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Old 01-30-2014, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sysiek View Post
I think the cnc mashing should costs less than hand made products and the 3d powder printing will be available to all in the near future from computer store just like regular laser printer with sample 3d programs to all ,and for the reason I'm out for now I will use the ugly hand made cockpits and pilots for less. Wojtek you stuff is super nice and 100% scale but som of them should cost less ,I just powder 3d printed the full 1:4 scale cockpit using the BB f-16 for pictures and blow to the 1:4 scale using 0.8mm thickness print we use only 3.8 quick " of powder material for the totall cockpit super lighte and the totall think cost me $200 with the 3D printed pilot .

If we did use powder material it WOULD cost less... Powder material is gritty and not suited for fine detail on the level we produce. Most of our prints are in UV cured 3d SLS/sla printed resins. Also, we don't sell at cost of material. There is work involved actually making the models, making them so they can be printed, investing in inventory, materials, etc , etc .. Many items after time is added up wont even break minimum wage for any profit made, lol . To those that know how to make 3d models, and have ways of printing, that's awesome. I think the modeling community needs more people like this to embrace new technologies and methods. For those that do not have time time, or circumstances to make their own, or maybe that's not where their abilities are, there is a whole range of products from different manufacturers they can use. Usually, you get what you pay for... some people don't find value in some things and other do .. Now the guy that started the thread asked for stuff for his euro, therefore my posts. If you would like to offer him your home made cockpit, then go ahead and do so also and and let him know what you want for it Ultimately , each modeler/consumer chooses what they find value in


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Voy
Old 01-30-2014, 09:24 PM
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I think the plug got damaged doing the final work never actuality got finished?it was superb job so bad .
Old 01-30-2014, 09:50 PM
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Yes you 100 % correct the 3d printing is pores and looks just ok ,and I don't try to sale the cockpits ,the developing cost tons of time and $ ,in other hand the 3d printing getting much better now the able to do glass like clear material mix with metal totally simless and with glossy finish the using 6-10 different powder materials not just one powder and color activator ,the technology go in super speed ,so the will be engines and other mechanical thinks with no screws and multiple parts and gaskets ,just picture super light engine with transmission with no screws all in one super light 350 h power motorcycle engine with frame all from super 3D printer ,or other thinks we using now just picture metal industry with no lathe and Cnc mashies . I'm not mention the army and other thinks like NASA .

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Old 01-30-2014, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sysiek View Post
Yes you 100 % correct the 3d printing is pores and looks just ok ,and I don't try to sale the cockpits ,the developing cost tons of time and $ ,in other hand the 3d printing getting much better now the able to do glass like clear material mix with metal totally simples and with glossy finish the using 6-10 different powder materials not just one powder and color activator ,the technology go in super speed ,so the will be engines and other mechanical thinks with no screws and multiple parts and gaskets ,just picture super light engine with transmission with no screws all one super light 350 h power motorcycle engine with frame all from super 3D printer ,or other thinks we using now just picture metal industry with no lathe and Cnc mashies .
actually the technology has not been progressing in 3d printing all that fast .. its just that more people are aware of it these days, and this is due to the push on the home based 3d printed market.. the problem with most FDM under $5K printers is that their quality is horrible. FGo read the makerbot forums.. 1/2 those printers dont even print right as per the low grade specs they are made to put out .. I agree, costs will continue to go down but not that fast yet .. Speeds in printing will always be limited by materials... resin cure speeds, nylon, abs, sla, etc heating and cooling speeds, temp dissipation , etc ..

now going back to the nylon powder printing .. yes, you can smooth it . It can actually be done in acetone vapor., but this is not good for anything with detail. If someone wants yet another Yoda print out, or a better gnome statuette, then this works, lol but not for scale items with details in them.

Here's some details how they come out in high res resins .. i think this would be a better discussion for a 3d printing thread otherwise however



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Old 01-31-2014, 02:25 AM
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I'm riding a camouflaged version of SU35.
Old 01-31-2014, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rhklenke View Post
The speed break isn't that hard to install. Todd Witkoff did a nice build addendum document that includes instructions on how to do it. It definitely adds "cool factor"

You can find the document here:

http://www.flyunitedteam.net/articoli/euro_mods.pdf
Man.. I search RCU & Tod website for that pdf file, ended up doing something different. I think thats why it was soo hard.

Geonato that's a nice looking Euro

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Old 01-31-2014, 05:33 AM
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WOW!!
Great to see a new Carf Eurosport thread jump into life>> :-)
Just started my build on a Swiss scheme ,here are a few pics.
Power will be Kingtech K170f.
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Old 01-31-2014, 07:25 AM
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I was super close to this paint job on one eurofighter .
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Old 01-31-2014, 07:38 AM
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Wow a lot of nice birds, anyone fly with the Carf wepons set? How dose it change your fligihts?
Old 01-31-2014, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wojtek View Post
If hou need a cockpit, we have a super scale one shipping end of feb , early March.







The HUD can be backlit, and there is the option of working MFDs ..



Voy

Voy,
email me how much for a complete cockpit.

Thomas
Old 01-31-2014, 08:56 AM
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Hi

I have one with P100 turbine

Weight including 2L fuel is 13 kg

On youtube there is one flying with Eurosport and P80 turbine

No problem
Old 01-31-2014, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sysiek View Post
I was super close to this paint job on one eurofighter .
I am about to start on my Euro soon, it will be painted in this scheme, should look awesome
Old 01-31-2014, 10:50 AM
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Hey Vinnyjet (Vinny), glad to see you are enjoying my former Eurofighter. I still love that fantasy military scheme. She still looks awsome!
Old 01-31-2014, 12:04 PM
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hey mark everyone likes it a lot of the guys say hello I told the guys I got it from you
vinny
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Originally Posted by mikes68charger View Post
Wow a lot of nice birds, anyone fly with the Carf wepons set? How dose it change your fligihts?
Almost had forgotten about this one. Probably one of the better build threads out there.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...ld-thread.html

While Todd's info on installing the airbrake is second to none, it's still a PITA to do and make it work right. I recently modified mine a little from Todd's instructions and made mine to be removable instead of fixed and also tightened up the gaps around the pivot points.

http://www.flyunitedteam.net/articoli/euro_mods.pdf
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Great to hear, Vinny. Easily on eof the best flying airplanes I ever owned. Truth is, I miss her now. But happy to see she is in very good hands.
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Hi all,
Thought I would share a vid of my mate doing an awesome flight with his Euro 3D Down Under Australia!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_QIv3DOog0
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A few pics of my Jim Fox Typhoon, thinking about adding the afterburner rings also, powered with a Merlin 90

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Just in case there is any interest for anyone happening upon this thread, this is how I went about installing the airbrake to make it removable. The pivot block is an old JMP F-4 stab pivot that I had lying around. Four bolts in the pivot and two for the air cylinder pivot and the whole thing comes out.


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Had to backfill around the pivots as I didn't like the wide gaps. This was accomplished by epoxying poly to the back side and filling with hysol and sanding flush with the outside skin.



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Hi I just find this good looking euro.
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Old 02-03-2014, 07:00 AM
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Love that scheme. I just picked up an ancient Euro that needed some work. I did notice the nose gear did not have rubber bands to pull the cables but it's been flown that way for years (apparently). Is the gear fouling a recurring issue?
Old 02-13-2014, 06:12 PM
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Hi Guys,

Just starting to get some bits and pieces ready. Does anyone know if these tanks http://www.jettechusa.com/collection...-fuel-tank-set will fit with the intairco inlet ducting?

Thanks

Jeremy
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Jeremy
Mine arrived yesterday here is a rough look at the fit.
Sling..
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:35 PM
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Thanks Sling,

When out of the wrap do they clear the hole diameter on the back former?

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