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n553302 06-21-2004 12:18 PM

???AUTO ROTATION???
 
Can anyone give me alittle insight on auto rotation? I have search the web for information and on all the sites that I have found have only a short paragraph on the subject and many of them appear to be just copies of others. I taught myself to fly heli in my garage this past winter with a FEDA Dragonfly, no instructor, this spring I bought a used Concept 30 DX installed a new OS 32 and a new futaba receiver and bb servos. I set it up, once again without the luxury of an expert instructor and am currently fling this one outside. My setup must be close enough because on a windless day I can let go of the sticks for a few seconds and the machine will hang motionless. I feel the need to deal with an engine flame out. If it flies does this mean that it will auto rotate??? Throttle lock is setup just haven't worked up the nerve to hit the switch. Come on all you experts, set me straight. Thanks Rick

day_fiend 06-21-2004 01:18 PM

RE: ???AUTO ROTATION???
 
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/What...1908696/tm.htm

That might have the information you're looking for.

n553302 06-21-2004 05:51 PM

RE: ???AUTO ROTATION???
 
Thanks day_friend
I was looking outside of these wall. Should of looked harder inside of RCU.

FBaity 06-22-2004 04:18 PM

RE: ???AUTO ROTATION???
 
Just because the heli will hover doesn't mean it will auto. You should set up throttle hold to get a good engine idle and about 10 degrees pitch on a Concept 30 and you will need some fairly heavy blades. I learned to auto with a Concept 30 using G blades which are not aviable anymore but the foam or wood jobs will not hack it on that machine. Start your first autos from a hover and get a feel for how the pitch can stop the heli. Forward flight is a different ball game but it sounds like you are not there yet.

n553302 06-22-2004 11:54 PM

RE: ???AUTO ROTATION???
 
Thanks for the reply FBaity
I'm not familiar with the term 'G blade' I do have the foam blades what sort of problems could I expect with them? It has the heavy metal flybar paddles. As for the 10 degree pitch, it does have more like 12 degree at full stick and -2 with stick at idle position. Does this sound reasonable? It climbs out just fine and the decent is controllable.

Spaceman Spiff 06-23-2004 12:17 AM

RE: ???AUTO ROTATION???
 
Fbaity is right, you should be pretty solid with forward flight before attempting this.

FBaity 06-23-2004 11:21 AM

RE: ???AUTO ROTATION???
 
The foam blades are just fine for learning to hover but do not arrempt even a hovering auto with them. Your pitch range sounds ok for learner set up but once you get into forword flight I would recomment a little more neg at bottom stick. I order to shoot autos you are going to have to some deacent glass blades that are heavy but I can't really tell from your post where you are in the learning curve, good luck and pratice, pratice.

n553302 06-23-2004 09:44 PM

RE: ???AUTO ROTATION???
 
Thanks guys, I'm understanding what I'm reading , practice, plan on blades, credit card time. Flying curve, solid hover, limited forward, back, to the right and left, NO head on. The head on is a mind thing, I'll work it out. Not interested in 3D, more scale like. Later


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