,

What happens when you crank it up to full scenery with everything to full? Probably comes to a halt I would guess. That is the point I was making earlier, if you turn the graphics down a little, you can get by with less than the latest card installed. If you want the full experience, use it as you are doing and save up for a better card in the future.

If you have the minimum requirements for the video card and it still is not enough, just cut down on the unimportant features like some of the scenery and some of the realism and let it rock.

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If I crank it up to full everything and everything on highest it almost comes to a hault, prolly around 2 or 3 FPS and it is very unflyable, but i am still very satisfied the way everything looks, i always fly at the minimum settings just to be sure it wont get jumpy. Plus, i dont even notice scenery and extra realism after flying for an hr or so, same with reflex, i dont even notice how real it looks once im use to it, i just fly! I tried the free FMS for the heck of it not long ago and the graphics didnt bother me at all, if it had the physics of g3 i would be just as happy.

RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

First this...

And then this.....
Dude,
I hate to break the news to you but you have the equivalent of a $500-$700 computer.

RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

And your point?

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They popped in $500 dollar card and no difference. They tell me now that they traced it to the spyware protection, but I had it turned off and it was still doing it. I had tried down grading the settings, removing background etc.. no change. Guess I will see when I get it home tonight. They told me they ran it for 2 hours today and never had any lag, I just dont believe it was the spyware protection because, as I said I had it and the virus protection turned off. If it works now it has to be becuase the found something else and dont want to tell me, lol. In any case.. I will check when I get home. By the way, I contacted the manufacture of G3 and they said the 6600 was more then enough card to work with the game set on the max's.

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Thats interesting since I run it w/a 6800GT and cant run it at max settings!

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Well I dont know what you fellows are doing to your machines. My 2yr old 3.2, 1gig ram, Nvidia 5200 runs at 25-30fps sometimes hesitates on takeoff but gets faster the more you fly. Everything turned on. Norton IS, MS antispyware and some more junk in the background.

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Bluestratos,

I doubt that it is the spyware protection too. I have it on mine along with lots of other stuff running in the background and G3 works fine. I would say they changed some settings or drivers to fix it, if it is fixed.

AndyT,

Even though you have all of the scenery turned on, have you also gone into the graphics settings and set them all to "Highest" ? If you have and still have that kind of frame rate, don't ever get rid of that card. My system is more than you have and I can barely sustain those rates. But if it works, don't monkey around with it, just let me know how you did it!

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They were on high and now I went and turned them down and the frame rate dropped,but even so get around 25fps.
I have since turned down particles and shadows to medium. Texture at highest the rest on High everything on seems to be good.
Im a firm believer in Asus Mobos, best Ram you can get and at the time the Asus 5200 was pretty good genuine Intel ( I know that always gets the AMD guys but Ive been building for years and and had far less hassle with a Wintel setup). If you ask me full screen mode doesnt help on mine it makes it worse. I was a bit leery of G3 but have to say its been a blast.
I will say that I hate background programs and turn off everything that is not needed. You would be suprised whats loaded and not needed.

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Andyt,

I have had both Intel and AMD and to tell the truth, I can't really tell the difference. Of course I have always upgraded when I switched so I have never compared an Intel to an AMD "apples to apples" . I now have the AMD Athlon 64F/X chip and it runs great. When I am ready to upgrade, I always ask my computer friends what is the best at that moment in time and buy it. I have never been disappointed.

As for the background programs, so far they are not a problem. If they become one, they will be on the endangered species list.

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Im worried that i have all kinds of background programs running but i cant see it, when i press alt ctrl delete it goes to that screen, then i click on process and there is a bunch of .exe stuff running, some of its crap because its stuff like "GameDrvr.exe" or "CFD.exe", i know those are crap bc i never seen them on that list until recently.

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Well, success...!!! Got the puter back and it is running everthing flawlessly at the highest settings. They say all they did was turn off the spyware but I know that they did something else becuase I tried that before I returned the machine. It runs beautifully now, same card (6600). I was having trouble with the other games (empire earth II and empire earth) and they both work perfectly now and I turned alol the setting up to the max. Online gaming is perfect too, not a stutter after 1 hour of game play. The mouse is as smooth as silk. One thing I did notice was that my old power cord was very loose so I put in the new one when I hooked it back up. I doubt that would have anything to do with it, I changed it because I noticed that the maching would sometimes restart when I pluged in my flash card for the futaba 14MZ.. I thought it was the card.. bent pins.. but traced it down to the power plug. Guess when I wiggled the card to get it to slide in it would also wiggled the whole puter. In anycase all is well in G3 land now.

Just a side note, I was trying to load the add on disc #1 when it kept asking me for the serial number.. there is no serial number on disc 1!!!.. found out there is a default # on their web page.

Thanks for all the help,
Randy

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I'm happy for ya! Make sure you get on multiplayer around 7 or 8 o'clock, thats usually when evryone gets on i guess, i hope to see ya on there!

RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

so no comments from the knife edge guy about a linux binary :) lol

RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

What time zone? I am on the west coast...

Take care,
Randy

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Well, usually there is someone all the time, but i geton around 6 through 10 o'clock pacific and usually there are quite a few people on.

RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

Breakstuff, Type in msconfig in the run box.

Check the startup pane.

You can stop programs from loading at startup by checking and unchecking the boxes.

Some you need, most you dont like for example Microsoft office ( it runs just fine if not loaded at startup)

You can experiment using this tool and if you tell it to it will not ask you evertime.
Changes do not take place until restart.

Should you want to go completely back click Normal Startup.

:D

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Thanks! I found alot of un needed stuff, its time to see a difference i guess!

RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

Bluestratos, what was the brand of spyware that they suspected was causing the problem?

Thanks,

Bob

RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

You need to fire the person working on your computer. They sound like complete fools. If you say you need a very good video card for games and they recommend that you don't get anything greater than a 6600 then they plainly don't know what they are talking about. A 6800 GT would be a medium grade video card, so that makes the 6600 a top of the line low end card.

Anyways, you may want to try reinstalling WinXP and starting out with a fresh install if your problems come back or uninstalling your old ForceWare drivers by following the instructions here: http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_4.html

I have a Athlon FX-55 and ATi X800 XT PE card and I get 70-100FPS at 1600x1200 w/2 Anti-Alias.

RE: Realflight G3 Problems
 

I believe it was called spydoctor

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all you really need to get off of a video card is around 60 fps. the human eye cannot assertain movement faster than that. when i was playing a game called medal of honor allied assult my ATI 9000 Pro was giving me those frames, now with the game call of duty not so good. the thing with video cards is to get what your budget can afford. but try to get something good that will last a while. another thing is that there are so many variables that can affect the performance other than just video card. having the right memory for your machine having a good processor and even a good hard drive. the hard drive is often overlooked but it no less an important item due to file reads and such during game play. 6600 should be sufficient enough to get 60 fps out of g3 but not Doom 3 and the like. video card is not always the most important feature. plus when putting together computers having components not interferring with each other is important as well. for anyone that has a integreted component like a sound card etc you will have known the pitfalls of performance and such. i do think that the people building bluestratos' computer were trying to build the best they could and not afford him alot of money as well. though i think 2000 is too much money for any computer. i built a dual processor system with 120 gb hard drive and a 120 mirrored partition for less than 1500 dollars. my current computer cost me 300 bucks i plan on upgrading video card to a nvidia fx 5800 ultra or something similar from my current ATI radeon 9000 pro. which will cost me around 150 bucks and give me 60 fps or more for what games i play.