Here again...introductions ...been 10 years. HELLO
12-19-2019, 06:31 PM
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Here again...introductions ...been 10 years. HELLO
Hello ALL,
Just wanted to say hello, I was on here ten years ago last time I was in the hobby. LIFE HAPPENS. My daughter got really interested in dirt diggers so as I was spending the cash to get her started out with her first RTR Traxxas rig for testing her dedication. I got jealous......wow there are some good deals out there on birds.....
Ended up with a TREX 470 LM Dominator and a DX8....no tools, no nothing starting over. Flybarless...hmmm. ESC and Gyro programming ..HMMM. Real radio for the first time...and throttle and swash programming ...hmmmm. LOL! Seems like a good kit, typical crap fasteners but everything else seems gtg. Confesion: The pinnacle of my CCPM experience was simply ESKY Honey Bee King V2 with better motors and heads on them. So the Align Kit is a major step, too much Heli for me. I always had an issue with seeing the little Esky birds....painted dayglo colors on them to tell orientation. This is a decent scale up and for my park flying aspirations will probably be a solid investment. It certainly has way more capability then I will test ANYtime soon.
So advance apologies for redundant stoopid questions...I will try to look and read before I ask. Right now I am primarily interested in proper setup and making the 470 soft enough I can re-teach my thumbs and grow from there. Also build and setup. I ordered 6s packs...but I believe with this setup I can run 3s if I want to. 6s packs seem overwhelming to me ....the hard parts alone are at 3lbs which with my limited experience seems crazy. If the cg works good in the frame with the 6s then no biggie to me. Just seems like large batts for this size bird......hot rod....overpowered....I dunno. I know I will definitely be fastener shopping as I am highly unimpressed with the stock hardware. Especially the little cap screws...dont strip those soft bastages. Socket heads will replace ALL those.
Lot to learn before I get that first hover (on this bird) in. Building in a hotel has its own challenges. I am a full gypsy in what I do for a living, a travel trailer is a home to me. I am a meticulous sort of person. Maybe that also is part of the attraction to the hobby. Planes are fun but Helis are such a challenge, from a flying standpoint, maybe that is why I like them. I just remember I had fun when I was doing it before...hope to have some fun again.
See you folks out there.
Take Care and Enjoy Yourself
Tommy
Just wanted to say hello, I was on here ten years ago last time I was in the hobby. LIFE HAPPENS. My daughter got really interested in dirt diggers so as I was spending the cash to get her started out with her first RTR Traxxas rig for testing her dedication. I got jealous......wow there are some good deals out there on birds.....
Ended up with a TREX 470 LM Dominator and a DX8....no tools, no nothing starting over. Flybarless...hmmm. ESC and Gyro programming ..HMMM. Real radio for the first time...and throttle and swash programming ...hmmmm. LOL! Seems like a good kit, typical crap fasteners but everything else seems gtg. Confesion: The pinnacle of my CCPM experience was simply ESKY Honey Bee King V2 with better motors and heads on them. So the Align Kit is a major step, too much Heli for me. I always had an issue with seeing the little Esky birds....painted dayglo colors on them to tell orientation. This is a decent scale up and for my park flying aspirations will probably be a solid investment. It certainly has way more capability then I will test ANYtime soon.
So advance apologies for redundant stoopid questions...I will try to look and read before I ask. Right now I am primarily interested in proper setup and making the 470 soft enough I can re-teach my thumbs and grow from there. Also build and setup. I ordered 6s packs...but I believe with this setup I can run 3s if I want to. 6s packs seem overwhelming to me ....the hard parts alone are at 3lbs which with my limited experience seems crazy. If the cg works good in the frame with the 6s then no biggie to me. Just seems like large batts for this size bird......hot rod....overpowered....I dunno. I know I will definitely be fastener shopping as I am highly unimpressed with the stock hardware. Especially the little cap screws...dont strip those soft bastages. Socket heads will replace ALL those.
Lot to learn before I get that first hover (on this bird) in. Building in a hotel has its own challenges. I am a full gypsy in what I do for a living, a travel trailer is a home to me. I am a meticulous sort of person. Maybe that also is part of the attraction to the hobby. Planes are fun but Helis are such a challenge, from a flying standpoint, maybe that is why I like them. I just remember I had fun when I was doing it before...hope to have some fun again.
See you folks out there.
Take Care and Enjoy Yourself
Tommy
05-19-2020, 08:11 PM
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Hi Tommy,
Congrats on getting a very nice heli to get back into the hobby. Leaps and bounds better than the old Esky stuff you had. I had a Honey Bee CP2 to learn on. Even went full separates with GY401 and still wasn't that stable. At least the King you had was better than that
I would be more than happy to help you get setup as I have Trex 450L Dominator running 6S with a VBAR. Nice thing about 6S is everything stays much cooler than 3s even with 3D flying. Feel free to drop me a PM and we can figure something out like a phone call or zoom so we can discuss heli setup and get your TX properly configured 
Mike
Congrats on getting a very nice heli to get back into the hobby. Leaps and bounds better than the old Esky stuff you had. I had a Honey Bee CP2 to learn on. Even went full separates with GY401 and still wasn't that stable. At least the King you had was better than that
I would be more than happy to help you get setup as I have Trex 450L Dominator running 6S with a VBAR. Nice thing about 6S is everything stays much cooler than 3s even with 3D flying. Feel free to drop me a PM and we can figure something out like a phone call or zoom so we can discuss heli setup and get your TX properly configured Mike
10-04-2020, 03:09 PM
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Winger,
Thank you much for your offer of help. I really must sincerely apologize for such a derelict late reply.....I work on the road constantly and the whole Covid thing has made it a real chore.
One thing about the Esky stuff..everything had a certain amount of "flex" made for a soft flying kinda thing. Which I can consider somewhat forgiving.
I have had time to figure out the 470Trex. I have not programmed in recovery into the Beast X but I am considering trying it out. I have had a few crashes, once losing it in the sun and a kamikaze nosedive to the ground....pulled out just in time to make it look like a fast car wreck! lol. The rest I simply lost orientation from flying a little to large a circuit. Nothing bad....typical damage.
I do not have a "sport" setup in my throttle and pitch curves anymore. I figure I might as well get comfortable with it at full pitch (85% throttle) and leave it there. Just flying simple circuits with a few moves here and there. Working way too much to spend any time practicing for 3d moves....leave that to the sim for now. About 30 flights in so far, still getting use to the weight. The Beast X is super sensitive to errant vibration...blade tracking, tail blades slapping....I don't even try to really determine main shaft deflection after a crash....just replace it. I tried about 4 flights with what I found out to be a .004 deflection in the main shaft. Flew like hammered crap. Tried the extended tail blades....I do not know why but tail control was not as good. Another thing I really think is crap is the whole tail setup. The tiny thrust bearings do not last long. They are also hard to find! Overall compared to the rest of the build the tail has a lot of slop quickly and is on the weak side. Be better if they put bearings in the arms instead of the bushings, they require constant care.
So far I think it is an amazing setup stock. Way more agility, power and response then I could possibly test at this point. I need to try some expo on my radio because it does seem a little difficult vertically at hover. Jumpy.
I will get in touch with you.
Thank you much for your offer of help. I really must sincerely apologize for such a derelict late reply.....I work on the road constantly and the whole Covid thing has made it a real chore.
One thing about the Esky stuff..everything had a certain amount of "flex" made for a soft flying kinda thing. Which I can consider somewhat forgiving.
I have had time to figure out the 470Trex. I have not programmed in recovery into the Beast X but I am considering trying it out. I have had a few crashes, once losing it in the sun and a kamikaze nosedive to the ground....pulled out just in time to make it look like a fast car wreck! lol. The rest I simply lost orientation from flying a little to large a circuit. Nothing bad....typical damage.
I do not have a "sport" setup in my throttle and pitch curves anymore. I figure I might as well get comfortable with it at full pitch (85% throttle) and leave it there. Just flying simple circuits with a few moves here and there. Working way too much to spend any time practicing for 3d moves....leave that to the sim for now. About 30 flights in so far, still getting use to the weight. The Beast X is super sensitive to errant vibration...blade tracking, tail blades slapping....I don't even try to really determine main shaft deflection after a crash....just replace it. I tried about 4 flights with what I found out to be a .004 deflection in the main shaft. Flew like hammered crap. Tried the extended tail blades....I do not know why but tail control was not as good. Another thing I really think is crap is the whole tail setup. The tiny thrust bearings do not last long. They are also hard to find! Overall compared to the rest of the build the tail has a lot of slop quickly and is on the weak side. Be better if they put bearings in the arms instead of the bushings, they require constant care.
So far I think it is an amazing setup stock. Way more agility, power and response then I could possibly test at this point. I need to try some expo on my radio because it does seem a little difficult vertically at hover. Jumpy.
I will get in touch with you.
