Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > RC Jets
Reload this Page >

F 100 from "Mirce models" wooden kit

Notices
RC Jets Discuss RC jets in this forum plus rc turbines and ducted fan power systems

F 100 from "Mirce models" wooden kit

Old 03-14-2019, 04:20 AM
  #101  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Sorry for delay.

Photos how I apply details on fuselage of "Mirce models" F 100 Super Sabre.
For guide I used drawings from F 100 book.





Now details...







As you can see I apply panel lines on surface. Panel lines will not be removed. I'll apply paint on all details. So, panel lines will be little convex.
This is much easier method then applying "tons" of filler to made panel lines like "channels".

How to put details, quick lesson in few steps...













Old 03-14-2019, 04:34 AM
  #102  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

























Old 03-14-2019, 03:58 PM
  #103  
kevinthoele
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Spring, TX
Posts: 1,626
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

Love the details. Your doing an awesome job with your build!!!!
Old 03-14-2019, 04:16 PM
  #104  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Thank you Kevin, I want to send this model in next ten days to USA and show it on Top Gun.

Also, if someone want to order wooden kit I can bring it on Top Gun.
No shipping cost + 20% discount on all wooden parts, for order until April 10.

More information on email: [email protected]

Best regards

Mirce
Old 06-12-2019, 12:54 PM
  #105  
LGM Graphix
My Feedback: (22)
 
LGM Graphix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Abbotsford, BC, CANADA
Posts: 5,796
Received 58 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

Anymore updates?
Old 06-25-2019, 03:58 PM
  #106  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Sorry for delay...

In the meantime, the F 100 model arrived in the USA, attracted a lot of attention on the Top Gun competition and found a new owner.

Based on this, three new models were ordered to make them. One goes to Slovenia, and two to USA.

For these new F 100 Super Saber wooden kits we have done a lot of changes, so I can freely say that this is the second generation of this wooden kit.





By dimensions, the model is the same as the previous one, but it differs in a lot of scale details:

- ailerons and flaps are of a different shape
- the front part of the fuselage is of more scale shape and will be printed on a 3D printer
- fuselage upper parts in front of the cabin will be also printed on 3D printer. This will greatly reduce the production time.
- the front landing gear is moved backwards to the scale position
- the suction channel is divided into two sections deeper in the fuselage
- the fuselage is split into two parts behind the wing. On the previous model, the place of disassembly was in front of the wing. Since the front gear was moved backward, the fuselage division had to change.
- 4 carbon or aluminum pipes reinforce the place of disassembly
- it is possible to make a fuselage from one part
- the main landing gears on this model are an integral part of the fuselage, and not wings as on the previous one
- the rear part of the rudder have now a scale shape
- there is a template plate for making wings
- the rear cone on the fuselage will also be printed on a 3D printerAll other details are same like on previous model.
Cockpit fit also from previous model, same like Behotec C50 landing gears.

I already work on ordered F 100 Super Saber models.
The first will have a fuselage from one part and the other two will have two parts fuselage.
Wings, elevators, rudders and wing tanks are same on both models.

Elevators:








To be continued...

Old 06-26-2019, 04:32 AM
  #107  
dionysusbacchus
My Feedback: (25)
 
dionysusbacchus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: McQueeney, TX
Posts: 2,490
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Mirce, Long time no talk, hope you and the family are doing great. I have been away from the hobby, I no longer fly RC, mainly because of local club politics, but I would love to build one of these to hang in my man cave. All of my other models are in storage or hanging from the ceiling, but I have a deep urge to sand balsa again!

Your F-100 needed these changes to make a better scale presentation, I will follow the build and may place an order for all of your parts shortly.
Take care my friend,
Luke
Old 06-26-2019, 03:07 PM
  #108  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Good evening Luke, I'm glad to hear you. As you can see we change F 100 wooden kit, so now will be more scale. Hope you will like that and made order...

OK, back to workshop, on wings we change flap and aileron shape, flap now go near fuselage, no more wing profile contour on fuselage.
Other main change, mail landing gears are now part of the fuselage, so gears are not in the wings any more.

For more precise and faster build we made "building template" for wings. This plate will be part of F 100 Super Sabre generation II wooden kit.
Ply parts are from 4 mm poplar ply and cover is 3 mm balsa.










You need few minutes to put parts on exactly place, it's like a Puzzle!!!!
Please, check how everything fit, no need for sanding.
Aluminum tube is required during assembling due to alignment of parts.







Old 06-26-2019, 04:23 PM
  #109  
patf
My Feedback: (4)
 
patf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,882
Received 53 Likes on 45 Posts
Default

Just beautiful.
Old 06-27-2019, 12:50 PM
  #110  
dionysusbacchus
My Feedback: (25)
 
dionysusbacchus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: McQueeney, TX
Posts: 2,490
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Mirce, When will you update your web site with new parts? I would like to get all the parts for a second generation F-100.
Old 06-27-2019, 03:00 PM
  #111  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

I'll update web site in next few days. My friend who made 3D drawings and print parts is now on vacation, so I don't know right price for 3D printed parts.
I want to offer few F 100 wooden kit "combinations".
First is one or two piece fuselage.
Other option is classic all wood kit, or wooden kit with 3D printed parts.
Printed parts will be: front fuselage section, top of the front cover. On rear side, last cone.

I think to print wing and elevator leading edges, same like wing and elevator tips. Maybe landing gears doors...
So, if you don't want to work a lot on many curve surfaces, that will be option.
But, we need to print all this parts first, to check how many filament we need and to calculate price.

In workshop I finished covering wings top side with 3 mm balsa.
Than I remove wings from templates, cut "legs" and install parts for pylons which come inside of the wings.
Of course I made pylons before to have exactly spots for screws. There is a left and right pylon !!!

Same like always I used my servo cover & carrier - Servo carrier & cover - nsmodelers.rs



















Last edited by mirce; 06-27-2019 at 03:04 PM.
Old 06-28-2019, 03:05 AM
  #112  
Jetpilot24
My Feedback: (21)
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Niles, OH
Posts: 1,479
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Mirce,
Are there any flight videos of the F-100?

Joe
Old 06-28-2019, 05:47 AM
  #113  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Hello Joe, you have video on first page #1 post in this topic.
Old 06-29-2019, 03:43 PM
  #114  
kevinthoele
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Spring, TX
Posts: 1,626
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

Mirce

Looks awesome. It appears as if you are framing up three new models. Is that an option that is available? If so what are the prices for building?
Old 06-29-2019, 04:19 PM
  #115  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Thank you Kevin, please send me email on: [email protected]
Old 07-04-2019, 11:30 AM
  #116  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Update from last post...

All "small" parts, ailerons, flaps, rudders, rudders moving parts, etc... are finished.








I made all rudders also...





Few days ago I started to make the first one fuselage. This is from one piece, for customer from Slovenia. Other two fuselages will be from two part.The main difference between this and the generation one fuselage are around landing gears.
Aluminum square tubes now carry main landing gears. That means the main gears is no longer part of the wing, it's on the fuselage.
From my Jastreb J21 I took out one Behotec C 50 gear to check how it fit between tubes. On the photos you can see that wheel shaft is on the wrong side, but as I told, I borrowed a gear from another model.
Also, the front gear is shifted back on the scale place.

I photographed the front and back of the fuselage where missing parts that will be printed on a 3D printer. Because now front landing gear is more inside of the fuselage, beginning of the turbine air channels will now be more inside too, and will not be so visible.









All aluminum tubes pass through three points - outside profiles and large, strong ribs in the middle of the fuselage.






To be continued...

Last edited by mirce; 07-04-2019 at 11:34 AM.
Old 07-19-2019, 02:38 PM
  #117  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

This is first of three generation 2 F 100 Super Sabre from "Mirce models" wooden kit and this one is with piece fuselage.

I always assemble the whole part without glue, in this case the fuselage, so I see how the parts fit together and how the ordering of the parts is going.
After that, I bundle parts, I always use a white (carpentry) glue.

It is very important to say that the fuselage should be made in the "rails" to ensure that everything is straight.

When the skeleton of the fzselage was assembled and glued, I placed the first plates of 3 mm balsa.
The F 100 model must also be equipped with suction channels to which the air enters the turbine. Openings on the fselage are in the line and the channels are not difficult to make.














When the channels were finished, I made the front opening.
On the first rib in the picture later, a part of the fuselage printed on a 3D printer will be glued, which will give the final shape of the F 100 airplane.












Last edited by mirce; 07-19-2019 at 02:42 PM.
Old 07-22-2019, 02:31 AM
  #118  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Next step was to install rudder on the fuselage.
Since the fuselage stands in the "rails", it is only important that the rudder is stuck at a good angle. On the hull and on the rudder there are openings and vertical panels that pass through them, so the installation is very simple.
Still, it is not a waste of time to check again. I used a simple tool with an angle of 90 degrees.












Turbine cover...







Lid on the front fuselage part.




Elevator box. This box with elevators & servos is removable for easier transport.





As I glued a pair of 3mm balsa plates on the fuselage and stiffed it, I pulled out the fuselage from the "rail" and cut off the "legs".




To be continued...
Old 07-22-2019, 03:38 AM
  #119  
redtail
My Feedback: (15)
 
redtail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 2,616
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Simply -- WOW. Chic
Old 07-30-2019, 03:24 PM
  #120  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Front landing gear...





Than I continue cover fuselage with 3 mm balsa plates.




















Old 08-01-2019, 02:59 PM
  #121  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

In parallel with this one-piece fuselage, I also make a two-piece fuselage.
It is all the same except few ribs where the front and back assemble.

On this second generation "Mirce models" F 100 wooden kit, the fuselage is now disassembled behind the wings, so that the turbine with tanks remains in the front part.
In the rear part is an exhaust pipe and a box with horizontal stabilizers.
These boxes can also be detached with four screws for easier transportation.

Four aluminum tubes are guides for alignment. With five screws two parts are attached .

















Old 09-14-2019, 06:18 AM
  #122  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

And now something crazy: BID for "Mirce models" F 100!!!!!

Price start from 2000,00$

Yes, you read well: TWO GRAND for brand NEW jet model with 98,5" wingspan and 124" length!!!!!!!!!

Cockpit isn't in this price and it cost extra 500,00$
You can buy model with or without cockpit.

Offers can be sent here, on email, on message...

Super Sabre is from this topic. Model is in Miami, it is finish, with all details on surface and ready for paint.
With model you will get 3D printed wing tanks and pylons.
Old 11-25-2019, 06:26 AM
  #123  
affas
 
affas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lier, NORWAY
Posts: 566
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
Default Electron?

Hi


Anyone with a complete setup of Electron and what angles, lengths, wheels we do need for F100 Electron retracts?
Old 11-25-2019, 10:34 AM
  #124  
mirce
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Senta, Serbia
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

For F 100 we made drwings with Behotec landing gears. Behotec offer struts long enough for scale look. Behotec also have electric gears so you can choose between pneumatic and electric system. Here is all dimensions you need to know before ordering:

F 100 -landing gears - nsmodelers.rs

Please visit "Mirce models" web site, on every model page you have all information...
nsmodelers.rs

Best regards

Mirce
Old 10-24-2020, 05:41 PM
  #125  
RC_MAN
My Feedback: (11)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: LaSalle, ON, CANADA
Posts: 739
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

What grade of balsa do you use?

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.