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Old 10-13-2021, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Halcyon66
Bought one in NOV 2020 then sold the POS at a huge loss, as more na more are doing

43 yrs in RC and what at a waist of $$$.

Why not ask Dave how many he has actually sold since the beginning, talks the POS up yet maybe time to come clean on how many he has actually sold.

Maybe he will tell the forum, that is if Richard lets him.

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Dave Wilshere has nothing to prove to anyone regarding his experience, integrity and service in and to this hobby - least of all to you. You're asking Dave to prove his statements - how about you provide evidence to support you statement that "more and more people are taking a loss on Core". I have no problem with the fact that you don't like Powerbox products. I do have a problem with your continued, and completely unjustified attacks on what, by any measure, is an exemplary company doing its best to meet it's customers needs. As I've said before, we know what you think - we don't need you to repeat it ad nauseum.
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Old 10-14-2021, 12:01 AM
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Where Waldo, sorry I mean Dave?

5 people so far have dumped the Core in Aust out of probably ~10 sold here, I only have 5 degrees mainly in math's and that is like 50% yes? Or maybe I am getting old and had a few too many Vodka's.

The current Australian distributor has more than a few and they are going nowhere after the Atom screw over.. Anyone what to buy them?

How many Cores have been sold in the UK, pretty simple question. Aren't they the fastest selling high end TX in the world?

Anyone going to answer? So far it look like the two of you were from the 5 at the UK Core monthly meeting, when are the other 3 going to chine in?

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Old 10-14-2021, 12:49 AM
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.....hmm - if that's the quality of your Maths degree I'd ask for my money back. Try 5 as a percentage of total number sold in the world - although I guess the result of that sum wouldn't help your case would it.
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Once again how many sold in the UK?

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Once again how many sold in the UK?

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Old 10-14-2021, 04:11 AM
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You made a potentially damaging claim that could impact a commercial company. Provide the data or withdraw the remark - you choose. If the best you can do is ask other people to provide the data for you then go do the research first and if the data supports it - make the claim. Have you learned nothing from you five degrees - mainly math?
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Please all stop..... let's just discuss the Core and it's features and programming please. No one is going to change anyone else's mind here and it is just hateful and a waste of time. Life is too short.
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Originally Posted by AEROSHELDON
Please all stop..... let's just discuss the Core and it's features and programming please. No one is going to change anyone else's mind here and it is just hateful and a waste of time. Life is too short.
This!

I dont moderate threads where I participate in but I can get this cleaned up pretty quickly if I need to summon someone so stop now before someone ends up on vacation for a while
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Old 10-15-2021, 12:28 AM
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DUCMOZ , keep it on track and not personal. It was Dave Wilshire who used a Ferrari analogy first so pull him up. It isn't an argument - just a comparison between the 2 transmitters that for all intents are VERY similar at a vastly different price point.

Dave Wilshere I get you have a lot of mates here - cool. I have simply asked a question / put an opinion re the ATOM and its place. This forum is surely ok for me to ask that without your minions coming in from all sides? My points are correct and I am simply asking why? Someone like you with an interest (you sell them) has certainly a valid input but it is also biased. Would have been cool at the shop when 5/6 people were Core owners (Question, did they perform an intervention and convert him?)

Your Ferrari analogy makes no sense - we are not adding accessories.

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@BarracudaHockey - summon whoever you want. We talking' Candyman style? This 'Forum" will then just be like the PB one where anything not to your liking will be censored as Richard does being the owner, seller, MD, marketer and forum moderator for PowerBox.

Was a simple comparison of features, accurate (From Richard & PB) with a simple question - wonder why you all get so upset.....There will be people looking here thinking about a Core who do not know about the Atom - might be good info for them?
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Lets make something clear, if something gets removed it will be from violating forum rules, not because I like it or not. Bashing, harassment, personal attacks etc.
Old 10-16-2021, 02:35 AM
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I truly don't understand why the Atom vs Core is a hot topic for anyone.
I had a jeti DS-24 and you could make the same argument on price vs features when compared with his siblings.

It how marketing works.. you pick your preferences on both features and price. No one ever convinced anyone that their preferences don't make sense on the question of perceived value.
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Old 10-17-2021, 04:30 PM
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The Atom is downgraded version of the Core in much lower price.Someone that paid for the Core with high price may disappointed and want more differences between them.
Actually,I just only use the Core functions like the Atom.Maybe I should sell the Core and order the Atom instead.

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Old 10-17-2021, 06:08 PM
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to be or not be that's the question
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Great news the Core frozen screen thingy "should be" fixed shortly only been 5 months

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The Atom is downgraded version of the Core in much lower price.Someone that paid for the Core with high price may disappointed and want more differences between them.
Actually,I just use the Core fuctions like the Atom.Maybe I should sell The Core and order the Atom instead.
This is my point - in my opinion they are very close in spec but big 900EUR price difference.

I thought 3 years ago there was only to be one transmitter - with updates etc to make it better but now this comes along and changes for a lot or Core owners.
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Strangely quiet here - After nearly 2 years now and many times directly from the horses mouth - small receivers are still not available. Many requests and many times told “12 weeks” Feb 2020. They gave dimensions / specs and even weight in Jul 2020. Then other things keep coming up. So just wait I suppose and hang in there?



Then the “Core lockup” saga…either from switching models, doing trainer with another tx and more..A LOT of them on the PB forum, many get 'quietened' somehow after a PM from above.


These go back before June 2021 .


June 13th told there was a ‘bugfix’ for the lockup coming, then October 17th says “Houston, we found the problem, we can release it next week” So 1 November - is a week longer there? Seems to be and would explain why everything takes 5-10 times longer than originally stated.



And so as a great idea they release a new transmitter when the first one still has fairly major issues? Initially were we told the Core was the “Only” transmitter they would make? Now spreading themselves even further.



The locals on the PB forum have all these amusing sayings - I have one too. You should learn to walk before you run. Releasing a new transmitter when the workload is obviously too high is a bad idea and will only make things worse - In my opinion and time will tell. We will see Feb 2022 when the Atom is released.



So much apologising for them, the issues, delays from members on forums for what? What stake do they have to be so loyal and defend endlessly?



Lastly, posts removed by Richard all the time, deletes a post of mine (And many others) because it is not to their liking - not untrue, not rude - just no ok to them so delete and often close/end the thread. When a fairly clear question asked the other day the reply from PB was to purchase something - something the OP clearly said he didn't want to do, just swap. When clarified The PB rep's laughable response says for him to answer - then he did. Doesn't want to buy one!

PB rep says "The Jeti forum does it all the time" please show me where this happens PB rep.

18-24 months ago there were a lot of videos - mainly from people that got PB stuff as part of a sponsorship (Read freebies / cheap) so their story is obviously biased. Have a look now. No videos, no "how to' videos nothing. Gone so quiet. Google any other brand, look on YouTube and there are many recent videos with questions, builds, walk throughs but for the Core - silence. Why?
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Old 11-01-2021, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by miksterr
18-24 months ago there were a lot of videos - mainly from people that got PB stuff as part of a sponsorship (Read freebies / cheap) so their story is obviously biased. Have a look now. No videos, no "how to' videos nothing. Gone so quiet. Google any other brand, look on YouTube and there are many recent videos with questions, builds, walk throughs but for the Core - silence. Why?
Easiest answer to this is that the radio is significantly easier to use and program than it's closest competitors. It's not even comparable to programming other radios, which is why it's such an appealing piece of tech to me.
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Originally Posted by miksterr
Strangely quiet here -
Im happy with my Core. It works and trust the RF much more than my prior radio (Jeti DS-24).. Why should I post anything to satisfy you?
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Old 11-01-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Edgar Perez
Im happy with my Core. It works and trust the RF much more than my prior radio (Jeti DS-24).. Why should I post anything to satisfy you?
What he said...
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Originally Posted by Halcyon66


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Andy, what does it take to get this conehead banned. He obviously has nothing pertinent to contribute??????
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Wow, didn't you abuse all the posters on the 10sx 2 thread a few days ago when some one asked about a repair? Or is it that you just don't like lemons, should I have used a banana?

JR 10 SX 2 Service

Miksterr has made very valid comments and he was one of the very early users, or is he wrong? As per a conversation on the weekend with a mate in the US, it will not be until an issue which causes an insurance claim that "real concerns" regarding the Core will surface. PB is NOT even addressing the frozen screen issue any more.

Insurance companies always look for ways to fight claims and will only have to look at the PB forum and see the laundry list of issues over how many years and that will probably give them enough ammo to opt out of paying any claims. PB just replies with send it back, we will send you a new part, send it to your local dealer, we are working on it.

More so, most Core owners signed away any potential liability for PB when they signed their rights away on the order form. Any other TX sellers have that disclaimer?

So maybe the Core could end up costing you far more $$ than you really think.

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Originally Posted by Zeeb
Andy, what does it take to get this conehead banned. He obviously has nothing pertinent to contribute??????
Sometimes, neither do you!
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How about a post to the thread that might actually be helpful to me (and maybe others ) , instead of useless childish rants and bickering ?

I am moving to Core from a 12X, and need to know what is the suggested orientation and placement of the antennas on the PB receivers-
With two 26Ds for example, are the longer leads from the Rx critical, or is it just the tips of the leads themselves ? I know with the 12X there are minimum distances required between 2 antennas-is this also true for PB ?
A picture is worth 1000 words as they say, so feel free to share pics of a proper setup if possible. Apologies if this has already been covered, but I did not see it.
And a huge 'Thank You" to everyone that has contributed useful information to this thread-it has helped me learn lots so far.
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Originally Posted by IFLYBVM2
How about a post to the thread that might actually be helpful to me (and maybe others ) , instead of useless childish rants and bickering ?

I am moving to Core from a 12X, and need to know what is the suggested orientation and placement of the antennas on the PB receivers-
With two 26Ds for example, are the longer leads from the Rx critical, or is it just the tips of the leads themselves ? I know with the 12X there are minimum distances required between 2 antennas-is this also true for PB ?
A picture is worth 1000 words as they say, so feel free to share pics of a proper setup if possible. Apologies if this has already been covered, but I did not see it.
And a huge 'Thank You" to everyone that has contributed useful information to this thread-it has helped me learn lots so far.
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Hey Mike

The tips are the actual antennas. So for example in my Rebel, I have one 26D in the nose and one back behind the radio compartment. Both are mounted vertically on the side of the fuselage, on opposite sides. For the antenna's I tape them one straight out and one bending 90 degrees down on the front, and the back is one straight out and one 90 degrees up. I always have single digit frame losses or 0 after a flight.


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