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paulaballa 01-26-2008 02:13 AM

how to do a pyro flip?
 
I keep trying to learn but I dont know exactly what do,I I try to spin while trying to get it to flip but most of the time it wont flip

kenhiraihnl 01-26-2008 02:53 AM

RE: how to do a pyro flip?
 


ORIGINAL: paulaballa

I keep trying to learn but I dont know exactly what do,I I try to spin while trying to get it to flip but most of the time it wont flip
i don't even fly inverted yet (not intentionally, anyway)...just mild aerobatics...however, i copied the following from a post about what to learn after nailing mild aerobatics...here it is...let me know if it works...ken

"Pyro Flip

Really easy if you think about it. Start from inverted tail to you. Pull back and when the bird is straight up and down give it a 180 with the tail, then push forward to finish the move. You dont have to give the stick a swirl when your trying it for the first times, just start with back elevator and then goto forward elevator.

The collective timming is the same as a normal flip. You just have to have your 180 down to stop it where you want it. A little easyer to be a touch slow with the rudder at first to make sure you can stop it where you want.

Then when you get the hang of it, start to swirl the cyclic to smooth it out and lose less alltitude. Left rudder, clockwise swirl."

paulaballa 01-26-2008 08:06 AM

RE: how to do a pyro flip?
 


ORIGINAL: kenhiraihnl



ORIGINAL: paulaballa

I keep trying to learn but I dont know exactly what do,I I try to spin while trying to get it to flip but most of the time it wont flip
i don't even fly inverted yet (not intentionally, anyway)...just mild aerobatics...however, i copied the following from a post about what to learn after nailing mild aerobatics...here it is...let me know if it works...ken

"Pyro Flip

Really easy if you think about it. Start from inverted tail to you. Pull back and when the bird is straight up and down give it a 180 with the tail, then push forward to finish the move. You dont have to give the stick a swirl when your trying it for the first times, just start with back elevator and then goto forward elevator.

The collective timming is the same as a normal flip. You just have to have your 180 down to stop it where you want it. A little easyer to be a touch slow with the rudder at first to make sure you can stop it where you want.

Then when you get the hang of it, start to swirl the cyclic to smooth it out and lose less alltitude. Left rudder, clockwise swirl."



nope that dosnt work it needs to be spinning the whole time, this is what im looking to do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sqLt-3o_FI&NR=1

UH60Mech 01-26-2008 09:42 AM

RE: how to do a pyro flip?
 
practice practice prectice... fix crashed bird... practice practice practice....

:D

BarracudaHockey 01-26-2008 02:28 PM

RE: how to do a pyro flip?
 
I wouldnt try this to you are comforable maintaining a stationary piro upright and inverted and you can flip and roll in place nose in or nose out.


Give right rudder and establish a piro. Setting a dual rate to 80 percent on the rudder allows you to just hold the stick over while you're learning to achieve a constant piro rate.

Then when the tail comes around push the stick over for a right roll and bring it in a clockwise circle. As the helicopter flips over move the collective to negative to maintain altitude.

Keys. Collective management. If you use too much the helicopter will bounce up and down and if the timing is off it will move side to side around the sky. Not enough and you will constantly loose altitude.

Timing the cylic inputs to the rudder so that the helicopter flips at the same point in every rotation.

http://www.littlerotors.com has an article on it and the Alan Szabo Ultimate 3D DVD goes into some good detail.

A cyclic ring helps to keep the cyclic stick out of the corners.


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