BlueBus320

My Feedback: (57)

Im in the market for a 100 size turbine & trying to figure out if the Rabbit has internal solenoids? If not, is the weight of the turbine calculated with its external solenoids?
Thanks, Jay

david robinson

No it does not have internal solenoids and the weight is turbine only. I would suggest a King Tech K100G it is all internal and for $1850 you can't beat it especially when it's $1000+ less than Jet Central.

Pepperpete

I've got one. The solenoids are external. It's a really light engine to begin with but I'm not sure if the weight rating includes the solenoids or not. The Kingtech mentioned above is also a great engine but I'm absolutely blown away by the Rabbit 100. Starts every single time and is ultra lightweight overall (which was very important to my project). Excellent acceleration as well. I went with the Rabbit simply because the fuel consumption is excellent and the engine is lightweight. All internal components would have been nice though.

BlueBus320

My Feedback: (57)

Thanks guys, wanted to make sure I was comparing apples to apples. Rabbit looks really nice & I love the thought of a life time warranty, but it Sounds like K100 or P100 for me.

smchale

My Feedback: (67)

Per the RCJI special turbine issue the turbine weight inc mount is 2.41lb, and the ancillaries inc battery is another .98 lbs.
If you haven't seen this issue its a really nice apples to apples (as best as can be done) comparison of current turbines .

david robinson

I bought a K100G from Henry at Modellbau and received it 2 days later. I ran the engine it is awesome and throttle up is instantaneous. I bought then engine when it was on sale at Modellbau I am sure you can probably get the sale price because I know a buddy of mine that bought one yesterday and Henry was nice enough to extend him the sale price

Pepperpete

I would go Kingtech before Jetcat for sure on this one. I've seen too many threads on here about the P100 having issues. I was really on the edge between Kingtech and Jet Central. Can't go wrong with either.

BlueBus320

My Feedback: (57)

thanks guys. Leaning heavily towards Kingtech K100. Not the prettiest, but relatively cheap & reliable from what I can find

Newskin78

Thanks David I sent Henry an email and to my shock he answered the email at 10:00 pm and I placed my order and got the sale price. Many thanks to Modellbau and to you David for mentioning this sale. Any extra money in my pocket is great.

Ramz

Unlike the Rabbit, the K100 will run on diesel and 2 cycle oil...and it does not affect the warranty. For myself, I get diesel for free and the cheapest kero around is 2.50 a litre (twice the price of diesel fuel) so it is a no brainer. I have used my 170F on both kero and diesel and I cannot tell a difference between the 2 fuels. (it actually starts smoother on diesel and i get a bit more white smoke upon shut down)

Sparhawk

Sorry Mark, but you are wrong. All versions of the Rabbit will run on diesel... mixed with 2.5% synthetic oil.

Also, when comparing weights, I see no point in adding battery weight as every installation may be different. Most valves are the same, so a comparison of just the turbine weight is more meaningful, as far I am concerned.

Dan

Pepperpete

Yup I'm pretty sure when I was looking at the Rabbit that diesel was one of the selling points. Kero is getting too pricey these days.

BlueBus320

My Feedback: (57)

Hey Dan, if you go by turbine weight won't the rabbit weigh less (compared to K100/P100) because the solenoids are external. I may be missing something, but it appears all turbines should be weighed by "on board/flight equipment" minus battery. That way it's all apples to apples as far as weight goes. It'd be nice if all specs were standardized across the board also

Ramz

Good point. I thought it was not rated for diesel. Good to know.

RCISFUN

My Feedback: (44)

Rabbit 100......Hands down!
But then again I may be biased

gunradd

My Feedback: (9)

For me service is more important then all the other factors. I was having problems at Kentucky Jets and Eric gave me a loaner unit and sent mine in for service. After driving 15 hours for an event it would have been a huge let down not to fly the whole week. Also I got it all at no charge. Any other turbine I would have been not flying. JC goes to many events and keeps all thier customers happy. Eric is the man!

essyou35

My Feedback: (11)

I am not saying which one is better, but only wanted to point out the rabbit is physically smaller than the K100 by quite a bit. Here is my rabbit next to my K80 which is identical in size to the K100.

Here are some more facts/differences of my K80 vs the rabbit, which I assume would be similar with the K100:

Rabbit starts twice as fast for some reason, not a big deal but something to note.
K80 is quite at full throttle, barely here it 100 feet up.
The rabbits is much louder at full throttle. This is good or bad depending on what you want, I like noise!
The Rabbit's ECU is locked down and if it gets out of whack you need 4-5 bad starts to get it to learn the right parameters again. The K80 you have full control.


Oh, one other odd difference. For kero or Jet A, the rabbit only needs 2.5% oil, the K80 needs 5%. I run 5% in my rabbit because I dont want to keep two fuel jugs.

If they would of had the K100 6 months ago I would own that instead of the rabbit for sure. I love my K80 and I feel like if I lose it in a crash I can replace it. The rabbit at 2800 is a hard loss to take.

One other thing, Kingtech' s support cannot be beat. I've heard a lot of good thinga bout jet central but I had a hard time getting help when my rabbit kept flaming out due to a bad lipo. After a month or so I did get a new lipo and all is well!.

I will only buy kingtech from now one. Now they just need a 120 sized turbine!

storrie23

JET CENtRAL ENGINES ARE APPROVED FOR DIESEL AND @ 2 CYCLE OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Newskin78

So are all King Techs and $1000 cheaper with lifetime warranty as well

Pepperpete

Both are excellent engines and the kingtech is one amazing value at the price. But I also wouldn't trade in my Rabbit. It's a work of art. If cost is a major factor you won't be dissapointed in the Kingtech but if money is a bit easier to come by, the Rabbit is stunning.

rcand

The weight of the Rabbit 100 includes the starter. This engine is very small for the power it puts out. It flies my CARF UF like one of my friends old Flash with a Modellbau 750 boosted to 22-24 pounds.

gunradd

My Feedback: (9)

But from what I saw and herd from kingtech owners at jet meets is only certain parts are coverd and sometimes you do get a bill back. Also some people get great engines and some people get engines they are not so happy with. I can rememeber one kingtech owner at Kentucky jets saying Kingtech engines are hit or miss. You just hope you get one of the good ones.

I will say most of the people I talked to with them love them. I like the fact that they are making turbine flight possible for people that dont have alot of $$.

VF84sluggo

My Feedback: (55)

I'm looking for a turbine to go in an Elan I just got. I hear great stuff about the Rabbit, and two guys in my club have them and rave about it. But dang, at $200 more than a P100RX, the Rabbit seems pricey to me.

The K100G looks great, but wow, is that a big engine or what?! Thanks for the pic, Essyou35! With an engine that big, I might as well pull the P120 out of my L39 and put it in the Elan!

Sluggo

essyou35

My Feedback: (11)

The rabbit is wasted on a boomer. Its a high performance turbine. K80 would be better utilized imo.
It is much smaller thana p80 though..

The k80 is the right size. The rabbit is the size of a p60, just crazy small and powerful.

RCISFUN

My Feedback: (44)

Randy,
You would LOVE the Rabbit... bar none!

Comparing the others to the Rabbit is like comparing a Pink Hello Kitty Tank to a Ferrari...LOL


Just Kidding