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Old 05-07-2015, 11:07 AM
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Yup the 91 runs a Byron fan pretty good but is not up to the rpm needed for the smaller fans imo....
I have never had any issues running the .91 in a Dynamax and definitely more power than the .77 in a Dynamax.
Old 05-07-2015, 03:31 PM
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Someday I may have to break out my Top Gun Interceptor with a Dynamax fan and an OS .91, last time I flew it was at Heart of Ohio in 1997 or 8.

Old 05-07-2015, 04:52 PM
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I still have at least 1 case of wildcat fuel. Loved flying my TG Mig 29. I have the AD rafeal on BVM setup and the Byron T33 on turbine along with the Byron F20. May have to get them back out
Old 05-10-2015, 09:07 PM
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How would I tell what type of fan I have in my plane? I have 2 units, one that is in the plane, and one that is out. The one that is out of the plane has no markings whatsoever. It looks to be a tractor configuration, where the engine would mount behind the fan unit, and the fan has 11 blades.

The one that is mounted in the plane is in a pusher (engine in front of the fan unit), and only has 5 fan blades. And I can't see any markings on it either.

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Old 05-10-2015, 09:11 PM
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The tractor is likely a Dynamax, pusher is likely a Bryon. Best bet is to post a couple pictures,
Old 05-11-2015, 05:55 AM
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seajay the one with 5 blades is a byron fan blade i think the other is a dynamax
Old 05-13-2015, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by grbaker
I have never had any issues running the .91 in a Dynamax and definitely more power than the .77 in a Dynamax.
With the dynomax in the little Yellow A4 os 77 powered with every other stator blade removed she spins up real good and very fast for a nitro ducted fan, probably 150 mph, the 91 has more power for sure but the plane will not hit speeds like that until you get over the 20,000 rpm barrier, the pipe length is also very important, a cmb67 marine pipe works real good at about 12.250 " glow plug to fat part of the pipe........................
Old 05-13-2015, 02:56 PM
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Yellow A4
Ahhh, now it makes sense. The .91 will definitely turn more RPMs than a .77. I have seen significant speed increases when upgrading from .77 to .91. Night and day difference between a .77 powered Starfire and one with a .91
The inlets on the YA A4 are probably a bit small for a .91. If you could get enough inlet air to the Dynamax fan I betcha your Scooter would really scoot with a .91.
Old 05-13-2015, 09:57 PM
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Saw one fly, in the form of a Viggen, for the first time at a Top Gun jet meet in UK. One of the top 2 or 3 highlights of the day for me. It flew great. OS91 on a Ramtec fan I think Jamie told me. The light wasn't fantastic on that day but I'll put together a vid of it flying. On the day it won the 'Peter Nye Memorial Trophy' and rightly so as by the judges criteria they reckoned that 'Pete would have liked that'.

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Old 05-14-2015, 05:42 AM
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As I said earlier, I think the OS .91 is still in production (may have to buy direct from Japan), Tom Cook has Dynamax fans and pipe adapters, and you could use a Weston mini pipe.

What dont have are airframes and overall interest. With Yellow out of the picture, some of the finest DF airframes are now gone.
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FALCONWINGS try a balsa usa enforcer kit easy to build and very easy to fly i have one yet os91 fan engine top speed maybe 125mph
Old 05-14-2015, 06:43 AM
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I had one of those a long time ago, powered by an OS 1.20 FS. It was pretty fast, even for a four stroke powered bird, Great kit too. Lots of sanding!!
Old 05-14-2015, 06:54 AM
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It's great to hear that there are still some DF flyers out there. It's such a great from of RC jet flying...I grew up surrounded by DF's and miss those days. So many great memories!

Here's some old school DF action from the late 80s/early 90s. This is a Mark Frankel designed Skyray at a Scale Masters competition. If you can't tell from the takeoff, it was a hot day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3zFtEjCbQ0
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Originally Posted by DominicM
Saw one fly, in the form of a Viggen, for the first time at a Top Gun jet meet in UK. One of the top 2 or 3 highlights of the day for me. It flew great. OS91 on a Ramtec fan I think Jamie told me. The light wasn't fantastic on that day but I'll put together a vid of it flying. On the day it won the 'Peter Nye Memorial Trophy' and rightly so as by the judges criteria they reckoned that 'Pete would have liked that'.
Dominic, that DF Viggen is awesome. I saw it in your compilation video, flew great!
Old 05-14-2015, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DominicM
Saw one fly, in the form of a Viggen, for the first time at a Top Gun jet meet in UK. One of the top 2 or 3 highlights of the day for me. It flew great. OS91 on a Ramtec fan I think Jamie told me. The light wasn't fantastic on that day but I'll put together a vid of it flying. On the day it won the 'Peter Nye Memorial Trophy' and rightly so as by the judges criteria they reckoned that 'Pete would have liked that'.

Dom, that is a video i would love to see!! i have not seen any video of the Viggen of a decent duration, if you can do it that would be great!!
Old 05-14-2015, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jet20
Dominic, that DF Viggen is awesome. I saw it in your compilation video, flew great!
The model was is from a Jim Fox kit with spring air retracts, which i believe was based on a scale model designed by Einar Jonsson. The JFM Viggen was used to win Top gun UK three times (Jim Fox 92,93 and John Sowersby in 94) back in 90's when it first started. The model pictured is powered by an OS 91 VRDF/Ramtec fan unit with a BVM/MACS pipe, it is also fitted with a BVM inflight mixture valve.

I love the sound of a DF model ( i know! i'm weird!) Top gun DF comp's used at our local club at Westonzoyland airfield in Somerset and a few of the other DF meets were not too far away, i used to go to a few with my Dad. I always wanted (and still do!) a full house BVM ducted fan with the Viojett/Nelson set up, hush kit etc, ideally and Aggressor II/III or viper/Ultra Viper. I am a bit of a DF nutter in that i have a growing collection of fan units and DF engines, surprising what is still about!

The Viggen popped up second hand in superb condition a couple of years ago, i just had to have it! it flys very well and is definitely a keeper. The kits are now back in limited production from Russ Thorjet (bought by Russ from the Thorpe brothers) as well as a few of the Pete Nye (Fanjets) designs. A lot of builders now are putting small turbines such as the Wren 44 in them.
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Old 05-14-2015, 08:09 AM
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The video in the attached link was taken by Ron Sweeney in 1991 at the first Top gun UK meeting to be held. It took place at Westonzoyland airfield in somerset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RXx-o3kklM

This is a model i would love to fly!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YSlq3RYXJY

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Old 05-21-2015, 11:25 AM
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Looking for a JMP StarFire kit if anybody has 1.

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I have a brand new OS 91 in the box if anyone is interested. Well not "brand new" but in the box and never run.
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how much
Old 05-21-2015, 09:27 PM
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I am curious if anyone still flies nitro Ducted Fan anymore?

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Old 05-21-2015, 10:42 PM
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Maybe one day I'll get round to re-finishing this one.. BVM F16 with the BVM 91R motor.
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:22 PM
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:53 PM
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What was peak hp for an ICDF motor?

thx in advance for any input
Old 05-22-2015, 01:02 AM
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Hi guys,

I have a BVM96 mounted on a BVM fan with BVM pipe that I took many years ago out of my BVM T-33 when I converted it to turbine. I also have quite a few new DF accessories, mostly BVM. I know there are remote needle valves, wheels, oleos and various carbon fittings of the era. If anyone is interested PM me and I will make a list of them.

Cheers,

Jan


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