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Old 07-31-2011, 12:06 AM
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Default New large scale Airliner kits

Hello there,
just to let you know - we are working on new airliner kits that will be available soon
These are scaled at 1/16 with wingspans between 2.06 and 3,35 metres, the lengths are between 2.92 and 4.15 metres.
Moulds for the following types are completed:

Boeing 727
Boeing 737
Airbus A 300- 600
Airbus A 310- 300
Airbus A 330- 200
Airbus A 330- 300
Airbus A 340- 300
Airbus A 340- 500
Airbus A 340- 600
All kits come with three parted epoxy glass fibre fuselages,rudder and nacelles. The 737 is available either in the "old" version with slim nacelles , or with the modern, large diametre ( new turbofan) version.
Wings and elevators are foam/obechi sandwich in the known Grumania quality standards.

First two kits that will be released are the Boeing types 727 and 737 after JetPower 2011 and we will prepare the Airbuses for the 2012 season.
Of special interest is the 727 which can be flown on only one engine(!) in the centre pod.In this case a standard 80 N turbine is more than adequate.This is of interest for those who don`t want the hassle of a multi engined plane, or those who`s flying practice is not good enough to go for a jet fighter. With its size, it is the ideal show stopper at every event.
Other engine options for the 727 are two (or three) Wren MW 44`s or even three Kolibri`s.

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Old 07-31-2011, 12:28 AM
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Default RE: New large scale Airliner kits

I would be interested in both the 727 and the 737....
Old 07-31-2011, 12:41 AM
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I'd be interested in B737-200 and A300-600 models, do u have pictures of ur molds to show us or any parts made from the mold to see the level of accuracy n detail of these models....
Old 07-31-2011, 03:12 AM
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Are there going to be any A320 family models? Also make sure you get the cockpit windows correct and looking scale, as this is one area which is usually incorrect in airliner models.

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Old 07-31-2011, 03:30 AM
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Have you got some approximate idea of the costs of the kits? I'd be interested in knowing what the 737 and A330 would be?

Thanks

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Old 07-31-2011, 04:15 AM
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Default RE: New large scale Airliner kits

Hello again,
as said before, we start with the Beings first, before concentrating on the Airbus family. So here are some photos of the 727 and 737. As the full size planes are based on the same fuselage ( in fact 707 designs), the 727 and 737 kits both use the same centre and nose sections. Engine nacelles for the 727 are both shown and the late style type is large enough to carry 120 mm ducted fan units for the "electric guys".
Pricing is not fixed yet and depends on the manufacturing hours.
Production kits will of course be made in white or grey primer.


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Old 07-31-2011, 04:43 AM
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Default RE: New large scale Airliner kits

How about a DC-10 as well. I've got a itch to build a KC-10 from one...
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You need a A-320!
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Default RE: New large scale Airliner kits

The pictures look good....wings?
Old 07-31-2011, 12:34 PM
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Default RE: New large scale Airliner kits

Very good idea!

are they based on the Rauch's Airliners?

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Old 07-31-2011, 01:56 PM
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Default RE: New large scale Airliner kits

Good to see this announcement! This is the same scale as the Norbert Rauch 1/16 scale airliners (essentially scratch builds) that one can buy glass parts for. I suspect you'll get people who have been sitting on the side lines that will go for a kit before they'd go for a scratch build/glass nose and tail project.

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So here are some photos of the 727 and 737. As the full size planes are based on the same fuselage ( in fact 707 designs), the 727 and 737 kits both use the same centre and nose sections.

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As far as the B707 and B-727/737, just a point of engineering... The fuselage cross sections are the same, however, the lower lobe portion of the fuselage where the baggage and aux fuel tanks go in the real aircraft are different for the 707, 727 and 737. The 707 has a slightly larger lower fuselage area (the fuselage is slightly taller), and the 727 is slightly smaller on the lower lobe portion, and the 737 is slightly smaller yet. The upper passenger compartment is the same on all three. This isn't all that much of a difference but it is worth noting if these types are going to be judged critically, especially since the difference does effect the way the nose section looks from the side if you look at a 707 parked nose to nose with a 737. The difference is noticeable. Years ago I operated the 727 and the 737 later, and noticed it myself looking at the two aircraft parked next to each other. When looking at the actual engineering dimensions, I did notice the differences in fact and it wasn't just an optical illusion.

Looking forward to seeing more, and glad to see you guys have taken this set of projects on. I have just started a Norbert Rauch DC-8-61 (1/16) project myself. These 1/16 scale airplanes are really big models when you get into the larger airframe sizes - mine will be 12 feet long (!!). Can you say multiple section fuselage for transportation or what?
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Center fuselage and tail sections are fine and looks like B727 and B737-800 but nose and cockpit section is way off as usual the case is with airliners models. I used to Kranz B727 some years ago and it's nose and cockpit was totally off and that was one of few reasons why i let it go in favor another large model. Did you used factory drawings or someones 3 views to make plugs for these models?. Norbert's nose are very very close to scale with correct angles and curves. Would these be full kits or similar to what Norbert offers as short kits, basically faiberglass sections and foam core wings and rest is up to modeler to build from there...
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A320!!!!
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Eddie, i have worked on B727, 737s back when i was at airport and never saw this lower lobe differences. It's good you mentioned as i also used to think up till now that since cross section is the same as off 707 on 27 and 37, rest of the fuselages would be bolt on one to another, good to know the slight difference in them.
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What's this...no MD-80?????

Oh the horror...the horror!

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What's this...no MD-80?????

Oh the horror...the horror!
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The Mad Dog will live on in the minds of legendary men who were tasked to mind the Mad Dog's tiller in rough seas. We don't need no stinkin' model airplane to remember the mighty Mad Dog. Any true aviator's soul worthy of Mad Dog time in their log book will know this fact. As they say, Boeing builds airplanes - Douglas builds CHARACTER. [:@]
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Not a finer flying jet was ever built. The mighty Swept Winged Douglas Racer Jet...Cables and pulleys...dial a flap...perf climb...-15 motors...an APU that could not generate enough air to blow out a birthday cake candle...ahhh yes...the Long Beach Sewer Tube.

If you could pave a runway that went completely around the world...I assure you that there is a flap/power setting for an MD-80 that will require you to use every inch of it...

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ORIGINAL: bevar

Not a finer flying jet was ever built. The mighty Swept Winged Douglas Racer Jet...Cables and pulleys...dial a flap...perf climb...-15 motors...an APU that could not generate enough air to blow out a birthday cake candle...ahhh yes...the Long Beach Sewer Tube.

If you could pave a runway that went completely around the world...I assure you that there is a flap/power setting for an MD-80 that will require you to use every inch of it...

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I agree, nice model but the nose section needs work.

Any reason why most airline models are always off? No surface models available?
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The 727, my all time favorite airliner.Though I wouldn't consider it unless the nose was fixed []
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Oooh these are nice!!
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Hello again,
first, the planes are not based on the Rauch models, these are differend moulds.
727 and 737 will be complete kits. There will be NO scratch build by the modeller.
As said earlier , time doesn`t allow to get out all kits at a time, we start with the Boeings first.Airbuses will be available later or only as partial kits consisting of glass fibre parts &wings / wing plans for the scratch builder.
Sorry, no MD 80, other airbuses than stated or KC10`s - I still have a full time job with all the other models to do !
We will make the wings ready to cover with servo boxes and cut out ailerons ,flaps,ect as known from our other kits.

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Some pictures of the engine nacelles

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Will you be making n providing internal "S Duct" for 27's engine# 2?

Looks like ur fuslages are interchangeable bet 37 n 27, except for tail section, center n nose/forward fuse is same on B738 as on 27.....
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There will be a ducting for the single engine version. As we are a supplier for jet pipes, we do of course a proper jet pipe, double walled.

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