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Old 09-18-2006, 08:05 PM
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Does anybody make a Skellenger style quick change? I have been on the look out for a couple of years now. Last I heard about 2 years ago, somebody was making a ring and pinion style quick change rear end. Wonder if that ever happened? Thanks for any information on where I can get one. I always look on Ebay with no luck in 2 years... Or, they go for $4000, which is insane..
Old 09-18-2006, 09:31 PM
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No one that I know of does... the guy on here that claimed he could make them never followed thru with most of his claims of abilities. Ask Quarterscalelegends or go to his website and check it out.... if anyone knows, it is him![sm=thumbup.gif] good luck with the search.... I keep an eye out for them too, I still have the remains of my chain drive 1/4 buggy that would work MUCH better with a QC rear.
Old 09-18-2006, 09:34 PM
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Too bad, thanks. I guess the guy thought how hard and how much money it would really be...
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Yea that guy is still talking bs over on RCGroups. I have a Skellenger ring & pinion but not the case.
Every once in a while you see them on Fleabay, but they can bring over a thousand dollars.
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Who made the Skellenger and why did they quit? DO they still have the tooling for them???
Old 09-19-2006, 01:06 PM
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Jack Skellenger made those rear ends and when he passed his son Steve took over. When the car manufacturers started to make cars for under $900 to try and please the bargain hunters out there they had to stop using quick change rear ends and start using belts to get the cost down. In the end they had to remove so much from the cars to get the price that low that they lost their "SCALE" apeal.

The tooling is said to still be around. But the Skellenger family and their machine shop left years ago to another state. []

Its a real shame that those rears are not around anymore. They were exact replicas of the Halibrand and Winters rears that are used in full size cars. There were a lot of these 1/4 scale rear ends made and there is no shortage of them out there. The problem is that no one really wants to sell them and when they do they go for big money. There were other people that made QC rears but none of them were as nice as the Skellengers.
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ORIGINAL: quarterscalelegends

Jack Skellenger made those rear ends and when he passed his son Steve took over. When the car manufacturers started to make cars for under $900 to try and please the bargain hunters out there they had to stop using quick change rear ends and start using belts to get the cost down. In the end they had to remove so much from the cars to get the price that low that they lost their "SCALE" apeal.

The tooling is said to still be around. But the Skellenger family and their machine shop left years ago to another state. []

Its a real shame that those rears are not around anymore. They were exact replicas of the Halibrand and Winters rears that are used in full size cars. There were a lot of these 1/4 scale rear ends made and there is no shortage of them out there. The problem is that no one really wants to sell them and when they do they go for big money. There were other people that made QC rears but none of them were as nice as the Skellengers.

Thanks for the info... Has anybody tried to contact Steve? Is he approachable?
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I have been looking for him for some time. I know some people offered to buy the molds throughout the years but he declined. From what I understand he was a great guy and a giant asset to the hobby. With that said, I will say that many of the old manufacturers have no interest in talking about 1/4 scale anymore. These guys poured their heart into these things and a ton of cash and never got a "thanks" from anyone, just people complaining about prices and other manufacturers stealing ideas from each other and designs.
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Thats just too sad...
Old 09-20-2006, 01:03 PM
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Try new era. I had one of there 1/4 scale trucks and it came with something like a quickchange.
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ORIGINAL: garygit

Try new era. I had one of there 1/4 scale trucks and it came with something like a quickchange.

The NE rear was a copy of a Skellenger QC I believe..... New Era no longer makes any 1/4 scale products though, they haven't in years.
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This is kind of a cheat....but I'll describe my way around this for my project. I started with the all alloy FG diff, with hardened steel internal, and external gears. The small pinion gear ran on a shaft that also held a bevel gear from a right angle drill adapter, this was then mated to another that made it shaft drive. Now for the advantage/disadvantage area:

1. Possibly too big for your application, it was perfect scale size to the layout of most 1/5ths for me, and also fit nicely into the axle area.
2. Gets a shaft drive, which allows an easier transmission setup.
3. (My reason for this setup) More realistic drivetrain.....even if it is not scale size and setup.

Here is a cad version, won't have any real pics until the project is done, but this is finished and works so smoothly I amazed myself.

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Nice work... I still think the real deal looks so much cooler though...
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Oh trust me, I was dying for one, I even talked with QS about making one, but my machining fell extremely short. Just don't have the skills, but in the end everything is esaily replaceable so its not a bad trade-off.
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ORIGINAL: Soloratov

This is kind of a cheat....but I'll describe my way around this for my project. I started with the all alloy FG diff, with hardened steel internal, and external gears. The small pinion gear ran on a shaft that also held a bevel gear from a right angle drill adapter, this was then mated to another that made it shaft drive. Now for the advantage/disadvantage area:

1. Possibly too big for your application, it was perfect scale size to the layout of most 1/5ths for me, and also fit nicely into the axle area.
2. Gets a shaft drive, which allows an easier transmission setup.
3. (My reason for this setup) More realistic drivetrain.....even if it is not scale size and setup.

Here is a cad version, won't have any real pics until the project is done, but this is finished and works so smoothly I amazed myself.

That is very cool. I wanted to do something similar, but ended up deciding that 1/4 scale is too big. I used 1/8 scale Ofna diff internals, and just made housings to fit. I have to say, that's an awesome design you created.
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Lol, thank you very much, but uh, well I'll be honest, I got the idea from you........sorry. I liked the way your diffs looked, so I used them as a guide, and designed it around that, but for indi suspension instead of swingarm. So I guess I owe credit to you.
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ORIGINAL: Soloratov

Lol, thank you very much, but uh, well I'll be honest, I got the idea from you........sorry. I liked the way your diffs looked, so I used them as a guide, and designed it around that, but for indi suspension instead of swingarm. So I guess I owe credit to you.
Well that's cool. I'm so proud! j/k

I just wanted a housing that would be easy to attach with other assemblies and stuff.

Post some pictures when you make some more progress!
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I am holding off on posting most of my pics, mostly because I'd rather avoid the long history of recieving negative criticism about my project. It's taking quite a long time to complete, but it's mostly because of motivation......after a full day of work, I'm not all that thrilled about hanging out more to work on it. It's getting there, just very slowly. I'm at a point in the design phase where I need to catch up in the build so I can figure out the last remaining components.
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Yes, I completely understand. I do a lot of design work for a long period of time, and then lay off the machine work. I am more than 4 years into this project and not really close to anything driveable.
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It has been a lot of years since this thread started and it has been about that long that I have had this Skellenger ring & pinion. Wonder what it is worth?

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It has been a lot of years since this thread started and it has been about that long that I have had this Skellenger ring & pinion. Wonder what it is worth?

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Hi I will be honest I hve no idea what its worth, or even if I need it, I have just bought a set of castings, Im in UK and castings still in US But Im hoping you may recognice from one of pics of what i bought the rear end in background and tell me if i need to be talking to you about a price, any other info you can give me on any thing will be appreciated, motor is a black widow V8

I dont think there are any drawings or paperwork with any of it so any info i can get will help me

Thanks Steve





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I ended up selling those on ebay for $300 in a matter of hours. All I have left is a 1/4 scale '34 3 window coupe body.
There are some very old posts about 1/4 scale on this forum, but you have to look really deep.


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I ended up selling those on ebay for $300 in a matter of hours. All I have left is a 1/4 scale '34 3 window coupe body.
There are some very old posts about 1/4 scale on this forum, but you have to look really deep.




Thanks large scale seems hard to find information, have been looking for a project for years, think it will be a while before i even see what i have bought, but think i have made a tidy start If i was nearer I would have had the body and used instead of roadster
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