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Old 07-22-2010, 02:49 PM
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In the cardboard box, climate controlled, how long shall it last before some sort of chemical breakdown?
Old 07-22-2010, 03:22 PM
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I wouldn't give it long in the cardboard box, maybe a couple minutes before it leaks out.
Old 07-22-2010, 03:28 PM
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Sorry, I couldn't resist. I have had nitro fuel in my shop for years and it seems to stay good. I have recently gone to one gas engine, and I don't think that will stay good for as long as nitro fuel. Make sure you keep the lid tight so the fuel can't atttract moisture, and like you said climate controlled so you don't get condensation in the fuel.
Old 07-22-2010, 04:37 PM
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It should last many years if the cans or bottles are well sealed.
Old 07-22-2010, 04:51 PM
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Keep it away from UV light or the Nitro methane will form Dinitromethane
Old 07-22-2010, 04:55 PM
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He's keeping it in the cardboard box so UV rays should not be a big issue.
Old 07-22-2010, 08:53 PM
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Glow fuel can be kept for several years...
IF it is kept in tightly sealed containers...
IF it is kept at moderate temperatures...
IF it is kept away from sunlight (opaque containers are best)...
and finally...
IF your father doesn't use it as a starter fluid for lighting charcoal grills.
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:12 PM
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hey...that's not a bad idea. I love the smell of burning castor oil, why not the taste, eh?
Old 07-23-2010, 04:55 PM
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Fly more. Then it won't be a problem.
Old 07-23-2010, 08:46 PM
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my little Saito .40 uses about 2-3 ounces a flight! I have 5 gallons at the house.....
Old 07-23-2010, 09:58 PM
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What happened to your bigger Saito's?
Old 07-24-2010, 12:40 AM
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I fly them too. But I always have my .40 in the car, ready to fly at a moment's notice. I drive by the field on my way home from work and stop most evenings. My newest plane is the 39" wingspan Combat Spitfire and is currently my go-to plane. And my fastest.

But I noticed that I have stopped using fuel and that is what prompted this thread. TWO ounces for a 7 minute flight! The last gallon lasted TOO long. The last couple inches in the gallon was ruined by finally absorbing too much water from the air and from draining my fuel tank back into it. That's never happened to me before. I've always used them up before that happens, but this summer is unusually hot and humid, and like I said, I've been flying the .40 more than ever.

I'll get some bigger ones out this weekend.
Old 07-24-2010, 08:57 AM
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Sunlight has always been my enemy with glow fuel and not moisture.

The high nitro is worse than the 10% about going bad.

5 use a square 1 gal metal can at the field. My other fuel stays in the boxes at home in the dark.

Old 07-25-2010, 03:55 PM
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20 year old glow fuel in cans and plastic bottles that had all previously been opened and used. Videos shot when it was over 100°F and my brain was frying.

Part 1) http://www.vimeo.com/8645449

Part 2) http://www.vimeo.com/8645671

Part 3) http://www.vimeo.com/8645712

Part 4) http://www.vimeo.com/8645730

Part 5) http://www.vimeo.com/8645744

Part 6) http://www.vimeo.com/8645765

Part 7) http://www.vimeo.com/8645794
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I didn't look at the vids this time but I remember from before that they all ran pretty good.
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ORIGINAL: Les Nessman

I wouldn't give it long in the cardboard box, maybe a couple minutes before it leaks out.

Now that's funny
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Question:
In the cardboard box, climate controlled, how long shall it last before some sort of chemical breakdown?

Answer:
Long Time!

Old 07-26-2010, 10:21 AM
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ORIGINAL: w8ye

I didn't look at the vids this time but I remember from before that they all ran pretty good.
Yes, that is indeed the end result. But, the videos tell a story, the way I produced them, and it is sort of funny to watch.
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Why did you not run the K&Bfuel? It appeared to be unopened.
Old 07-28-2010, 10:46 AM
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I don't remember. Maybe because it was over 100°F and by the time I ran the other three my brain was fried.
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hey...that's not a bad idea. I love the smell of burning castor oil, why not the taste, eh?
That's why I switched from adding 3% castor to 3% olive oil in my fuel ; )
Old 07-31-2010, 12:40 PM
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Hello!

I flew last season on 15+ years old fuel that I got for free - ran fine, no problems. I do not know of how they were stored, but they were in the standard jugs, lids on.


Old 09-20-2010, 07:32 PM
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I had a half gallon of pure nitromethane stored for 30+ years in a dark cool basement in a tightly capped metal can. Mixed up a batch of fuel with it a couple of years ago and it was fine.
Old 09-27-2010, 12:55 AM
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Ran Powermaster 10% today that was bought in 2003, and it was opened back then for a couple of flights.

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