kit or ARF
 

Which is better a kit or ARF helicopter? Also what is a good learing copter and what size is better .30 or .60? any info will be helpful.

kit or ARF
 

With Helis... The difference between ARF and kit is how many bolts were put in at the factory. (and cost due to the labor done at the factory...)

Heli kits can be purchased as "full kit" (practically nothing assembled) Modular assemblies completed (just a few of those...) 90%+ assembled without radio or engine, essentially assembled with engine or complete (Nearly)RTF with engine, gyro and radio. The package deals including the engine radio and gyro are usually decent beginner's setups.

.30 size helis are the most recommended for beginners due to initial costs and costs of repair kits. (Might as well buy a "crash kit" when you buy the heli... you will eventually need it.)

SOME good beginners helis are the TT Raptor, Kyosho Nexus and Century Hawk.

The Raptor and Nexus have belt driven tail rotors, which are more precise for 3D maneuvers than the torque rod driven tail rotor of the Hawk. (The Hawk can be upgraded with a "torque tube" which is nearly as precise as the belt drive...)

The Hawk uses a "Bell Mix" for main rotor pitch control, which makes the heli more precise in cyclic control response. Much better for 3D, and if you program some exponential in the cyclic controls, it is very easy to learn with.

BTW... The Hawk has been on the market with essentially no changes for many years, and has had its price reduced recently. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] It has a good reputation for reliablility (few adjustments needed unless you crash it.)