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Old 11-26-2020, 10:03 AM
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Thank you my friend. That's a great help. Kit is here and I am building it now. Any pictures for equipment plates? Have you installed smoke? I am thinking to not to and build it lighter.
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Hi, here are some pictures. No smoke on this jet. Out of 6 jets, I have smoke installed in one which I rarely use.... just not a fan of smoke. I have 3 Powerbox batteries ( two for RX, one for retracts and brakes). Will be installing cockpit from Scale-cockpits once it shows up. I have Intairco stand for storage and transport, very convenient.

https://www.scale-cockpits.at/eshop/...er-mk2-skygate

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Hi

I have the same scheme. With those two batteries in the front, its definitely going to be nose heavy. My turbine batteries are located in the back of the fuel tank, and receiver batteries on the sides just in fron of the fuel tank.

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Old 11-26-2020, 10:08 PM
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The tail servos used make a big difference in the balance requirement, since the manual balance is so nose heavy, with JR servos in the tail we have Vipers with all three batteries on the fuel tank (with some cockpit) with metal case servos like Savox the batteries are in the cockpit in front of the tank.
Because the Viper flies OK with the forward balance many people leave it nose heavy...but it’s so much nicer with my rear balance!
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Hello fellow pilots. I have a Cayman painted Viper that I'm starting to assembly.
I'm going with the JetsMunt M166TS turbine for power and using the Electron ER40eVo gear and a GS 200 control as I have replaced the original controller.
Going with some new JR 8911 servos on the aileron elevator and rudder should have enough control. Flaps I'm using some Savox 1230 also for steering.
Radio is Jeti DS16 with a CB 210 central box using the thrid-receiver as the power switch and staying with all of the CARF hardware as it's quality is good.
I'm going to run some Navi lights on the wings with a strobe and a beacon for those overcast days flying.

Are there any issues/ problems I should be aware of this build I would greatly appreciate your point of view?

Russ

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Old 12-10-2020, 11:00 AM
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Hello Skunkwrks - I think our screen names may create confusion....
Old 12-10-2020, 11:15 AM
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Well Hello skunkwurk- It may, as mine is Skunkwrks named after Lougheed's the special project.
I will help in regards to redirecting fellow FCU members to the USA skunkwurk and the Canadian Skunkwrks member....
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Hope the Avitar photo helps ..
Old 12-10-2020, 12:20 PM
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Ignore the manual balance point, it needs to be way behind where the designer put it. I think I put my figures in an earlier post. You may struggle to get the 8911 in the tailplane, it will need some work as it was designed for a 19mm 8411. The electron gear will require packers in the mains.
Otherwise it’s an easy build.
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Old 12-10-2020, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Skunkwrks View Post
Hello fellow pilots. I have a Cayman painted Viper that I'm starting to assembly.
I'm going with the JetsMunt M166TS turbine for power and using the Electron ER40eVo gear and a GS 200 control as I have replaced the original controller.
Going with some new JR 8911 servos on the aileron elevator and rudder should have enough control. Flaps I'm using some Savox 1230 also for steering.
Radio is Jeti DS16 with a CB 210 central box using the thrid-receiver as the power switch and staying with all of the CARF hardware as it's quality is good.
I'm going to run some Navi lights on the wings with a strobe and a beacon for those overcast days flying.

Are there any issues/ problems I should be aware of this build I would greatly appreciate your point of view?

Russ
Glad you found this thread Russ. I was just going to message you to check it out.

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Old 12-10-2020, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere View Post
Ignore the manual balance point, it needs to be way behind where the designer put it. I think I put my figures in an earlier post. You may struggle to get the 8911 in the tailplane, it will need some work as it was designed for a 19mm 8411. The electron gear will require packers in the mains.
Otherwise it’s an easy build.
I could be wrong but I also seem to remember that the nose opening is a little small for the electrons nose gear. But I agree, is a good build and a great flyer.
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Yes, also for the original Air leg. Unless a manufacturer only offers the design with one choice undercarriage its best to have it undersized...without making opening the hole an impossible job!
Once we are confident all the original Air gear has gone into retirement we can redesign the gear mounts for Electron.
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Old 12-11-2020, 09:57 AM
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Good to hear about the front gear tolerance, I haven't tried fitting the front gear. The whole airframe was designed around the german air retracts it seems, until CARF does a refresh with the Viper these issues will be addressed by guys like me preferring to Electron gear over the factory air set..

Thanks Agrav8ed and Dave for the help, looking for to flying this bird in May..
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Glad you found this thread Russ. I was just going to message you to check it out.
Thanks, Jonathan it's the only forum offering good information about this Jet venture I'm going into of course with a lot of guidance from you,Yoda

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Skunkwrks -

I tackled the same issues when I built my son's Viper in 2013. We chose to try Behotec electric retracts & brakes - they are an easy fit (no modification required) and after 111 flights I can say they work at least as well at electron. The cool thing about them is they use stepper motors which permits the user to define up and down endpoints rather than relying on changes in current draw to stop.

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Old 12-12-2020, 09:16 AM
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Skunkwrks -

I tackled the same issues when I built my son's Viper in 2013. We chose to try Behotec electric retracts & brakes - they are an easy fit (no modification required) and after 111 flights I can say they work at least as well at electron. The cool thing about them is they use stepper motors which permits the user to define up and down endpoints rather than relying on changes in current draw to stop.

Phil
Checked the gear in the bracket and had to narrow the support bracket with some plywood and hysol fastening to the bracket. The wheel looks like it will touch the fuse with the gear swing. Might have to get a 65mm wheel as the re40 gear have a 75mm wheel. The Behotec are good gear and having adjustable limits are great.

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The door is supplied long enough to open the hole to suit, we take out the steering servo mount rail..
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The door is supplied long enough to open the hole to suit, we take out the steering servo mount rail.
Thank goodness the door is long to cover the notches in the fuselage. I'm leaving the servo bracket on 4MM blind nuts are mounts with some Goop to ensure they don't move.
The gear swing now is unobstructed and operates smoothly, had to shorten the steering arm so it would clear the fuse side

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