The new T1 models F16 build thread
#104
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I agree... It looks like it locks then it moves at the end slightly and unlocking. I don't think that slop is an issue because of the angle its at. When the motor drives it to the over center position it wont have slop. I have the prototype here but I am using the xicoy controller. Are you using the xicoy controller or JP controller? You have some kind of sequencing issue or other issue.
#105
I agree... It looks like it locks then it moves at the end slightly and unlocking. I don't think that slop is an issue because of the angle its at. When the motor drives it to the over center position it wont have slop. I have the prototype here but I am using the xicoy controller. Are you using the xicoy controller or JP controller? You have some kind of sequencing issue or other issue.
#106
Even with the lock arm "unlocking" why or how would an electric gear collapse? If the gear has a drive collar that is turned by a worm screw (terminology?) like most others, even if there is no mechanical lock in place how would it be able to move without turning the motor?
#107
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Even with the lock arm "unlocking" why or how would an electric gear collapse? If the gear has a drive collar that is turned by a worm screw (terminology?) like most others, even if there is no mechanical lock in place how would it be able to move without turning the motor?
#108
I agree... It looks like it locks then it moves at the end slightly and unlocking. I don't think that slop is an issue because of the angle its at. When the motor drives it to the over center position it wont have slop. I have the prototype here but I am using the xicoy controller. Are you using the xicoy controller or JP controller? You have some kind of sequencing issue or other issue.
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#117
My K85 is on it's way - should be here Friday so I'm working on setup. I've got a conventional elevator / aileron setup so far.
Are you guys running flaperons? ... or just landing without flaps at all?
Thanks.
Are you guys running flaperons? ... or just landing without flaps at all?
Thanks.
#118
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That CG sounds correct. think my son is using the stock CG location.
right now it just has conventional ailerons and stabs.
it flies great like this.
i will change a few things before him and I go fly next time.
on F16s I pretty much set them up like this.
Condition flaps up.
flapperons up normal ailerons and normal tail set up.
flaps down.
flapperons down (not to much throw because you loose allot of aileron authority) the goal is to give you a little drag. I like to add tailerons in with flapperons to help with roll authority.
this set up will give you a clean flying plane at speed with axial rolls and with flaps down you get drag and extra roll control.
remember all F16s it does not matter big or small need up elevator for the neutral point.
right now it just has conventional ailerons and stabs.
it flies great like this.
i will change a few things before him and I go fly next time.
on F16s I pretty much set them up like this.
Condition flaps up.
flapperons up normal ailerons and normal tail set up.
flaps down.
flapperons down (not to much throw because you loose allot of aileron authority) the goal is to give you a little drag. I like to add tailerons in with flapperons to help with roll authority.
this set up will give you a clean flying plane at speed with axial rolls and with flaps down you get drag and extra roll control.
remember all F16s it does not matter big or small need up elevator for the neutral point.
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#122
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the K85 is allot of motor for this plane. You will be at half throttle most of the flight. She will high alpha like a bigger F16 though. So don’t be afraid to do some passes and get a feel for her slow. On an F16 in an alpha the rudder is very effective at controlling heading so play with that also.
try and keep her close in because she is a rocket ship and will get out of visual site fast.
#123
Question: I have all three batteries back by the turbine and my CG is at @ 150 (nose heavy). The jet weighs in at 17 lbs ready to go with an empty tank. I think it is supposed to be 14.3 dry, so did I pick up 3 lbs somewhere? Not too sure what to do here. Nothing is in the front besides the essentials. All batteries are close to CG and next to the turbine. I re-measured the 160 desired CG and I have it marked correctly, so my 150 measurement is accurate.
Any thoughts? Just add weight to the tail or fly it at 150?
Any thoughts? Just add weight to the tail or fly it at 150?
#124
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Question: I have all three batteries back by the turbine and my CG is at @ 150 (nose heavy). The jet weighs in at 17 lbs ready to go with an empty tank. I think it is supposed to be 14.3 dry, so did I pick up 3 lbs somewhere? Not too sure what to do here. Nothing is in the front besides the essentials. All batteries are close to CG and next to the turbine. I re-measured the 160 desired CG and I have it marked correctly, so my 150 measurement is accurate.
Any thoughts? Just add weight to the tail or fly it at 150?
Any thoughts? Just add weight to the tail or fly it at 150?
how are you measuring the CG?