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Pilot-rc PREDATOR 2.2m Sport jet / full composite

Old 01-28-2021, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jarizaga
Hello
Regarding the previous comments of wing detachment,

I have the latest version of predator where it comes with two clamps per wing
(I saw that the previous version with a single clamp came out the wings)

This is due to not having a mechanical lock to prevent the wing from dismounting in flight.
If the screws are loosened, the wing will loosen.

I decided to drill a hole in the aluminium front wing tube
so you can install a home made 2mm clip pins introducing the hand from the air intake
This clip pins is placed after the hitch on the inside of the fuselage, preventing the wing from coming off


haa!!
And in elevators i did the same with a traxxas clip pin

Regards
I can't upload photos,
I wish very much to get more than 10 posts


Pictures would have been great..... or a YouTube video.

Thanks
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Old 01-30-2021, 04:37 PM
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Ok
Video Jeje


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Old 03-13-2021, 10:09 AM
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I had the Predator with the wing fixation in the middle. To avoid that the wings goes out I drilled a hole in the clamping and pin put a thread in so the screw goes through the clamping and pin.
With this you never lose the wing.

Unfortunately I had a crash landing. I ordered some spare parts at pilot but get the wrong ones.
It was a long story at the end I sold the damaged plain.

I'm really disappointed and upset from pilot rc service.


Old 03-31-2021, 06:48 AM
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Hello everyone
Question over CG point

with empty main tank and using CG tool

The nose

1) Down (I don't think so because the main tank is full es very heavy nose down)
2) Up, how much?

If you can guide me a more about that.-

To level plane
what weight putting where
or loading the tank how many fuel (mL o CC) need to level

thank you
Old 04-05-2021, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jarizaga
Hello everyone
Question over CG point

with empty main tank and using CG tool

The nose

1) Down (I don't think so because the main tank is full es very heavy nose down)
2) Up, how much?

If you can guide me a more about that.-

To level plane
what weight putting where
or loading the tank how many fuel (mL o CC) need to level

thank you

Hello,

just did my Predator maiden flight yesterday.

I adjusted the CG with 50% tank volume aprox. 2.3L. Then I used the CG tool supplied with the kit. works pretty nice. Adjust the Predator with the nose slightly pointing down.

Of course it depants on you installation. My predator needed 200gr of weight at the rear end.

Maiden flight was totally save with this CG.

Note: My Predator needs 1-2mm down trim with the flaps in position start and landing. It looks that the point of lift is moving forward if you lower the flaps.

More fine trim will follow!!

BR

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Old 04-05-2021, 07:00 AM
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Hi Dirk, thank you very much for the information

I did not make the first flight yet

What did you think of for the first flight?

I read that it behaves very well, predictable plane and nice to fly
Old 04-05-2021, 07:15 AM
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Yes very easy to fly,
During landing flare I had a touch down speed of 45kmh.
Of course this is related to your wing load. Remainig fuel was aprox. 1.3L at touch down

From what I can say after only two flights yesterday no nasty behaivior of this plane.

Observation:
My Pradator needs approx. 1mm left aileron trim. Not a big thing but Im investigation were it comes from.
One possible cause could be a weight difference between left an right wing. My right wing is/was 5% (70gr) more heavy then the left wing.
One hour ago i made a correction of this. Will see if this helps to correct the aileron trim issue.

Unfortunately we have no good weather conditions at the moment to fly and check here in Germany.

BR
Dirk



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Old 04-05-2021, 07:27 AM
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Thank you Dirk
Good Flights!
Old 05-07-2021, 08:16 AM
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Old 05-08-2021, 08:29 AM
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Great landing! I have enjoyed my Predator 2.2 and mine lands like that also.
Old 05-17-2021, 11:41 AM
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HI
about 3 years ago



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Old 05-17-2021, 11:47 AM
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Default my flight last Friday

Hi
Predator with Bf-140F
still have problem with smoke system

Old 06-15-2021, 07:02 AM
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Default Wing Replacement

I recently replace a damaged wing on my predator 2.2M due to a crash landing "screwing with my CG 😏 Anyway Mike from pilot rc send me the upgraded wing W/O the center clamp style.
My question is how can I make this wing work on a older
Design? Pictures below


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Old 06-16-2021, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by basimpsn
I recently replace a damaged wing on my predator 2.2M due to a crash landing "screwing with my CG 😏 Anyway Mike from pilot rc send me the upgraded wing W/O the center clamp style.
My question is how can I make this wing work on a older
Design? Pictures below

Hi, the easiest way is that fix the wing tube on new wing and screw the old wing as Same as before
Old 06-16-2021, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Abedinpour
Hi, the easiest way is that fix the wing tube on new wing and screw the old wing as Same as before
I was thinking of doing that but as you can see the new wing is open i guess to save weight and doesn't have any structure to mount the old style shaft...even worse I can't find that piece from the damage wing.

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Old 06-16-2021, 04:46 AM
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You can put a piece of aluminum inside the wing,

that has the part inserted in the fuselage and fixed with epoxy

wait for more pictures




Old 06-16-2021, 05:06 AM
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The photos are not to scale, excuse me

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Old 06-16-2021, 06:42 AM
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Ok thanks for the information 😇
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Old 10-31-2022, 03:52 PM
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Default Tank plumbing

Picked up second hand-

has a MAP UAT plumed in ( defeats purpose of a built in UAT )

Does the built in UAT work as well as a BVM UAT?

Can someone tell me what each fitting is for?




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Got it figured out
Old 12-01-2022, 06:32 AM
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Reviving an old thread a bit. I'm back! I was on this thread until about a year ago. I had sold my navy scheme Predator and switched to three different sizes of Rebel. I eventually sold two of them, kept the "classic" for a while and ended up selling it because I felt I was outflying its structural limitations and would only be a matter of time before I witnessed it explode mid-flight!
Although the Predator is a good bit heavier It has at least some carbon fiber in it and is rock-solid, and the 'turbine ready' version is just an awesome value at $3700 shipped, so I bought another one! Scheme below.
My questions for today are:
1) Is the new wing attachment using two clamps around tubes(vs one clamp on an aluminum plate) a vast improvement that has proven 100% reliable with zero slippage? Or modification still needed?
2) have they addressed the integrated UAT internal leak issues, at all? My last one had the issue and I was just sent another of the same tank that I feared would just develop the same issue so I went with a remote UAT. If nobody as of late has had the issue I'd like to keep the setup simple.
Last jet had a swiwin 170. I think this one will have a slightly de-tuned 190 in it.


Old 12-01-2022, 07:58 AM
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Default new predator

Originally Posted by bodywerks
Reviving an old thread a bit. I'm back! I was on this thread until about a year ago. I had sold my navy scheme Predator and switched to three different sizes of Rebel. I eventually sold two of them, kept the "classic" for a while and ended up selling it because I felt I was outflying its structural limitations and would only be a matter of time before I witnessed it explode mid-flight!
Although the Predator is a good bit heavier It has at least some carbon fiber in it and is rock-solid, and the 'turbine ready' version is just an awesome value at $3700 shipped, so I bought another one! Scheme below.
My questions for today are:
1) Is the new wing attachment using two clamps around tubes(vs one clamp on an aluminum plate) a vast improvement that has proven 100% reliable with zero slippage? Or modification still needed?
2) have they addressed the integrated UAT internal leak issues, at all? My last one had the issue and I was just sent another of the same tank that I feared would just develop the same issue so I went with a remote UAT. If nobody as of late has had the issue I'd like to keep the setup simple.
Last jet had a swiwin 170. I think this one will have a slightly de-tuned 190 in it.

Newest version of predator and hidden wing bolts on KE and TE. No more hokes in fuselage. Fuselage is now 1 piece, pain in the butt to get tube in. Tank is now without uat built in. The tank plunger/stopper leaks, use SEAL A


4LL to fix. The new jet is a bit lighter. Also, i can get more throws on rudder. I fly with ace 170, and ace 190, both are almost identical in performance.
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hidden wing bolts on KE and TE
I assume KE you meant LE? is it still a pinch system or is that bolt actively locking it in place?
Thanks for the heads up on the stopper. Their smoke tank use to come with similar stopper and it also leaked. My solution was also seal-all.
I got the turbine-ready version so I'm hoping the jet pipe is already installed. It looks like I'll find out tonight as it's already on the truck for delivery!
Old 12-01-2022, 09:40 AM
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I'm a little surprised you feel like you can break a Rebel and yet the Predator will hold up.

I've seen some pretty extreme flying with Rebels, way harder than I can push mine without any failures.

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