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Old 08-29-2011, 02:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: rpat
...............now I have to modify the servo opening tol use these servos.
i had to modify my holes to accommodate the servos i got from Henry that were supposed to fit this jet..........the width was ok, but the length was about 1/2" short , had to reinforce the inside to allow the screws to bite and hold.

so what did he say was the reason for NOT using his servos? are they junk and those of us who bought them are just stuck with them?
Old 08-29-2011, 02:45 PM
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Well in all honesty he wants me to send them to him, but I don't see why I would want to send them to him if he does not have any to replace them. I did not open them up at first because I didn't want him to say that I tinkered with them. I am curious as to what caused the one to smoke....never seen a servo smoke.
Old 08-29-2011, 02:48 PM
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i've never plugged any of mine into a receiver so now you got me wondering.............
Old 08-29-2011, 02:53 PM
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Yea I know what you mean. Just wonder if the rest of them will cut the musatard.
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IIRC earlier in this tread Henry stated they used these servos in both their test tornado as well as their UAV's................hopefully the story hasn't changed.
Old 08-29-2011, 03:04 PM
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being the included extension kit that came with the servos was less then i liked.................and i have all custom extensions in the jet currently that haven't had the male ends installed (waiting on mounting of the receiver) i did have access to the steering servo (MBA 8000) and the gear servo (MBA 4000), i plugged both into the receiver and powered them with the A123 batt included with them and they work just fine, no smoke.
Old 08-29-2011, 04:29 PM
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The smaller ones(3500"s) is what messed up on mine.
Old 08-29-2011, 04:37 PM
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cant test those currently.
Old 08-29-2011, 05:12 PM
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Default RE: The new Tornado sport jet

KC - Are you going to make Pensacola Jets in November? If so, are you bringing the Tornado?

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why ?
Old 08-29-2011, 06:11 PM
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Show us your Canopy MODS!!
Old 08-29-2011, 07:20 PM
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Go to post 975. That post shows a good way to do it.
Old 08-29-2011, 07:32 PM
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Default RE: The new Tornado sport jet

I have over 8 hours on my P60se Tornado combo all stock servos and stock hardware that came with the kit, and know of 3 more in my area with the same setup none with a problem ever. Only thing i would say is to check extensions that was bought from Henry I had one with the polarity reversed, besides that not a min problem with the MBA servos and stock hardware from the Tornado.
Old 08-29-2011, 08:16 PM
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KC - Are you going to make Pensacola Jets in November? If so, are you bringing the Tornado?

Sluggo

Randy,

i'm gonna do my best to make it and hope to have the tornado well tuned in by then. after the comments about the servos i went ahead terminated all extensions and tested them, had one little glitch with a wing servo but swapped it for the steering and problem fixed. turbine is now mounted and just need to finish the equipment and install servo linkages/horns.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:34 PM
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How many and what are the required lengths of the servo extensions?.
Old 08-29-2011, 09:33 PM
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Jaime I'm glad everything went well. As for the gear that is a problem that we discovered after wards and has been fixed. Anybody who bought older gear we warranty it 100% all you have to do is call bill at spring air and send him the older gear and he will make the fix or replace the gear so it never fails.
Awesome Henry! I'll do it right away as I have a meet in Princeton, BC I want to make in three weeks. If all goes well and I'm up there I'll definitely pass on the word of the awesome customer service! :-)

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Sounds good KC! I'm looking forward to meeting you and getting a first-hand look at your Tornado.

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Randy,

i'm gonna do my best to make it and hope to have the tornado well tuned in by then.
Old 08-30-2011, 03:32 AM
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Here is how I mounted the canopy... It's a perfect fit to say the least and I am very satisfied with how it turned.

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A 1/4" dowel glued to the front of the canopy protruding about 2"

Picture 2:
A 2"x2" block consists of 4 1/4" 2"x2" pieces one ply and the rest are high density balsa glued to the fuse top in front of the dowel with hysol

picture 3:
A 1"x2" balsa 1/4" block glued to the top of the fuse on the back side. I made a channel on this block and glued a brass tube that is 1/8" inner diameter and ran a 1/8" music wire to act like a latch

Picture 4:
1/4" ply block shaped to sit on the back of the canopy and glued (generously) with hysol

Picture 5:
The canopy installed and the fit is amazing with zero play.

Picture 6:
The best tool I fount to screw the wings and booms. Screwing the wings takes literally less than a minute now.

General tips: make sure that you very well sand the white canopy plastic before gluing anything to it (I know you all are aware of the importance of this but we tend to forget, or at least I do (did) ). Red thread lock on the tip of the dowel and the music wire will leave a a good mark on the wood that tells you where to exactly drill. Drilling on the canopy for the music wire will be, most likely, on the hysol so make sure you make the hole before the hysol is fully cured.

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Old 08-30-2011, 03:37 AM
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Default RE: The new Tornado sport jet

One more picture to show the latch it protrudes a little less than 2" past the fuse edge.

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Old 08-30-2011, 06:04 AM
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How many and what are the required lengths of the servo extensions?.
it all depends on your desired setup and RX channels available. i've using a 12 ch receiver and i've ran individual extensions from each servo to the receiver. i see no reason to do otherwise unless you modify to allow for easy wing/boom removal.

i've got roughly 4 at 36" and 4 at 24"
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Trying to save weight and excessive clutter with the gear/brakes..........i couldn't find a trigger valve in my junk box to use on the back side of the gear servo horn for brake so i did a little thinking..........took a Tam gear valve and one side works gear, one side brakes, in the center of travel (gear down, brakes off) the O-rings prevent air loss. with gear up selected it applies air to the gear and they retract, air is removed from the brake system........you don't need brakes when the gear is up anyways........with gear down selected the valve moves to center position, removing air from the gear and they spring down........when brakes are selected it applies air to the brakes.....i added a restrictor on the brakes and you do need to lube them but it works and is light weight and a single micro servo. this also allows for parking brakes with the radio off where the UP6 pushes the servo and releases brakes when power is off. i have the brake switch deactivated when gear is UP so there is no way the valve can get out of sync.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:49 AM
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Hi Henry.
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ORIGINAL: Dblex

Show us your Canopy MODS!!
Here's how I did mine. I tried to use the KISS principle. First I glued the pilot and tub with goop, then measured, and re measured to make sure of where I wanted everything to go. Hysol'd a piece of ply to the front. Cut a slot in the rear, hysol'd a BVM canopy latch. And voila! .... Super easy, strong, and bullet proof;-)

BTW... sorry about the glue job. It's not pretty but does the job and you don't see it anyway.

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Old 08-30-2011, 08:58 AM
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Pt. 2... the BVM canopy clip and the front ply fit perfect under the opening of the fuse without cutting holes or modifying anything:
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:13 PM
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Default RE: The new Tornado sport jet

here is a picture of the new cockpit.
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