getting started in helis
 

Hi i need to know if a kenetic heli, or raptor would be the right choice for a first heli. Im considering a .50 size and also would the kenetic be able to accept scale fuselodges? As i only a scale flyer not much of a 3d person affraid of crashing.
I would love to have an appache style fuselodge for it if they are available thanks!

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What part of crashing are you afraid of??? Amything that leaves the ground is a potential crash ... including scale helis.

Right choice? Define right choice ...

I can only speak for the Raptor (30 in my case).
Was it the right choice for me? I have no clue.
Was it a GOOD choice ... definitely.

Since you are aiming at a scale fuselage, the 50 would give you extra power for the extra weight and with longer blades and boom, it would be a slight bit more stable.

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A Raptor 50 is a good choice, most people In our club started with a 30 and upgraded them to 50's, so if you went with a 50 it saves upgrading later.Plenty of scale body choices available.

The Trex 600 would be another good choice and there is a lot of scale bodies appearing on the market for it.

Then there is the century kits that are available for the Hawk 50

As for apache scale bodies I don't think are any in the 50 class, only in the 60 to 90 class. http://www.starwoodmodels.com/produc...16overview.php

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http://www.centuryheli.com/products/...?currentid=318

What does anyone think of this model? would it be good? its .50 size.
It's actually a modified augusta a109.

I have been flying the dominion 3d on real flight g3 and i am proficient enough to actually fly a real one. also I'm considering later to add multi blades on this airwolf and I found a website that manufactures mutli blades for .50 size nitros and gas powered models.
http://www.starwoodmodels.com/produc...ultiblades.php here is the link to mutli blades

oops my bad its for .60-.90

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The Raptor 50 fits well in the airwolf fuse as I own this model and installing the Trex 600 instead as it has a much lighter chassis than the Raptor and I personally feel flys better.

I can see no reference to the modified Augusta.

Can't help with the multiblades as I am not a great fan of them unless you are going for perfect scale models and I gather they are hard work to set up

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I'm a bit along your lines here. I don't 3d my planes as they are nice and fairly expensive and hangine from the propflying recklessly doesn't impress me at all. However taking my GS P51 right down the middle of the runway while we have one hanging around is interesting.

I'm new to the helis with electrics about 4 months ago. They'okay but I like to have scale fuselages around them, so I bought a couple. Onnce i get good at it, I'm going to bag the electrics and step up intot\ the nitro and again with a scale fuselage.

So with that being said. i think much of this is showing off what you have. So if I'm going to cover it all with a nice fuselage, Do you really need to get the best when your going to remove half of it anyways? I plan on finding somone local wanting to sell cheap and go from their.

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Scale flying is substantially less demanding on ANY mechanics then is 3D flying. Scale flying is also easier with any heli set for a smoother (slower cyclic and collective response) set-up then 3D.

The CN1080 50 size Airwolf comes with the Century SCALE 50 mechanics that are ideally suited for that type of flying. The scale fuselage part of it comes with all the bulkheads etc. already secured in the proper place fore easy instalment of the Century Scale 50 mechanics - a very simple installation. And it flies very well.

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this place has one of the best apaches i've ever seen but you have to build and paint your self. not sure what size it is for.

http://www.indyhelis.com/

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The Kinetik is a nice helo and a real good deal for the money.

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I think im going for the airwolf. me and my dad used to watch that show way back in the eighties and I can recreate the experience agian and he will think that is just too cool. but someday might put in a turbine powered unit and thatll blow off all socks and hats!!!

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If this is your first heli, I strongly suggest that you first fly the mechanics in a pod and boom configuration first and learn to fly on that, then when you are confident in your flying ability, install the mechancs in the fuselage and have fun.

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ok thats a good idea i was thinking of the same.

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I recently finished my first Raptor, and have loved it so far. Me personally, I avoid anything with the name Heli-max because most of their products I have purchased in the past have been junk. It looks like a good value but you will definitely find more info for raptors online, a good thing for beginners.

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We had a Kenetic show up at our field that needed some work, apparently it was quite a chore to get the engine out and fix the prop nut that spun off. I imagine I'll get a good look at it next weekend but he didn't come back out Sunday while I was there.

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so does anyone thnk the centerury airwolf .50 will be a good quality kit? no problems that I would be worried about?

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also forgot to mention I have a 6exa transmitter for aircraft. Now aircraft stands for both helis and planes right? but some here on rcuniverse says that it wouldn't be such a good idea to use it for helis. why not? I hate to have to buy another transmitter. my 6exa was one of the first when they came out. can anyone give me inputs about this?

Futuba should just make it both for helis and planes cause it will wast ppl's money if they decide to go with helis too.

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No, unfortunately you do need a Transmitter with Helimix facility, if you eventually go with the Airwolf fuse you will need a minimum of 7 channels to have the extra ability of operating the retractable wheels.

I just checked out your Tx online and it appears to be aircraft only, the 6exh is the 6 channel heli version, if you are going to change go with the new 2.4ghz spektrum systems.

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thanks for the tips

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The AIRWOLF fuse is a Bell 222 not an Augusta, if you look at Bell's web site it looks like they no longer sell the 222 but they are still in use. This is a pic I found showing the 222 painted to look like the AirWolf fuse.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1159635

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so I geuss thats what they used for the show huh? cool

well I'm seriously going to consider getting the dx7 transimitter to use it for airplane and helis. thanks for the suggestions. now I can sell my older system the 6exa its a great first radio very reliable.

just for imagination, is it possible to slap in a turbine for the .50 size mechanics and stil be able to use the airwolf fuse? or for the turbine is that an entirely different brand make and size?

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No its not near big enough an airframe and a turbine engine alone costs around 3 grand.

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by the way I'll let ya'll know when I will get the model.

It wil be in a few months as I need to pay for my car insurance. planning to sell my truck as well. and just want to get a 4 door sedan. I'm thinking of buying my folks honda oddessey for transporting planes only.

If you live in the houston area hit me up.

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i knew it cost around that much just wondering cause ive seen some new small turbines on the market now.

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Have you considered installing a Trex 600 electric into an Airwolf fuse, the rex electric has a sort of turbine sound with a good rotor sound it is a more affordable option than a turbine and I'm sure it will still fire your imagination;)

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no thanks i dont want to deal with elecltrics as i have the glow field support. thanks anyways