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Old 12-28-2019, 11:59 AM
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Cool.
Yes CARF supply a suitable Hi-Flow Felt clunk with all their tanks.
cool....thank you
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I am rounding up gear for an Evo. I have a handful of JR 8411 servos. Will these be adequate for elevators and ailerons? What about rudder?
Old 12-28-2019, 01:26 PM
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Yes, it’s the go to servo. Every Flash and UF I have built is fully kitted out with 8411’s. Run a Powerbox Sensor switch and you are set.

Use JR super servo arms on everything except rudder where I would run a 25mm Dubro HD arm.
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Awesome. Thanks for the quick reply!
Old 12-28-2019, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere
Yes, it’s the go to servo. Every Flash and UF I have built is fully kitted out with 8411’s. Run a Powerbox Sensor switch and you are set.

Use JR super servo arms on everything except rudder where I would run a 25mm Dubro HD arm.
I see they now have 8411hv servos. Might have to look into them. I do know that they got super sloppy super quick on gassers. That's one nice thing about jets- no vibration.

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I don’t think it’s the same servo, it’s a Chinese servo given the designation 8411. The 8411HV they did looked the same as the Std voltage servo with a red and gold label on an all plastic 19mm wide case.
Old 12-29-2019, 09:54 AM
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Little Stevie test flew his UF re engined with a P-130Rx JetCat. Lighter and more power than the old 120 he had, he said it felt great. For me the perfect UF power plant.




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So hey all, I’m thinking about redoing my UF equipment install after looking at all you guys’ fine work and painting the inside of the fuselage. The burning questions are:

1. What paint are you guys using?

2. Is it really just that simple, just tape off the work area and point and shoot? Like how much prep work or none? Spray with primer first? I really want to do this but need a ton of hand holding before I do this and royally screw it up! I’ll be sure to post before and after photos.

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If it’s a flown model you will need to wash out the surface to get rid of the oil residual that will be all over the inside, I would use a stiff brush and washing up liquid in a warm water solution.
Use a BVM type scuff board to flat any lumps and bumps, the ply nose wood needs coating with ZAP40 finishing resin 2 coats thinned 50% with alcohol sand between and after.
Shoot a light coat of grey primer-mainly to get into the corners and hard to reach areas a textured paint won’t settle in. You need to build up light costs as it takes a few seconds for the ‘grit’ to settle through the lacquer.
This is Rustoleum Aged Iron spray.


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Wow Dave, again your the man!!! Quick response! Your expertise and build experience are invaluable to the Flash community. Keep up the good work. So now I'm thinking, great, that sounds like a lot of heavy lifting for me just being bored and wanting to do something in the garage. My next Flash build I will start out with painting the inside, I've got one in the box it came in, and never opened it cause it was free shipping last year. My wife says, "why not practice on that one!" Hmmmm, good idea?
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Was making my wife breakfast when I opened RCU and saw your request, just happened to have that photo on the iPad and it’s a process I’ve developed over many years. My Instruction manual original Classic Flash wasn’t painted and every time I look inside I think what a mess!
Its worth the effort, but mask everything as the paint particles will carry!
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Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere
I don’t think it’s the same servo, it’s a Chinese servo given the designation 8411. The 8411HV they did looked the same as the Std voltage servo with a red and gold label on an all plastic 19mm wide case.
I see now that they offer 3 different versions of the same servo, all are now HV capable. They have the 'old standard', a lighter weight 'F3A" version, and a higher torque(368 oz/26.5kg) competition version.
I'm thinking standard 8411s on ailerons, elevators, and the higher torque comp versions on flaps and rudder:
https://www.deeforce.net/product-pag...le-competition
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They are showing a version of the plastic cased servo. I would use that everywhere, it’s what my Classic and UF have on all surfaces and you can see the flaps hold the position just fine from the pictures
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What are your guys thoughts on the need for a gyro in the UF Evo? I am fairly new to jets and see that almost everyone seems to use them. My T-One did not have one and flew just fine.....but I never flew it in very windy conditions. Thanks
Old 12-31-2019, 11:30 AM
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Does not need one, all the ones you see flying in the UK are Gyro free, but like every model it makes it even soother. I’d say the UF would be better than your T-one in wind.
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Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere
Does not need one, all the ones you see flying in the UK are Gyro free, but like every model it makes it even soother. I’d say the UF would be better than your T-one in wind.
Dave, you are right on top of it!! Thank you again for all of your help and Happy New Year to you and your family
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My Evo is missing several of the ball links for flight controls. Anyone know how to get them, can’t find them on Comparf site.
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Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere
They are showing a version of the plastic cased servo. I would use that everywhere, it’s what my Classic and UF have on all surfaces and you can see the flaps hold the position just fine from the pictures
you're saving me some money! JR brand super servo arms seem hard to find in the states. I assume Dubro HD arms will work?
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Originally Posted by JoelP
My Evo is missing several of the ball links for flight controls. Anyone know how to get them, can’t find them on Comparf site.
contact CARF or your vendor, they will help you get them
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
you're saving me some money! JR brand super servo arms seem hard to find in the states. I assume Dubro HD arms will work?
Dee Force supplied the last lot we had. But Dubro will work.
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Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere
contact CARF or your vendor, they will help you get them
Andy Kane is gone...God bless him. Request contact info then.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by JoelP
Andy Kane is gone...God bless him. Request contact info then.
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I just read that, very sad indeed.


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