Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > RC Jets
Reload this Page >

Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Notices
RC Jets Discuss RC jets in this forum plus rc turbines and ducted fan power systems

Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Old 07-04-2012, 12:55 PM
  #101  
andykane
My Feedback: (58)
 
andykane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: SILVER SPRING, MD
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Please contact me if you need a copy of the New SkyGate CARF Viper instructions

Andy Kane
[email protected]
Attached Files
File Type: pdf
Ig12701.pdf (5.38 MB, 206 views)
Old 07-04-2012, 06:46 PM
  #102  
pfact
My Feedback: (92)
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 285
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Ricardo - I picked up the no grommet thing from building BVM jets. I use washers and screws as you can see in the photos. BVM says that eliminating the rubber grommets produces a more solid connection between the servo and flight surface and reduces the risk of flutter. These servos are functioning in a nearly vibration free environment thus there should be no need for the damping effect of rubber grommets. I have been doing this for awhile without any consequence that I am aware of.

I'll be this sparks an ongoing conversation!

Phil
Old 07-04-2012, 07:18 PM
  #103  
1ricardo
Member
My Feedback: (25)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Hi Phill,

Thanks for the clarification, ok I'll try it on mine as well.
Also are you comfortable with 8411 servos on the stabs?!
What do you think about instal the stab servo just like the bandit ARF? Where the servo is assembled with the horn facing the stab tip and a cut out on the fuse side?
In this assembly we can install a 8711 class servo.
Old 07-04-2012, 07:49 PM
  #104  
Asif
My Feedback: (30)
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Edmonton, AB, CANADA
Posts: 306
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet


ORIGINAL: andykane

Please contact me if you need a copy of the New SkyGate CARF Viper instructions

Andy Kane
[email protected]
Andy,
Thanks for the manual.
Asif
Old 07-05-2012, 03:18 AM
  #105  
pfact
My Feedback: (92)
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 285
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Ricardo

I am hoping that an 8411 will be fine, this is one of those times when it would be nice if one of the many CARF people who are following this thread would chime in. I considered turning the servo around as you suggest and cutting a hole in the fuse but i realized that the servo horm wouldn't line up with the control horns on the elevator.

Phil
Old 07-25-2012, 02:57 AM
  #106  
RCFlyerDan
My Feedback: (54)
 
RCFlyerDan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,948
Received 55 Likes on 39 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Just took delivery of my new Viper in Fantasy. I love Behotec retracts and after having the C36 in the Flash, I would like to use them again, but the heavier version. I have read that the ER50 haven't worked, due to depth. Have any of you used the Behotec C50F low profile gear? I guess the Nose gear would be turned around, but haven't asked Peter yet.

New C50F Retract Low Profile set for models up to 55 lbs
with a new forward retracting Nose unit
with optional servo steering adapter kit



The C50-F was developed for models with very thin wing profile,
e.g. (viper, Airmachi etc.) it is an air up air down system.
The design is extremely robust and is intended for models up to 25 kg (55lbs).
The large piston, with 20 mm inside diameter, allows for the use of large struts.
The retract body is a 1 piece milled to ensure extreme strength and rigidity.
The adapter hole in the trunion can acomodate 8,10,12.70mm adapter pins

The struts lock in both up and own positions and offers a retraction angle of 90°.
The nose gear trunion can also hold the optional servo steering adapter kit
Old 07-25-2012, 04:39 AM
  #107  
andykane
My Feedback: (58)
 
andykane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: SILVER SPRING, MD
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

For those interested CARF Models has the Skygate Viper landing gear in stock.

http://www.carf-models.com/public_ca...3&[email protected]

and they have 1-Viper kit arriving 8-22-12 still not sold.

http://www.carf-models.com/public_ca...ant&proId=2780

contact your sales rep if interested.
Andy Kane
Old 07-25-2012, 09:43 AM
  #108  
1ricardo
Member
My Feedback: (25)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

I Agree with Andy,

I have this airplane with the gear that CARF sold for it and the gear is massive and very well done, there´s no reason to struggle trying to fit other type.

Just my 2 cents
Old 07-25-2012, 04:46 PM
  #109  
1ricardo
Member
My Feedback: (25)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

I know I'm probrably overkiling, But I was not confortable at all with 8411 on the stab, the stab is huge!
So I decided to install 8711 in a BARF fashion, inverted on the stab with a hole on the fuse, turns out that's plenty of space to do this.
Here's some pictures of this install
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Lj21379.jpg
Views:	260
Size:	44.2 KB
ID:	1785972   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sn41830.jpg
Views:	237
Size:	48.7 KB
ID:	1785973   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pu50201.jpg
Views:	245
Size:	69.9 KB
ID:	1785974   Click image for larger version

Name:	Yr48429.jpg
Views:	245
Size:	62.6 KB
ID:	1785975   Click image for larger version

Name:	Lx21625.jpg
Views:	263
Size:	82.1 KB
ID:	1785976   Click image for larger version

Name:	Zq96786.jpg
Views:	284
Size:	80.5 KB
ID:	1785977  
Old 07-25-2012, 05:05 PM
  #110  
Joe C
My Feedback: (23)
 
Joe C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 2,449
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

You can never over kill!!!!
Old 07-26-2012, 09:31 AM
  #111  
pfact
My Feedback: (92)
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 285
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Ricardo

How is the alignment of the push rod with the control horns?

Phil
Old 07-26-2012, 10:07 AM
  #112  
1ricardo
Member
My Feedback: (25)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Hi Phill,

The aligment was perfect, I first made the hole for the horn aligned with the fenolic horn on the stab, the made the 1/4 ply wood servo base, assembly the whole thing, tack glued in place and the hysoled the ply bases with the stabs skins, tube and root.
Now I´m dealing with the rudder, how do you install the brass tube? Mine it´s much bigger, do i cut it on the top? And then how do i secure it on the rudder?
Also the instruction on the manual are very confusing, the ask to epoxy glue the treads of the ball link and a few other procedures that i did no fully understood.
Let me tell you what I did.
1-Unscrew the fenolic disc
2-Install the provided ball link with the M3 allen and put 2 nut on the back ( secure and locking nut)
3- Re-screwed the disc on the rudder.
4-And now I´m trying to install the link on the servo horn but there is a difference in high, the servo is lower then the push rods wiche causes a bad angle
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ge94604.jpg
Views:	248
Size:	78.8 KB
ID:	1786150   Click image for larger version

Name:	Fb87540.jpg
Views:	266
Size:	68.3 KB
ID:	1786151  
Old 07-28-2012, 04:58 AM
  #113  
RCFlyerDan
My Feedback: (54)
 
RCFlyerDan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,948
Received 55 Likes on 39 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Ricardo!

I like how you did the 8711 on the elevators. Question though. Why are you still using the plastic servo arm, instead of aluminum? I have had the plastic splines fail on the gear of the servo, and always use aluminum arms on jets or the larger gas planes. You are using the proper servo, but then your weak spot becomes the plastic arm? Just my humble opinion?
Old 07-29-2012, 12:22 PM
  #114  
1ricardo
Member
My Feedback: (25)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Hi Dan, I guess a chain is only as strong as its weakest link?! LOL ;-)
I´ll change them, i already bought a set of SWB aluminum horns for the whole airplane, they did not arrive yet. But thanks for the concern

Ricardo Baptista
Old 07-29-2012, 12:29 PM
  #115  
RCFlyerDan
My Feedback: (54)
 
RCFlyerDan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SWFL
Posts: 1,948
Received 55 Likes on 39 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Good Deal!! Maybe we can fly them at Cape Coral's Gaithering of the Giants 2013!! Andy always comes too. Please continue to share what you are doing. See ya! Dan
Old 08-03-2012, 02:07 PM
  #116  
Spillmann
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Uznach, SWITZERLAND
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Did somebody install a light system in this Viper? Who does sell transparent covers for position and landing lights?
Old 08-04-2012, 12:13 AM
  #117  
zeev barnes
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: rishon lezion, ISRAEL
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Hi Guys
I just receive my mew CARF VIPER and it looks great
I notice that you all recommend to use JR SERVOS
in my country we usually use hitec servos and in the last year SAVOX servos came big time into our market
I want to use the wright servos for this expensive jet
please advice why did you choose JR
thank you in advance
best
Old 08-04-2012, 03:44 AM
  #118  
pfact
My Feedback: (92)
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 285
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Zeev

I have no good reasons for using JR other than their amazing repair service.

I also use Hitec and have had good luck with them.

Phil
Old 08-10-2012, 01:10 PM
  #119  
1ricardo
Member
My Feedback: (25)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Hi Guys,

Is any one worry about the receiver sitting on top a double layer carbon fiber tray? Isn´t that bad for the reception of the 2.4 ghz signal?

Ricardo
Old 08-10-2012, 01:13 PM
  #120  
1ricardo
Member
My Feedback: (25)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

I mean this tray
Old 08-10-2012, 01:17 PM
  #121  
1ricardo
Member
My Feedback: (25)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

this tray...
Old 08-10-2012, 01:18 PM
  #122  
1ricardo
Member
My Feedback: (25)
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

LOL, ok last try to show the tray i´m talking about
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Rp42516.jpg
Views:	289
Size:	73.6 KB
ID:	1790764  
Old 08-16-2012, 04:58 AM
  #123  
steve2972
Senior Member
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: southamwarwickshire, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

What colour scheme is this?I thought they had changed the carbon tray to ply?
Old 08-16-2012, 06:42 AM
  #124  
Dave Wilshere
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Watford, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 12,754
Received 601 Likes on 434 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

Like This?
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Nl30118.jpg
Views:	245
Size:	94.2 KB
ID:	1792575   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ez81220.jpg
Views:	224
Size:	123.7 KB
ID:	1792576  
Old 08-16-2012, 06:53 AM
  #125  
steve2972
Senior Member
My Feedback: (2)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: southamwarwickshire, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Skygate/CARF Viperjet

man,thats nice Dave! Its my Birthday on the 14th september,the day I fly to Jet Power.Do you think Carf would give me Birthday discount? Better not drink too much of that German beer,I get abit trigger happy after a few

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.