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RCFIREWINGS-delete 05-09-2003 07:20 AM

RC Mark
 
what kind of electric RC heli doesnt need any expericerence to fly, you can learn on your own with a training gear. I wask thinking about getting the one at www.hobby-lobby. It is called Echo.

dioncuda 05-09-2003 08:03 AM

RC Mark
 
hey, to be 14 you are up late:)i think any rc aircraft needs some kind of training.with a helper = less money,by yourself=more money.i see you want a sail boat,nitro car,sky diver.alot of rc stuff out there,dont get into a big hurry to make a choice.rc can be a life time hobby,if you get the right help.and RCU is the place to do it.and i wish you luck :)

spurry 05-09-2003 08:06 AM

RC Mark
 
The echo is a great electric heli, but it wouldn't knock the socks off of a 30! :)

If you really want to go down the electric powered route, then that is not a bad choice. Just remember to think about what else might be involved.

Like the flight times are only a few minutes a flight compared to 15 mins on an engine one.

Once the battery is flat, that's it for the day, unless you invest in a fast charger or other spare battery packs. With a engine heli, you just fill it up with more fuel.

To increase their flight time, they are built alot lighter, this makes them alot more fragile so everytime you crash, there may be quite a mess.

Some good points are they are quiet, so you can fly in your back garden.

I personally couldn't be bothered to cycle the batteries and do all the other stuff involved and I only have enough money for my raptor at the moment, but when I'm older and am really good at flying, then I'll get one as a 'toy' so I can just fly around inside on a rainy day.

spurry 05-09-2003 08:25 AM

Oh right,
 
Just seen dioncuda's post. Don't get one just for the sake of it! When I was your age I always wanted everyting. I loved to see the big boys play with their nitro cars. I then moved onto dreaming about planes. From the age of 10, that was all I wanted for X-Mas. :) I used to go and watch them at a club for many years. Only when I was 15.5 did I get one. It cost about £300 for everything I needed. It was funded by myself. I think I sold my playstations and stuff. It was the best thing I had ever set my hands on.

I flew planes for a year, got bored and went after heli's. I ended up with a 2nd hand (probably 22nd hand) Hirobo Shuttle ZX which was about 15 years old. It got me through hovering and I could even loop it and do other aerobatics. It cost £200 for the whole setup.

If it's just RC stuff that you're interested in, start off with what you really want, it is unlikely that you will manage to get a Skydiver, car, boat, plane and heli. Start off with something like a basic plane or heli. Get all your equipment and then, when you save up some more, just buy a different model and you'll already have the gear.

Whatever you get, whether it be plane or heli, you'll love it! :D Flying my plane for the first time in my life has got to be the most enjoyable thing I have ever done. The feeling you get on your first flight is pure exhilerating. I remember driving my plane around on a field and then all of a sudden the bloody thing hit a bump and took off, that was my first flight and I'll remember it for all my life cos I had been dreaming about that moment for many years before.

James

FLYBOY 05-09-2003 02:50 PM

RC Mark
 
Like spurry said, and many others have said to you many many times, if you buy a cheap "TOY" rc, you will be throwing a lot of money away and get maybe one or two flights before it is trashed. RC helicopters are not hard, but if you are impatient, they are almost impossible.

If you are serious about getting into RC, figure out where you want to start, cars, planes, helis, and then find someone that can help you and a club.

I would suggest starting with a .40 size gas trainer and a good 6 ch radio and a good engine. Get an instructor and learn to build it and fly it. It will last a long time. You can get into helis later. It will be easier then. You can do them first if you want, but get a good sim first.

I have seen the electric helis and I really don't think they make a great trainer. My boss had one and the parts were expensive, and the heli didn't fly well. I dont think you can beat a raptor 30 as a trainer from what I have seen.

RCFIREWINGS-delete 05-09-2003 02:53 PM

RC Mark
 
ok I will think and research more about RC helicopters

FLYBOY 05-09-2003 03:04 PM

RC Mark
 
Just looked at your eco 8 again and you would be way better off with something like a raptor. You can get a new one with engine for about $389 or a used one with engine for about $250. Find a good used radio and you are in it about the same price as the eco and it is 10 times the machine.

Electrics will be better someday, but right now, they aren't there.

spurry 05-09-2003 03:29 PM

RC Mark
 

RCFIREWINGS wrote on 05-09-2003 4:47 PM:
hi I am going to get the Eco 8 from hobby-lobby. I think it is a great deal becasue it is electric. What is your option on this?
Just because it is electric doesn't mean it is a good deal. It is a good heli though, and you could learn some stuff on it. If you do prefer electric heli's then it is a good choice.But you will only get one +-7 minute flight per day. :( So you will have to get yourself a simulator, a few battery packs or a fast charger so you can get more practice.
If you're going for electrics simply because they are cheaper, then you should also look at what it's going to cost you to get adequate flying time. Once you've got yourself the heli, a few battery packs, a good charger etc etc. , you could of got a cheap 30 sized heli for the same price. But the choice is yours. :)
James

RCFIREWINGS-delete 05-09-2003 03:40 PM

From Mark
 
the raptor is too much money it is 1000.00 just to get started and if i break it i have to buy another one. I will just by batteries so i have more flight time. It comes with a fast charger.

spurry 05-09-2003 04:38 PM

Wo, Wo Wo Wo!
 
If you were to crash a raptor, you DEFINITELY DON'T need to buy another one!!!!! Especially for $1000 ! I think a crash kit costs around $40 and you may break a few pieces here and there so add on $20 to that. There aren't many crashes that would cost you more than $100 to repair.

If you flew and crashed a electric heli, micro or otherwise, the parts are more expensive and you probably would be better off buying another one.

As for the $1000 start up price. I'm sure if you looked around you could definitely get a whole setup for a lot less than that. Maybe half of that. Take a look on eBay or in your local papers or in a heli magazine.

James

Raptor-30-V2 05-09-2003 08:05 PM

RC Mark
 
Take a look at this one:

http://cgi.*********/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...category=19164

700 $ - And thats everything you will need. (except the simulator)

Ore this one:

http://cgi.*********/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...category=19164

spurry 05-09-2003 08:44 PM

RC Mark
 
Once you click on them and it doesn't work, take out all the stars and type ebay . com .

On the top link, have a look at those skids! :) Many people. included myself, have followed advice to turn the skids around, but I think he misunderstood! That is the first I've seen. It's about to keel over.

You see, the raptors aren't expensive. It's just everything else you need to get up and running. Which you would have to buy for an electric one anyway. On any of your posts, I don't think I've seen one reply from someone that actually thinks choosing a little electric helicopter for a beginner over the raptor is the way to go. Take it from all these guys. They've been in the hobby most of their life and really know what they are on about. Don't go the cheaper route for the sake of $100 or so. You'll lose out in the long run. If you can't get a raptor now ( or other 30 ) just save up and wait. I waited 2 and a half years till I go tmy first one! :D

James

RCFIREWINGS-delete 05-15-2003 09:25 PM

RC Mark
 
ok but I still prefer electric over gas. I like electric you can fly them indors. It will be my first heli so I want to start small.

flmgrip 05-16-2003 12:29 AM

RC Mark
 
you are making every mistake in the book of a beginner, but you are more stubborn and not perceptible to good advice than any other guy i have seen.
you go right ahead and a buy an e-heli, think it's cheaper, easier, safer and think you can fly indoors... but don't come back here and whine and complain... a lot of folks tried to tell you differently...
good luck, i for myself will stop responding to your questions, since you do not take advice anyway... unless it is what you want to hear :)
good luck to you and please don't hurt yourself.

RCFIREWINGS-delete 05-16-2003 02:47 PM

RC Mark
 
ok


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