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Old 09-12-2014, 03:35 PM
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Default AVANTI XXL Build....

Someone mentioned starting a thread....So lets get at it.......Now I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the fastest builder in the world...So everybody pitch in and we'll go thru the process...

First, This is a NICE jet..Packing was great..no problems at all....Well...Lets get to that in a moment...

Manual starts you out on the wings....And you gotta just laugh about it... But you have to cut out a couple of slots in each surface to mount the control horns.... The Funny part is there is a note that says " If there is no wood inside aileron.first glue wood into aileron before securing horn". DO what ????????????Guys /SKYMASTER I'd pay the extra money for the wood to be there...
Guess What........Hollow as a balloon inside......LOL.
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:41 PM
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So you start scratching your head.... And even though I know an outstanding auto painter...I don't really want to start cutting holes in my airplane... SOOOOO... I cut out a section on the end on the aileron....Build a hardwood block with precut slots for the horns .........Inserted this block thru the side hole and QPOXYED ( Greatest stuff ever) the whole thing in place...
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:45 PM
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Then I buttoned the end back up with some balsa and Dolphin Glaze.....A little rattle can magic....and one down PROBABLY 6 to go.....
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:47 PM
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Ridiculous that after all these years SM still cant put blocks in the control surfaces. This isnt one sitting on the shelf for a couple of years before it sold. Chinese engineering and QC still doesnt cut it.
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I hope someone from Skymaster is listening and making the necessary fixes. I was about to order one but now I will wait. Thanks for being honest.
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If this is how my jets comes to me after being on pre-oder for 46 weeks I'm going to be sending it back along with a bill asking for interest.
Old 09-12-2014, 06:27 PM
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My good friend is almost finished his Avant XXL and had the same problem no hard points in any of the surfaces. Did similar fix to above.
Old 09-12-2014, 09:18 PM
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Sorry ,for the problem, i alreasy asked my QC staff want to check it , before send to paint factory , i think that we will save thi problem soon,
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So i can expect to not have solid blocks in my Avanti XXL when it arrives? Not cool, im not going through this crap again.

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Glad to hear they're looking at it....Not a PROBLEM...more like ??? problem....So today I'm working the other wing.....Once you've got it down...its a pretty quick fix... More pics as I move along
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Originally Posted by tp777fo View Post
Ridiculous that after all these years SM still cant put blocks in the control surfaces. This isnt one sitting on the shelf for a couple of years before it sold. Chinese engineering and QC still doesnt cut it.
I can't believe people still pay good money for this stuff. Not putting wood blocks in a painted control surface is a major problem. Who would do that? That would be like
washing your foot with a sock on.
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Nobody else to buy from,
Old 09-13-2014, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haddox View Post
I can't believe people still pay good money for this stuff. Not putting wood blocks in a painted control surface is a major problem. Who would do that? That would be like
washing your foot with a sock on.
That's a good one Mike..........Both wings done...Next step to stabs.......Will post pics and the detail...
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The joys ( ? ) of being a trailblazer I guess. So, on my kit received a month ago it is the same deal. So blocks need to be put in. I also had a minor fit issue with the top deck. Mine actually had the glass preglued in which was really nicely done but it was put in without the frame aligned with the fuse. This resulted in a slight bow that required the front windshield to be popped out and a new one put into place. Skymaster dealt with this immediately. I would also suggest that you check the length of the aileron hinge rod. My right one was too short to engage all the hinges...again Skymaster has been notified and this has been corrected. My ailerons and flaps bind and will require the top and bottom of the trailing wing trailing edge to be cut back a little. Little niggly things but when it put together all those little annoyances go away. So...just some things to be aware of. I will start serious construction in the next couple of weeks. It will be Kingtech 210 powered with the thrust vector, iGyro and smoke.

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Hi everyone,

I am waiting for my XXL to arrive and I would like to convert the retracts to electric gear, including brakes.
Can you guys give some specs which size, which struts, etc?

Thanks,
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I know a friend who ordered a Hawk 100 recently and the quality of the construction is a nightmare ,glue everywhere,over spray inside the fuse, wings,
hinges fairing where miss aligned. For me it was a total deception, how come a $6,000 jet comes like that?
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because despite being in taiwan its still Chinese quality, people on rcu think some how SKymaster is at the same level as CARF. THEY ARE NOT.
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was it Skymaster?
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Originally Posted by osvaldopv View Post
I know a friend who ordered a Hawk 100 recently and the quality of the construction is a nightmare ,glue everywhere,over spray inside the fuse, wings,
hinges fairing where miss aligned. For me it was a total deception, how come a $6,000 jet comes like that?
For the life of me I don't understand why people put up with this. Unbelievable.
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Some photos of my good friends (CassieMitch) Avanti XXL assembly. Not really builds anymore. He also had alignment issues with the canopy but he tells me all sorted. He is not so computer literate.

Kingtech 210, Powerbox SRS, iGyro for vectoring assistance, Electron ER50's for retracts drop in fit, Skymaster Oleo's for the Avanti XXL. Intairco Electric brakes and wheels, SWB Arms, Futaba servos, 18MZ.

Two weeks time for the maiden.
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Here are some videos he made also during his assembly. Sports jets however I feel need Sports Pilots.

http://youtu.be/W5AHtKfa8SM
http://youtu.be/D19ELkTfTkQ
http://youtu.be/2RuFyQMNpBY
http://youtu.be/AxGsLccEQ3Q
http://youtu.be/XscBQvMolnU
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thanks for the info, i was looking at either the electrons or behotec C50s no that i know the electrons are drop fit i might just use them plus Dreamworks will be my support on them.
i dont suppose u know what size the break drum is? trying to find the diameter of the center hole and the over all size.

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use intairco wheels and brakes , er 50s , skymaster legs .
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Originally Posted by cassiemitch View Post
use intairco wheels and brakes , er 50s , skymaster legs .
Im guessing this is because the SM wheels wouldnt work with the brake system. Do happen to know which ones were used?
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Originally Posted by cassiemitch View Post
use intairco wheels and brakes , er 50s , skymaster legs .
Can you refer me to the right size and type of wheels\brakes that will fit the elctron system?

Thanks,
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