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'PROJECT' Quarterscale Pro Street Beretta

Old 05-17-2009, 10:12 PM
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Looks nice.

Old 05-18-2009, 06:15 PM
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Thanks...

I now have the lower rear end brace all welded... And have started on the case face plate. I shoud have it done and welded in a day or soo. Then i will be building the 3rd member.... I'll post pics tomorrow evening..
Old 05-19-2009, 07:50 PM
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The lower section on the Rear end brace is now done... The face plate & 3 rd member studs is done.. I just need to clean up the welds... Once completed i will then build the 3rd member..... Thats going to be a challenge to build if i ever seen one.Lol..
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:22 PM
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Default RE: 'PROJECT' Quarterscale Pro Street Beretta

you have been a very busy boy! Looks great so far. Keep it up, thats a great project there.
Old 05-19-2009, 10:24 PM
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thanks for the updates! I love it
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Default RE: 'PROJECT' Quarterscale Pro Street Beretta

Hello again, (you got PM)
well, this is taking shape very nicely!!!
Are you starting again with the chassis?
S/S must be a bugger to weld all those tubes....I'm lucky the only S/S welding was on my front axle & steering hubs.

Keep us updated!!
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Nice .

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Default RE: 'PROJECT' Quarterscale Pro Street Beretta

QSL... Thanks.... Yes it's a huge project... No JB Weld in this baby!!

SPEEDY.... Thanks

MUDGY... Thanks.... Yes is a new chassis & design.... It's built like a 25.2 ProMod Chassis give or take a bunch of mods.... Yes the S/S is a buger to weld... It's not nessasarly hard to weld it's hard not to burn a whole in it while welding... My wire feed is set to below 1 Perhaps 1/2 feed and it's still hard to weld... Iv'e burnt througn many places... I just fill the hole with more weld.... Go figure... I dread grinding/filing all them joints...

NUTECH GMBH... Thanks...

Thanks again guys
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yea, it will probably work better without the JB



Looks like you have spent more time grinding then welding thats hard work.

Old 05-20-2009, 06:12 PM
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Default RE: 'PROJECT' Quarterscale Pro Street Beretta

I got the 1st 3rd member plate cut out and ready to be shaped up with the grinding wheel now.... There will be 4 of the plates that i will weld together once completed... The ring gear potrudes the case by 3/8'' so i need to mount the 3rd member at 1/2'' The 3rd member is going to be a simple dead on style gear mesh... Not like most off set gear mesh 3 rd members are... I would like to build it this way but i can't find anyone willing to cut splines for the gear or spline the axle ends.... I do have a nice mill and probably could do it myself.... But i don't have the time....
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Old 05-20-2009, 06:42 PM
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O.K. Guys.... I have been getting a bunch of emails/PM's regarding the Beretta project.... First of all i want to thank you all for the complements...

Now.... First off.. I do NOT plan on producing these Sheet Metal type Rear ends... I'm not saying i won't build one for somone in the future... I just don't have the time at the moment... There will be prints avalable on the Beratta Chassis & Rear end in a few months.... Then you build your own... Fun! Fun! Fun!..... Now as for what machines I'm using to build the rear end.... ZIP............ The Rear end is all hand built.... The only power tools i use is a rotory tool,, Variable speed drill,,, With 4'' gringing disc.. Drill press..

O.K. A few of you said in the emails that you don't think that this chassis is new... You think it's just my old Beretta chassis and i just fabracated it... WRONG... 1st off all the 1st Beretta chassis was a built like a spotrsman chassis... This one is built around a 25.2 ProMod chassis...Although the 1st Beretta chassis is now mostly scrap... The back half is still intact... So i set them side by side in these shots to prove my point on this...

Here are a few shots of the Rear end dimmensions for those that asked me to post pics on the size of it..
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:34 PM
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yea, it will probably work better without the JB



Looks like you have spent more time grinding then welding thats hard work.

You ain't a kidden.... Iv'e probably spent at least 10 hours grinding on the Rear end.... But it's well worth it to me.... I want this baby to look sweet when done! I'll never use that JB Weld crap again

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dont worry bro, its friggen sweet!
your doing a great job.
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yea, it will probably work better without the JB



Looks like you have spent more time grinding then welding thats hard work.

You ain't a kidden.... Iv'e probably spent at least 10 hours grinding on the Rear end.... But it's well worth it to me.... I want this baby to look sweet when done! I'll never use that JB Weld crap again

Old 05-20-2009, 11:49 PM
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That is some serious fabrication in that diff, bloody great job mate.........
Wouldnt mind a set of the drawings you offered, that would look perfect in the dragster i`m planning. When do you think you will get them up on your site?
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:32 AM
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Thanks guys!!!

I love fabricating things.... The 3rd member is going to be a true test on my fabracating skills... As many of you know them gears must mesh together correctly....

Here are a few more pics of it... I was also asked what type of gringing wheels i use... Well i first use the masonry grinding wheel to take down the welds quickly... Then i finish off the major grinding of the welds with the standard grinding wheel..... I cut all my stock with my rotary tool using DREMEL EZ Lock Cutting disc # EZ456

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Old 05-21-2009, 07:55 AM
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If you want to build one for your dragster you will need to build it more like these pics....
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Thanks for the pics mate, i love to be able to work from something like that......

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yea, it will probably work better without the JB



Looks like you have spent more time grinding then welding thats hard work.

You ain't a kidden.... Iv'e probably spent at least 10 hours grinding on the Rear end.... But it's well worth it to me.... I want this baby to look sweet when done! I'll never use that JB Weld crap again

hi i need to ask a question i dont know how to weld could i use jb weld to build the frame ? will it stick good ? thanks
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TROPPO... Not a problem..... Thats pretty much what i did.... What i do is just print it out on the printer in the correct scale as needed. Then cut it out and use it as a template.... Follow Me??? Let me know if you need more dragster rear end shots... I have a ton of them.... Any type of car as far as that goes. LOL...

Heres a few shots of the picture of what i built my rear end from..... It's pefect scale... When scaled to an 8'' X 10'' on the printer... The 3rd member is a perfect scale printed as Index Card. 3'' X 5'' Just a little trick of the trade....
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KENAZZO 2000..

I wouldn't recommend using JB Weld on squat.... The problem with JB weld is not in the adhesion...It will crack at the joint over time.... Now when i first started building the 1st Beretta with it, it held up quite well. But the more & more i built it up and as the heavyier it got the joints started cracking... Note the Beretta was 1/3 scale not 1/4 scale so it was a little larger..... Iv'e know many people that run 1/8 scale cars that have used it to lock there diffs and it works quite well.... But when it comes to these monsters where building i would stay away from it.... unless you want to repair the joints all the time like i did on the 1st beretta build.....

Now as far the welding goes.... If you don't know how to weld why don't you locate someone that can weld your chassis up... Or better yet.... Buy some books on welding and teach yourself how to weld.... It's simple once you get the hang of it.... Welders are fairly cheap as well.... Not mention it cant hurt to have one in the garage incase you need to repair something else.... Most would say TIG is your best bet... As far the weld being super clean and no splatter... and a tad stronger than a MIG... But a MIG using good quality flux core wire is all you need to weld up a 1/4 scale chassis or do repairs on your automobile.... Most MIGs will weld up to 1/4'' steel with no issues... Beyond that the TIG is a must.....

Good Luck !!
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KENAZZO 2000..

I wouldn't recommend using JB Weld on squat.... The problem with JB weld is not in the adhesion...It will crack at the joint over time.... Now when i first started building the 1st Beretta with it, it held up quite well. But the more & more i built it up and as the heavyier it got the joints started cracking... Note the Beretta was 1/3 scale not 1/4 scale so it was a little larger..... Iv'e know many people that run 1/8 scale cars that have used it to lock there diffs and it works quite well.... But when it comes to these monsters where building i would stay away from it.... unless you want to repair the joints all the time like i did on the 1st beretta build.....

Now as far the welding goes.... If you don't know how to weld why don't you locate someone that can weld your chassis up... Or better yet.... Buy some books on welding and teach yourself how to weld.... It's simple once you get the hang of it.... Welders are fairly cheap as well.... Not mention it cant hurt to have one in the garage incase you need to repair something else.... Most would say TIG is your best bet... As far the weld being super clean and no splatter... and a tad stronger than a MIG... But a MIG using good quality flux core wire is all you need to weld up a 1/4 scale chassis or do repairs on your automobile.... Most MIGs will weld up to 1/4'' steel with no issues... Beyond that the TIG is a must.....

Good Luck !!
thanks for the information ill try to invent something might buy a tig or mig
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Cool!!

If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask.
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G`day Kennazzo
If your going to buy a welder go for a mig, they are cheaper, easier to use and very versatile. Your best bet would be to find someone who knows how to use one properly to show you how to set it up and teach you how to use it. Half an hour with someone who knows what they are doing is better than weeks on your own. Practice on thicker material until you can lay a decent bead and then play with some thin stock before you destroy your chassis tubing lol. A mig can weld anything from .6mm steel up to 1/2 inch plate (with the right size welder and technique). It gets very difficult to weld without blowing holes when you get into the thinner materials.
Good luck and go burn some metal.
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I had planed on telling him this as well but wanted to wait to see if you was really going to purchase a welder..... I agree with you on this.... DO NOT!!
Try welding up that chassis until you have played around with it.... Once you get the hang of it welding is simple.... Not that i know much about welding....lol.lol..
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Thanks for the extra pics mate, i was planning to use a toro rear end or maybe even a grinder head but seeing your work has given me the incentive to look into doing one from scratch. Just out of curiosity, what size axle are you going with? And what rear wheels are you using?

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