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Old 12-13-2019, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AEROSHELDON
that is what I did. Removed the connectors and used a servo connector.
you can use a small flat screw driver, or exacting knife to remove the pins from the original case and then install them into a servo type three pin case, yes put them in the end slots, polarity does not matter because you can just flip the pin if the retracts are not all moving the same way.
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Originally Posted by Tip22v
you can use a small flat screw driver, or exacting knife to remove the pins from the original case and then install them into a servo type three pin case, yes put them in the end slots, polarity does not matter because you can just flip the pin if the retracts are not all moving the same way.
yes that is what I did. Thanks
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Thanks. I have plenty of plastic servo connectors carcasses. I build my own extensions often.
Old 12-15-2019, 09:35 PM
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Hmmm. JPhobby just replied back to my inquiry about output voltage. I wonder if I save this email I can hold it against them if I burn my gear motors up...

Old 12-16-2019, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
Hmmm. JPhobby just replied back to my inquiry about output voltage. I wonder if I save this email I can hold it against them if I burn my gear motors up...
So I guess each of us who have measured the output voltage have defective volt meters, that are all defective the exact same way, seems very unlikely.

Can you post the exact wording of how you posed the question? I’m having a hard time believing that JP would be this wrong about their own product (although it’s entirely possible), I’m wondering if they are misunderstanding the question?
Old 12-16-2019, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
Hmmm. JPhobby just replied back to my inquiry about output voltage. I wonder if I save this email I can hold it against them if I burn my gear motors up...
This is correct. What goes incomes out! There is no regulation.
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Originally Posted by Len Todd
This is correct. What goes incomes out! There is no regulation.
In post #83 you said your JP controller was regulated to 7.5v?
Old 12-16-2019, 09:08 AM
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be carefull
most electric retracts are current driven...
meaning a max of mA is used on the gears,,
with JP gears this is very low lower then Electron!
you WILL burn out the motors if you mix them
unless you have a Programmable Gear controller like the CRU
Old 12-16-2019, 09:12 AM
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here is a Example of a Prgrammable Gear controller for Jeti radio,s

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...QwMjM3R2KQDKse
Old 12-16-2019, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by digitech
here is a Example of a Prgrammable Gear controller for Jeti radio,s

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...QwMjM3R2KQDKse
Thx. The LG-15 cutoff current is adjustable, I measured the cutoff current using an Ammeter on the JP controller at .5 amps, then programmed the LG-15 to .5 Amps.

I just received my Digitech CRU, looking forward to trying it with my DS-24 soon
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Originally Posted by Tip22v
Thx. The LG-15 cutoff current is adjustable, I measured the cutoff current using an Ammeter on the JP controller at .5 amps, then programmed the LG-15 to .5 Amps.

I just received my Digitech CRU, looking forward to trying it with my DS-24 soon
0.5 is a good start , we did lots of testing on the JP gears , they are somewhat diffferent in cutoff current.
just look in the CRU status menu to see what they use , and use that to drive your cuttoff current.
Old 12-16-2019, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by digitech
0.5 is a good start , we did lots of testing on the JP gears , they are somewhat diffferent in cutoff current.
just look in the CRU status menu to see what they use , and use that to drive your cuttoff current.
Will do, thanks so much for the help.
Old 12-16-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
Hmmm. JPhobby just replied back to my inquiry about output voltage. I wonder if I save this email I can hold it against them if I burn my gear motors up...

thats the jphobby france , they dont know much technical..
its for a reason JP hobbys uses more then 10 versions of gear controllers ..
Old 12-16-2019, 01:53 PM
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That is correct. The title of this thread is Xicoy LGC 1... . I thought that the Xicoy was what was being referred to. Apparently, it is not clear from the quoted post. My bad.

Bottom Line: The OEM JP controller has a VR, Xicoy LCG 15 does not. What ever voltage goes in that Xicoy comes out to the gear motors. If someone can't seem to figure that out, good luck to them in this aspect of the hobby. It is getting tiring dealing with folks who can't take the time to read manuals and/or figure it out on the bench.

Besides, all you really need to know is that the JP controller is trash and if you use a Xicoy LCG15 to replace it, you may need a VR depending on the type of gear motors you have. If you are not sure what your gear can take, contact the manufacture. We know that you can burn out JP gear motors at 8.4 VDC. That s why the JP controller has the VR.

I set both my E-geared jet up on the bench and started with low voltage and amps and increased volts and amps until they work reliably. Then bump the voltage and amps up one-tenth, just to make sure they work in the air. A good starting point is 7.5 VDC and .5 amps.
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Originally Posted by Len Todd
That is correct. The title of this thread is Xicoy LGC 1... . I thought that the Xicoy was what was being referred to. Apparently, it is not clear from the quoted post. My bad.

Bottom Line: The OEM JP controller has a VR, Xicoy LCG 15 does not. What ever voltage goes in that Xicoy comes out to the gear motors. If someone can't seem to figure that out, good luck to them in this aspect of the hobby. It is getting tiring dealing with folks who can't take the time to read manuals and/or figure it out on the bench.

Besides, all you really need to know is that the JP controller is trash and if you use a Xicoy LCG15 to replace it, you may need a VR depending on the type of gear motors you have. If you are not sure what your gear can take, contact the manufacture. We know that you can burn out JP gear motors at 8.4 VDC. That s why the JP controller has the VR.

I set both my E-geared jet up on the bench and started with low voltage and amps and increased volts and amps until they work reliably. Then bump the voltage and amps up one-tenth, just to make sure they work in the air. A good starting point is 7.5 VDC and .5 amps.
Well said, sorry for the confusion
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Originally Posted by Len Todd
That is correct. The title of this thread is Xicoy LGC 1... . I thought that the Xicoy was what was being referred to. Apparently, it is not clear from the quoted post. My bad.

Bottom Line: The OEM JP controller has a VR, Xicoy LCG 15 does not. What ever voltage goes in that Xicoy comes out to the gear motors. If someone can't seem to figure that out, good luck to them in this aspect of the hobby. It is getting tiring dealing with folks who can't take the time to read manuals and/or figure it out on the bench.

Besides, all you really need to know is that the JP controller is trash and if you use a Xicoy LCG15 to replace it, you may need a VR depending on the type of gear motors you have. If you are not sure what your gear can take, contact the manufacture. We know that you can burn out JP gear motors at 8.4 VDC. That s why the JP controller has the VR.

I set both my E-geared jet up on the bench and started with low voltage and amps and increased volts and amps until they work reliably. Then bump the voltage and amps up one-tenth, just to make sure they work in the air. A good starting point is 7.5 VDC and .5 amps.

we also did a lot of testing with the JP gears with all of them
2S lion is no problem.
on the er200 i use life 9.9 (3S)
so no VR is needed on the JP gears.
however you do need a reall nice Current control.
anythin over it and no rewind will cause jamming and burning of the motors.
so measure your JP current and use this for the controller.
that is why JP have so many controllers to select from , its all about the Max current off.

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So a question about he LG-15. Why wont it store my settings, and keeps resetting back to the original settings?
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I’m not sure, but possibly check the micro SD card to make sure it’s seated and not corrupt?
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Originally Posted by Tip22v
I’m not sure, but possibly check the micro SD card to make sure it’s seated and not corrupt?
Its still saving theboriginal setup, but it doesnt let the doors open before the geqr comes down, so I changed the step 8 to gear up to give time for the doors to open, but it wont save that.
Also it has no SD card. The slot for the micro is empty. It has saved everything else though

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Originally Posted by Desertlakesflying
Its still saving theboriginal setup, but it doesnt let the doors open before the geqr comes down, so I changed the step 8 to gear up to give time for the doors to open, but it wont save that.
Also it has no SD card. The slot for the micro is empty. It has saved everything else though
Are you going into the save menu and saving it? I think you only have to do that if you put an SD card in and want to save it to the card? Otherwise it just saves automatically. Have you tried just putting in your settings backing out to the main menu and then turning it off and back on and see if it sticks?

Oh never mind I just re-read your post that it saved everything else. Maybe try updating or re-flashing the firmware?

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So, I had a heck of a time getting my brakes set up on my Rebel HOT, and now I think I know why - the left brake went completely dead at the field on maiden day.
I know this is of topic, but has anyone had a brake go completely dead? I checked ohms of both brakes and both are at 10ish ohms. I checked voltage at the fuselage connection and get battery voltage at 100% brake power. I then connected the brakes and probed the wires right at the brake and only got 4.2 volts at 100% brake power. I'm assuming this is because of the resistance in the coil of wires. I didn't compare the good brake, but I assume it would probably be the same. Guess I'll have to check and guess I'll have to order a couple more brakes.
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Originally Posted by camss69
Are you going into the save menu and saving it? I think you only have to do that if you put an SD card in and want to save it to the card? Otherwise it just saves automatically. Have you tried just putting in your settings backing out to the main menu and then turning it off and back on and see if it sticks?

Oh never mind I just re-read your post that it saved everything else. Maybe try updating or re-flashing the firmware?
Yeah, it wouldnt matter if I saved it because as soon as I exit out of the sequencer menu it resets
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Ended up adjusting the delay on step 1 to solve the gear down too soon issue
Old 12-29-2019, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Desertlakesflying
Ended up adjusting the delay on step 1 to solve the gear down too soon issue
what did you do to get it to save your settings?
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Originally Posted by Tip22v
what did you do to get it to save your settings?
It saved that one. Would not save on step 8 at all


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