quarter scale rear ends...?
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quarter scale rear ends...?
Does anybody make a Skellenger style quick change? I have been on the look out for a couple of years now. Last I heard about 2 years ago, somebody was making a ring and pinion style quick change rear end. Wonder if that ever happened? Thanks for any information on where I can get one. I always look on Ebay with no luck in 2 years... Or, they go for $4000, which is insane..
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
No one that I know of does... the guy on here that claimed he could make them never followed thru with most of his claims of abilities. Ask Quarterscalelegends or go to his website and check it out.... if anyone knows, it is him![sm=thumbup.gif] good luck with the search.... I keep an eye out for them too, I still have the remains of my chain drive 1/4 buggy that would work MUCH better with a QC rear.
09-19-2006, 01:06 PM
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Jack Skellenger made those rear ends and when he passed his son Steve took over. When the car manufacturers started to make cars for under $900 to try and please the bargain hunters out there they had to stop using quick change rear ends and start using belts to get the cost down. In the end they had to remove so much from the cars to get the price that low that they lost their "SCALE" apeal.
The tooling is said to still be around. But the Skellenger family and their machine shop left years ago to another state. [
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Its a real shame that those rears are not around anymore. They were exact replicas of the Halibrand and Winters rears that are used in full size cars. There were a lot of these 1/4 scale rear ends made and there is no shortage of them out there. The problem is that no one really wants to sell them and when they do they go for big money. There were other people that made QC rears but none of them were as nice as the Skellengers.
The tooling is said to still be around. But the Skellenger family and their machine shop left years ago to another state. [
]Its a real shame that those rears are not around anymore. They were exact replicas of the Halibrand and Winters rears that are used in full size cars. There were a lot of these 1/4 scale rear ends made and there is no shortage of them out there. The problem is that no one really wants to sell them and when they do they go for big money. There were other people that made QC rears but none of them were as nice as the Skellengers.
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
ORIGINAL: quarterscalelegends
Jack Skellenger made those rear ends and when he passed his son Steve took over. When the car manufacturers started to make cars for under $900 to try and please the bargain hunters out there they had to stop using quick change rear ends and start using belts to get the cost down. In the end they had to remove so much from the cars to get the price that low that they lost their "SCALE" apeal.
The tooling is said to still be around. But the Skellenger family and their machine shop left years ago to another state. []
Its a real shame that those rears are not around anymore. They were exact replicas of the Halibrand and Winters rears that are used in full size cars. There were a lot of these 1/4 scale rear ends made and there is no shortage of them out there. The problem is that no one really wants to sell them and when they do they go for big money. There were other people that made QC rears but none of them were as nice as the Skellengers.
Jack Skellenger made those rear ends and when he passed his son Steve took over. When the car manufacturers started to make cars for under $900 to try and please the bargain hunters out there they had to stop using quick change rear ends and start using belts to get the cost down. In the end they had to remove so much from the cars to get the price that low that they lost their "SCALE" apeal.
The tooling is said to still be around. But the Skellenger family and their machine shop left years ago to another state. [
]Its a real shame that those rears are not around anymore. They were exact replicas of the Halibrand and Winters rears that are used in full size cars. There were a lot of these 1/4 scale rear ends made and there is no shortage of them out there. The problem is that no one really wants to sell them and when they do they go for big money. There were other people that made QC rears but none of them were as nice as the Skellengers.
Thanks for the info... Has anybody tried to contact Steve? Is he approachable?
09-19-2006, 02:08 PM
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I have been looking for him for some time. I know some people offered to buy the molds throughout the years but he declined. From what I understand he was a great guy and a giant asset to the hobby. With that said, I will say that many of the old manufacturers have no interest in talking about 1/4 scale anymore. These guys poured their heart into these things and a ton of cash and never got a "thanks" from anyone, just people complaining about prices and other manufacturers stealing ideas from each other and designs. 
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
ORIGINAL: garygit
Try new era. I had one of there 1/4 scale trucks and it came with something like a quickchange.
Try new era. I had one of there 1/4 scale trucks and it came with something like a quickchange.
The NE rear was a copy of a Skellenger QC I believe..... New Era no longer makes any 1/4 scale products though, they haven't in years.
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
This is kind of a cheat....but I'll describe my way around this for my project. I started with the all alloy FG diff, with hardened steel internal, and external gears. The small pinion gear ran on a shaft that also held a bevel gear from a right angle drill adapter, this was then mated to another that made it shaft drive. Now for the advantage/disadvantage area:
1. Possibly too big for your application, it was perfect scale size to the layout of most 1/5ths for me, and also fit nicely into the axle area.
2. Gets a shaft drive, which allows an easier transmission setup.
3. (My reason for this setup) More realistic drivetrain.....even if it is not scale size and setup.
Here is a cad version, won't have any real pics until the project is done, but this is finished and works so smoothly I amazed myself.
1. Possibly too big for your application, it was perfect scale size to the layout of most 1/5ths for me, and also fit nicely into the axle area.
2. Gets a shaft drive, which allows an easier transmission setup.
3. (My reason for this setup) More realistic drivetrain.....even if it is not scale size and setup.
Here is a cad version, won't have any real pics until the project is done, but this is finished and works so smoothly I amazed myself.
09-21-2006, 10:50 PM
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
Oh trust me, I was dying for one, I even talked with QS about making one, but my machining fell extremely short. Just don't have the skills, but in the end everything is esaily replaceable so its not a bad trade-off.
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
ORIGINAL: Soloratov
This is kind of a cheat....but I'll describe my way around this for my project. I started with the all alloy FG diff, with hardened steel internal, and external gears. The small pinion gear ran on a shaft that also held a bevel gear from a right angle drill adapter, this was then mated to another that made it shaft drive. Now for the advantage/disadvantage area:
1. Possibly too big for your application, it was perfect scale size to the layout of most 1/5ths for me, and also fit nicely into the axle area.
2. Gets a shaft drive, which allows an easier transmission setup.
3. (My reason for this setup) More realistic drivetrain.....even if it is not scale size and setup.
Here is a cad version, won't have any real pics until the project is done, but this is finished and works so smoothly I amazed myself.
This is kind of a cheat....but I'll describe my way around this for my project. I started with the all alloy FG diff, with hardened steel internal, and external gears. The small pinion gear ran on a shaft that also held a bevel gear from a right angle drill adapter, this was then mated to another that made it shaft drive. Now for the advantage/disadvantage area:
1. Possibly too big for your application, it was perfect scale size to the layout of most 1/5ths for me, and also fit nicely into the axle area.
2. Gets a shaft drive, which allows an easier transmission setup.
3. (My reason for this setup) More realistic drivetrain.....even if it is not scale size and setup.
Here is a cad version, won't have any real pics until the project is done, but this is finished and works so smoothly I amazed myself.
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
Lol, thank you very much, but uh, well I'll be honest, I got the idea from you........sorry. I liked the way your diffs looked, so I used them as a guide, and designed it around that, but for indi suspension instead of swingarm. So I guess I owe credit to you.
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
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Lol, thank you very much, but uh, well I'll be honest, I got the idea from you........sorry. I liked the way your diffs looked, so I used them as a guide, and designed it around that, but for indi suspension instead of swingarm. So I guess I owe credit to you.
Lol, thank you very much, but uh, well I'll be honest, I got the idea from you........sorry. I liked the way your diffs looked, so I used them as a guide, and designed it around that, but for indi suspension instead of swingarm. So I guess I owe credit to you.
I just wanted a housing that would be easy to attach with other assemblies and stuff.
Post some pictures when you make some more progress!
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
I am holding off on posting most of my pics, mostly because I'd rather avoid the long history of recieving negative criticism about my project. It's taking quite a long time to complete, but it's mostly because of motivation......after a full day of work, I'm not all that thrilled about hanging out more to work on it. It's getting there, just very slowly. I'm at a point in the design phase where I need to catch up in the build so I can figure out the last remaining components.
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RE: quarter scale rear ends...?
Yes, I completely understand. I do a lot of design work for a long period of time, and then lay off the machine work. I am more than 4 years into this project and not really close to anything driveable.
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I dont think there are any drawings or paperwork with any of it so any info i can get will help me
Thanks Steve
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10-12-2021, 08:43 PM
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Since this thread has been resurrected and rather than starting a new one, does anyone know what sort of engine/hp/tq will the RC4WD Skellenger style axle safely handle? Obviously a stock Zenoah 22cc is no problem but what about something fairly stock but closer to 50cc in displacement? Anyway, too bad RC4WD never issued true specs like the 1:1 axle manufacturers do....I assume it's been thoroughly tested in the "photocopy" (R&D) phase so its limits should be known.
