SCEADU EVO 50 or RAPTOR 50
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ive had many people tell me that the sceadu's fly better than the raptor, but from what ive seen and experienced (very little lol) the raptor is more for taking the bangs....
just subtle differances like spares prices, availability (and a more'springy' undercarriage, but that probably make little differance lol)
i went for a sceadu over the raptor, because i didnt like the look of the raptor basically... i think unless you are a very good pilot, you wont notice a differance, and you should really put it down to prefferance, looks, and parts availibility
just subtle differances like spares prices, availability (and a more'springy' undercarriage, but that probably make little differance lol)
i went for a sceadu over the raptor, because i didnt like the look of the raptor basically... i think unless you are a very good pilot, you wont notice a differance, and you should really put it down to prefferance, looks, and parts availibility
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RE: SCEADU EVO 50 or RAPTOR 50
The EVO is a little cheaper than the Raptor at heliproz.com The evo is $589 with 600mm mavrick blades and hyper engine and free shipping. I forgot the raptors price but i know it was more. I am still learning rite now but i want a heli that will be waiting on me not me waiting on it. How much price difference is there on standard crash parts? I just want the best i can buy in a 50 size and i like the looks of the evo.
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if I were you, I would go for a raptor... Just for the fact that everyone has one, so you can get help much easier... Also, parts are easier to come by.
Its up to you though.
Its up to you though.
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I'll throw in my opinion here. Look at the Caliber 5. It's $299 plus another $179 for the hyper. That'll get you an excellent flying heli with carbon mains included as well as other parts that are considered upgrades on the Raptor for over $100 less than the Raptor.
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The aileron and elevator servos are on a free floating tray that moves fore and aft to provide collective. How is the sliding tray any worse than a Raptor that has the aileron servo in a tray that moves up and down for collective? You are right about eCCPM, you have to buy a linkage kit in order to have this option. I think that runs $40 or so but I personally prefer mechanical mixing anyway. Easier to setup IMO.
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Kyosho changes models every few years then support disappears for the older models. You could have the first Raptor off the assembly line and be able to get parts or upgrade kits for it now.
As for the other 2 they are both quality machines and you would be happy with either one. The EVO has push pull on all the linkages which makes it cost a few dollars more. They both fly from mild to wild stock and there's a few upgrades that either could use but don't really require. The EVO has mCCPM, the ccpm version costs a few more bucks.
As for the other 2 they are both quality machines and you would be happy with either one. The EVO has push pull on all the linkages which makes it cost a few dollars more. They both fly from mild to wild stock and there's a few upgrades that either could use but don't really require. The EVO has mCCPM, the ccpm version costs a few more bucks.
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if I were you, I would go for a raptor... Just for the fact that everyone has one, so you can get help much easier... Also, parts are easier to come by.
Its up to you though.
if I were you, I would go for a raptor... Just for the fact that everyone has one, so you can get help much easier... Also, parts are easier to come by.
Its up to you though.
While I agree it's a good idea to get what others fly in your area, I don't agree with you saying everyone has one, they are not that common these days. Where I fly there are no Raptors, a few Hirrobos, and a few JR machines....
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Well i changed my mined i'm not going to get the raptor i'm going to get the EVO. A friend of mine put on a show for me today with his EVO 50 and man i like that thing ,so the EVO it is.
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Well i changed my mined i'm not going to get the raptor i'm going to get the EVO. A friend of mine put on a show for me today with his EVO 50 and man i like that thing ,so the EVO it is.
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Well i changed my mined i'm not going to get the raptor i'm going to get the EVO. A friend of mine put on a show for me today with his EVO 50 and man i like that thing ,so the EVO it is.
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I might but for now i ordered a Evo 50 with the hyper engine and a Curtis Youngblood pipe, i got it from heliproz.
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You'll be very happy with it.
Its nothing like raptortechnique but http://www.hirobotechnique.com has some good stuff and tips for that heli.
Its nothing like raptortechnique but http://www.hirobotechnique.com has some good stuff and tips for that heli.
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RE: SCEADU EVO 50 or RAPTOR 50
Good luck with your choice. My first was a Raptor 50 (and my second!) but I have since acquired an Evo 50. I don't think you could go wrong with either machine. Parts for the Raptor are a little cheaper and easier to find in most areas though.
As for which brand is the most common, that depends on the area. If there is a strong dealer for Kyosho or Hirobo in an area then they will be the most common. If Raptor has a good dealer in the area then they will be most common. It is usually best when starting out to get the same equipment that most of the people in your area are using. That way they will be able to help you more since they already know what works on their equipment and they are more comfortable with yours.
I have done quite a bit of business with Heliproz and have never been disappointed and I am sure you will have the same experience. They seem to keep a good stock of spares for everything that they sell so you should not have any problems finding what you need.
Have a great time and take advantage of all of the help available to you and it will be well worth the effort.
As for which brand is the most common, that depends on the area. If there is a strong dealer for Kyosho or Hirobo in an area then they will be the most common. If Raptor has a good dealer in the area then they will be most common. It is usually best when starting out to get the same equipment that most of the people in your area are using. That way they will be able to help you more since they already know what works on their equipment and they are more comfortable with yours.
I have done quite a bit of business with Heliproz and have never been disappointed and I am sure you will have the same experience. They seem to keep a good stock of spares for everything that they sell so you should not have any problems finding what you need.
Have a great time and take advantage of all of the help available to you and it will be well worth the effort.
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Here is what I always recomend in all of my equipment specific hobbies (skydiving, SCUBA diving, RC, Flying...ect)
Go to the local (insert place where you do said hobby) and look left and right. If you see more of "X" than "Y", get "X" since there is a reason.
Those reasons can be:
1. People get "X" for a good price.
2. "X" has more support in the area.
What this means is when you have a problem, someone will be able to help you if you have a popular piece of equipment. More people have "X" and that means you will not be left alone with no clue what to do. Case in point, I needed a clutch at the field one day and a guy had one sitting in his field box, and I was flying an hour latter. If I had a heli that was less popular (at that field), that would not have happend.
Nothing sucks more than having a problem and nobody knows how to fix it....
Just general advice.
BTW the most popular really just depends on what part of the country you are....Or even what the local hobby shop carries or pushes.
FWIW, I had the same question, and BOTH were very popular in my area....I got the EVO only because I found one used for 200 bucks.
Go to the local (insert place where you do said hobby) and look left and right. If you see more of "X" than "Y", get "X" since there is a reason.
Those reasons can be:
1. People get "X" for a good price.
2. "X" has more support in the area.
What this means is when you have a problem, someone will be able to help you if you have a popular piece of equipment. More people have "X" and that means you will not be left alone with no clue what to do. Case in point, I needed a clutch at the field one day and a guy had one sitting in his field box, and I was flying an hour latter. If I had a heli that was less popular (at that field), that would not have happend.
Nothing sucks more than having a problem and nobody knows how to fix it....
Just general advice.
BTW the most popular really just depends on what part of the country you are....Or even what the local hobby shop carries or pushes.
FWIW, I had the same question, and BOTH were very popular in my area....I got the EVO only because I found one used for 200 bucks.
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RE: SCEADU EVO 50 or RAPTOR 50
Thanks for the input guys. The fact is that our local hobby shop does not deal with helis that much(except the blade cp) so almost any heli would be the most popular around here. haha. Well a friend of mine has a Evo 50 and he will be able to help me with it,as a matter of a fact he was here yesturday and i coped he's setup from his 9c into my 9c for the evo. I decided to get the Evo 50 from heliproz and it came in yesturday. I got the hyper 50 with the Curtis Youngblood pipe,401gyro with 9254 servo and 600mm mavrick blades and a oneway bearing starter shaft i'm also putting in a fromeco 2400mah lipo battery and a split regulator. I have some hitec 5945's i think thats the # digital servos for cyclic and a futaba 3004 for throttle and a futaba pcm rx. I have not started on it yet because my Trex parts also come in so i can put it back together from the little crash i had last week, but i'm learning. What do you guys think of my setup on the Evo?
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I just got a Raptor 50 with the 401, Hyper 50, 9C with 9254's....so maybe we can compare notes.....
It was a toss up for me. I like the looks of the EVO but everyone and their brother flies Raptors at my club...so that was the smart move.
Maybe someday I will own both... Seams like the 50's are very popular...
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It was a toss up for me. I like the looks of the EVO but everyone and their brother flies Raptors at my club...so that was the smart move.
Maybe someday I will own both... Seams like the 50's are very popular...
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Fifty's are popular for several reasons. First they are stable to learn on and when you progress they have enough capability to keep you interested. Second they are cheap to repair and cheap on fuel usage. Third they are very hard to beat for initial cost to purchase ans set up. They are also easier to transport due to size than some of the larger birds. For those reasons, I will probably always own at least one 50 size heli and probably more. Of course, most of us do try more than one brand so the likelihood that you will own an Evo in the future is very good.
Barracudahockey is right, http://www.raptortechnique.com/ is a great source to learn about building, setup and flying of your new Raptors. Every new Raptor pilot can save himself a lot of time and effort by using the information available there.
Fifty's are popular for several reasons. First they are stable to learn on and when you progress they have enough capability to keep you interested. Second they are cheap to repair and cheap on fuel usage. Third they are very hard to beat for initial cost to purchase ans set up. They are also easier to transport due to size than some of the larger birds. For those reasons, I will probably always own at least one 50 size heli and probably more. Of course, most of us do try more than one brand so the likelihood that you will own an Evo in the future is very good.
Barracudahockey is right, http://www.raptortechnique.com/ is a great source to learn about building, setup and flying of your new Raptors. Every new Raptor pilot can save himself a lot of time and effort by using the information available there.
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Thanks guys.....already been there and you guys are right. Great place to be to learn set up. Matter of fact....I brought my heli into work with me so I can set up the radio.
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